Pool C

carletonsid · February 21, 2011, 09:42:26 PM

Quote from: Old School-Greek Tragedy on February 21, 2011, 07:28:56 PM
Just curious who has hosting rights this year in the first round. I know it rotates each year. Is it the men? Then the women would have hosting rights the 2nd weekend. Or is it the women 1st round this year?

Edit: women have rights for the 1st round this year.

Does this mean UW-SP can't host this year?

Pat Coleman · February 21, 2011, 09:45:19 PM

If the UWSP women are selected to host, yes. (The fact that they play in separate gyms has been said in the past to not be a factor.)

89Pirate · February 21, 2011, 10:39:43 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2011, 09:45:19 PM
If the UWSP women are selected to host, yes. (The fact that they play in separate gyms has been said in the past to not be a factor.)

So, if the UWSP Women are still in at round 3/4, Whitworth could that round - knowing they will still be in it?!?!

Pat Coleman · February 21, 2011, 10:41:44 PM

It reverses in round 3/4. Men have hosting priority if both teams are in line to host.

In even years it's the reverse.

89Pirate · February 21, 2011, 10:44:02 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2011, 10:41:44 PM
It reverses in round 3/4. Men have hosting priority if both teams are in line to host.

In even years it's the reverse.

LOL - did that answer my question?

Pat Coleman · February 21, 2011, 11:19:30 PM

Yes. And not in your favor.

If the UW-SP women are still in the tournament in round 3/4 of 2011 (or any odd year) they could not be chosen to host over the UWSP men. The men would have priority if both are in line to host.

89Pirate · February 22, 2011, 12:20:45 AM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2011, 11:19:30 PM
Yes. And not in your favor.

If the UW-SP women are still in the tournament in round 3/4 of 2011 (or any odd year) they could not be chosen to host over the UWSP men. The men would have priority if both are in line to host.

Ok, so really, i just need UWSP to lose and Whitworth to win to keep hosting...

Greek Tragedy · February 22, 2011, 01:09:49 AM

Hey 89pirate! I don't want to hear that kind of talk from you!

You do have to worry about St. Thomas as well. They are ranked higher than Point in the region. I would think if Point and St. Thomas get Pool C bids and win their first weekend games and Whitworth gets an AQ and wins, that would give them the upper hand going into the next weekend. Lots of games to be played. First thing is first!

ziggy · February 22, 2011, 09:10:39 AM

Quote from: Old School-Greek Tragedy on February 22, 2011, 01:09:49 AM
Hey 89pirate! I don't want to hear that kind of talk from you!

You do have to worry about St. Thomas as well. They are ranked higher than Point in the region. I would think if Point and St. Thomas get Pool C bids and win their first weekend games and Whitworth gets an AQ and wins, that would give them the upper hand going into the next weekend. Lots of games to be played. First thing is first!

There could be hosting competition from Augustana as well. It all comes down to how the NCAA aligns the brackets.
Whitworth is a guaranteed flight no matter what so they would be very easy to send away from the West/Midwest. The sectional that Whitworth was in last year was a quasi Great Lakes/South bracket.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · February 22, 2011, 10:36:03 AM

I wouldn't say Whitworth is gaurunteed a flight unless you are talking about Salem.

Whitworth could be like Puget Sound a few years back and host in the Sectionals. Granted, I believe, if memory serves, Puget Sound benefited from the fact that both Stevens Point teams where in the sectionals and it was the women's year to host.

With Whitworth being the #1 regionally ranked team (and that won't change this week)... there is a decent chance the committee may give them the chance to host the Sectionals.

That being said, it does depend on the ENTIRE bracket... how many flights the committee is allowed to book (expect)... and if those flights would be used in other parts of the bracket (like in the South Region - VWC could be hosting and like a few years back, UMHB was flown out to Virginia Beach for the Sectionals).

Personally... I think Whitworth deserves to host, only because all of the rest of the teams in the West and Midwest seem to get that opportunity due to bracket restrictions. If the committee can reward Whitworth with hosting since their resume puts them #1 in the region - I am all for having three teams shipped to the Northwest.

Ah... but we won't get an inkling until February 28th... and we won't know until March 7th!

Pat Coleman · February 22, 2011, 10:43:51 AM

Well, a guaranteed flight for Whitworth or three flights for their opponents. There's a guaranteed flight involved with them playing.

ziggy · February 22, 2011, 10:45:52 AM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 22, 2011, 10:36:03 AM
I wouldn't say Whitworth is gaurunteed a flight unless you are talking about Salem.

Whitworth could be like Puget Sound a few years back and host in the Sectionals. Granted, I believe, if memory serves, Puget Sound benefited from the fact that both Stevens Point teams where in the sectionals and it was the women's year to host.

With Whitworth being the #1 regionally ranked team (and that won't change this week)... there is a decent chance the committee may give them the chance to host the Sectionals.

That being said, it does depend on the ENTIRE bracket... how many flights the committee is allowed to book (expect)... and if those flights would be used in other parts of the bracket (like in the South Region - VWC could be hosting and like a few years back, UMHB was flown out to Virginia Beach for the Sectionals).

Personally... I think Whitworth deserves to host, only because all of the rest of the teams in the West and Midwest seem to get that opportunity due to bracket restrictions. If the committee can reward Whitworth with hosting since their resume puts them #1 in the region - I am all for having three teams shipped to the Northwest.

Ah... but we won't get an inkling until February 28th... and we won't know until March 7th!

in or out, a flight is a flight. Whitworth hosting a sectional means three teams are flying in, going to a sectional means one flight out.

We know that the NCAA only allows a certain number of flights so it depends on what that number is.

Just Bill · February 22, 2011, 10:52:39 AM

We all know the NCAA works to MINIMIZE flights, but is there any eveidence that they have an actual magic number that they won't exceed? I've heard rumors of that on this board, but I've never actual seen that in print or spoken by any NCAA representative. If someone has proof of a magic number of flights, please post.

ziggy · February 22, 2011, 10:54:53 AM

Quote from: Just Bill on February 22, 2011, 10:52:39 AM
We all know the NCAA works to MINIMIZE flights, but is there any eveidence that they have an actual magic number that they won't exceed? I've heard rumors of that on this board, but I've never actual seen that in print or spoken by any NCAA representative. If someone has proof of a magic number of flights, please post.

It was stated in the hoopsville interview. The number was not revealed but its existence was acknowledged.

KnightSlappy · February 22, 2011, 11:00:02 AM

Quote from: ziggy on February 22, 2011, 10:54:53 AM
Quote from: Just Bill on February 22, 2011, 10:52:39 AM
We all know the NCAA works to MINIMIZE flights, but is there any eveidence that they have an actual magic number that they won't exceed? I've heard rumors of that on this board, but I've never actual seen that in print or spoken by any NCAA representative. If someone has proof of a magic number of flights, please post.

It was stated in the hoopsville interview. The number was not revealed but its existence was acknowledged.

Yeah, Dave Martin, committee chair, said that the NCAA gives them a number each year. They are strictly told not to exceed the limit.