Pool C

[Just Bill]

Good work Ralph!  As you may remember, I usually do the regional rankings by conference and "conference leaders" list.  I've been busy lately and it doesn't help that the prego wife needs my services more than usual! LOL.  Thanks.  If I get to it, I might do it after this week's rankings on Wednesday.  Good job!

It would appear she's already received your services.

[Ralph Turner]

Good work Ralph!  As you may remember, I usually do the regional rankings by conference and "conference leaders" list.  I've been busy lately and it doesn't help that the prego wife needs my services more than usual! LOL.  Thanks.  If I get to it, I might do it after this week's rankings on Wednesday.  Good job!

It would appear she's already received your services.

Old school is such a stud!   

[Greek Tragedy]

You guys kill me! LOL

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Week 3 Regional Rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/16/ncaa-2011-regional-rankings-week-3/

[deiscanton]

In the MBB: University Athletic Association page, I have posted the chances of the UAA getting a Pool C bid.  Based on the current regional rankings today, I have changed my outlook of the UAA picture to "1 Pool C bid possible for the UAA, but not definite."

Emory's #5 in South ranking raises the possibilty of getting 2 UAA men's teams in the tournament-- with the chances being best if both Emory and Rochester end up as UAA Co-Champions.

Detailed analysis of the UAA picture is on the MBB: University Athletic Association page.  Please read my post there and give your comments.

Tournament resumes of UAA teams realistically in hunt for NCAAs:

(As you can see, I believe that Brandeis, at #10 in the Northeast, is too far down the regional rankings at this point to get a Pool C bid.)

Rochester-- #2 in East-- UAA Pool A Leader

In-region record of 17-3 (.850), SOS of .487, 4-1 vs regionally ranked opponents (1-0 vs Emory (#5 in South-- UAA), 2-0 vs Brandeis (#10 in Northeast-- UAA), and 1-1 split vs Hobart (#5 in East).

Emory-- #5 in South-- Pool C candidate

In-region record of 17-4 (.810), SOS of .441, 1-2 vs regionally ranked opponents (1-1 vs Brandeis (#10 in Northeast-- UAA), 0-1 vs Rochester (#2 in East-- UAA)).

[Ralph Turner]

In the MBB: University Athletic Association page, I have posted the chances of the UAA getting a Pool C bid.  Based on the current regional rankings today, I have changed my outlook of the UAA picture to "1 Pool C bid possible for the UAA, but not definite."

Emory's #5 in South ranking raises the possibilty of getting 2 UAA men's teams in the tournament-- with the chances being best if both Emory and Rochester end up as UAA Co-Champions.

Detailed analysis of the UAA picture is on the MBB: University Athletic Association page.  Please read my post there and give your comments.

Tournament resumes of UAA teams realistically in hunt for NCAAs:

(As you can see, I believe that Brandeis, at #10 in the Northeast, is too far down the regional rankings at this point to get a Pool C bid.)

Rochester-- #2 in East-- UAA Pool A Leader

In-region record of 17-3 (.850), SOS of .487, 4-1 vs regionally ranked opponents (1-0 vs Emory (#5 in South-- UAA), 2-0 vs Brandeis (#10 in Northeast-- UAA), and 1-1 split vs Hobart (#5 in East).

Emory-- #5 in South-- Pool C candidate

In-region record of 17-4 (.810), SOS of .441, 1-2 vs regionally ranked opponents (1-1 vs Brandeis (#10 in Northeast-- UAA, 0-1 vs Rochester (#2 in East-- UAA).

Deis, what is the tie-breaking procedure for the UAA in the event of a tie between Rochester and Emory at 12-2?

If they are co-champs, then I think that Rochester is a Pool C lock out of the East Region.

[deiscanton]

It depends on where Brandeis and Chicago finish in the UAA standings.

See my post in the MBB: University Athletic Association forum-- Reply #3042-- where I review the UAA tiebreaker procedures.

Tiebreaker #1-- the head-to-head between the co-champions will not break the deadlock.  Neither will Tiebreaker #3-- Best UAA road record among the co-champions, as Rochester and Emory will have each gone 5-2 in UAA road play.

Tiebreaker #2 is results between the co-champions and the subsequent finishers in the UAA standings until the deadlock is broken.

Wash U cannot break the tie as both Rochester and Emory swept Wash U.  Rochester and Emory would also have swept all of the other teams save for Brandeis and Chicago.

To summarize

(1)  If Brandeis finishes ahead of Chicago in the UAA standings, then Rochester wins the tiebreaker due to the fact that Rochester swept Brandeis while Emory split with Brandeis.

(2)  If Chicago finishes ahead of Brandeis in the UAA standings, then Emory wins the tiebreaker due to the fact that Emory swept Chicago while Rochester split with Chicago.

(3)  If both Brandeis and Chicago remain in a tie for any position in the UAA standings, the automatic bid will be decided by a coin flip, as both Emory and Rochester will have gone 3-1 vs Brandeis and Chicago, and tiebreaker #2 will not settle the deadlock.

(4)  The coin flip is the final tiebreaker-- Tiebreaker #4.

[Ralph Turner]

As usual, and excellent informative post.

I think that UT-Dallas is vulnerable in the ASC tourney.  Their losses came at McMurry (who has had much success against UT-D in the last few years), at UMHB, and at Mississippi College.  They also only had a 4 point road win over HSU.  The Mississippi College game Monday in Dallas was won when MIssissippi College tied with 5 seconds left.  Then MC stole the full court in-bound pass attempt, but the player called a timeout that Mississippi College did not have.  UTD sank both technicals and won by 2.  (The Mississippi College "Hail Mary" was no good.)

UTD is not that much of home court advantage because of how many alumni from other colleges live in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex as opposed to Clinton MS (Mississippi College) or Marshall TX (East Texas Baptist). Mississippi College is on the verge of not making the ASC tourney for the first time ever!

[KnightSlappy]

I'm probably a bit premature on this, but this is my list of "don't even show up to your conference tournament 'cuz you're alreay in" list of cold-hard-lead-pipe locks. I'll revise in the coming days if I feel one of them wasn't cold, hard, or lead enough.

Northeast:
Williams
Middlebury
WPI
Becker
Amherst

East:
Oswego State

Atlantic:
Ramapo

Mid-Atlantic:
La Roche

South:
Virginia Wesleyan
Randolph-Macon

Great Lakes:
Wooster
Hope

Midwest:
Augustana
Concordia (Wi.)

West:
Chapman
Whitworth
St. Thomas
UW-Stevens Point
UW-River Falls

[Ralph Turner]

Thanks, there are the first 18 Pool C bids that need to be Pool A bids.

[KnightSlappy]

Thanks, there are the first 18 Pool C bids that need to be Pool A bids.

(plus Chapman's Pool B)

Three are from the NESCAC, so there probably won't be an "upset" there. And either ODAC or WIAC listed could win without being considered an upset.

If your team is on the bubble, these are the teams to root for this week.

[Ralph Turner]

Thanks, there are the first 18 Pool C bids that need to be Pool A bids.

And duhhhh,

There are only 18 Pool C bids to give.

[KnightSlappy]

I'm taking River Falls off the list. Just got the update that they lost today.

[deiscanton]

As a result of the Rochester win over Case today combined with Emory's loss to Carnegie Mellon, Rochester has clinched the UAA Men's Title and the automatic bid to the NCAAs.

Emory will need a Pool C bid to make it to the NCAAs.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

KnightSlappy - I wouldn't put anyone in the Atlantic on any type of "lock" for the NCAA tourney... including Ramapo.