Pool C

[deiscanton]

Thanks deiscanton.  I know they don't have a post season tourney, but I was in tourney mode and didn't even think about putting Brandeis and Emory in green.  I'll correct that.  Good catch!

Thanks, Old School   +1

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Honestly, if you were putting together a "tournament resume" i'd much rather have Kean's than Ramapo's.  Kean beat Alvernia, Desales and Ramapo, where Ramapo hasnt beaten anyone.  

I wont be surprised by anything out of the CSAC.  I think Cabrini is safe even with a loss.  They are 4-0 vs GMC/Keystone.  But GMC's only significant wins of season are over Keystone (winning the rubber match).  Keystone at least defeated Oswego, albeit early in season.  Part of me thinks, especially if upsets start happening all over the place, that GM is not safe w/o a Pool A qualification.

Yet Kean has a far worse in-region record than Ramapo and the Roadrunners have played UW-Stevens Point if it went to secondary criteria.

As for the CSAS, KnightSlappy alluded to it... if there are any upsets (i.e. EMU wins the ODAC, Augustana, Wooster, Whitworth, Owsego St., Becker, etc. lose) the CSAC will fall further and further down. That is why I think two teams is not a gauruntee at this point. Thus, ziggy, my point that some conferences like the NESCAC are going to take plenty of bids (i.e. 3 NESCAC, maybe 3 ODAC). It doesn't leave a lot of bids left.

[LustyLarryintheToilet]

Honestly, if you were putting together a "tournament resume" i'd much rather have Kean's than Ramapo's.  Kean beat Alvernia, Desales and Ramapo, where Ramapo hasnt beaten anyone.  

I wont be surprised by anything out of the CSAC.  I think Cabrini is safe even with a loss.  They are 4-0 vs GMC/Keystone.  But GMC's only significant wins of season are over Keystone (winning the rubber match).  Keystone at least defeated Oswego, albeit early in season.  Part of me thinks, especially if upsets start happening all over the place, that GM is not safe w/o a Pool A qualification.

Yet Kean has a far worse in-region record than Ramapo and the Roadrunners have played UW-Stevens Point if it went to secondary criteria.

As for the CSAS, KnightSlappy alluded to it... if there are any upsets (i.e. EMU wins the ODAC, Augustana, Wooster, Whitworth, Owsego St., Becker, etc. lose) the CSAC will fall further and further down. That is why I think two teams is not a gauruntee at this point. Thus, ziggy, my point that some conferences like the NESCAC are going to take plenty of bids (i.e. 3 NESCAC, maybe 3 ODAC). It doesn't leave a lot of bids left.

i wouldnt call a 2game diference far worse (17-6 vs 19-4).  give me qualty wins any day over an inflated record.

[KnightSlappy]

Pac Lutheran is not making Pool C fans very happy right now. They lead Whitworth 32-28 at the half.

[nwhoops1903]

I will let the pool C board know when Pirates take a decent lead. Sitting courtside so I will try and make it quick. Now tied 32-32.

[nwhoops1903]

Pirates up 8, 2 minutes to go.

[Ralph Turner]

Whitman holds seed, 79-76 over L&C in the NWC Semis.

Good news for all.  The West looks like it has gone accordingly and without surprises.

The top 7 are playing for 3 Pool A bids, 1 Pool B bid and 3 Pool C bids.

[Greek Tragedy]

Just bringing this forward.  Should be able to update after tonights games. 


BOLD is conference leader meaning they get a Pool A bid
GREEN is Pool C candidate meaning they cannot get a Pool A bid


Atlantic Region
1 Ramapo 19-3 20-5 (NJAC):  LOST to Montclair State 67-64 in semis  
2 SUNY-Purchase 21-4 21-4 (SKY):  BEAT Old Westbury 85-74 in semis; plays St. Joseph's (L.I.) in final 2/26
3 Kean 17-5 18-7 (NJAC):  LOST to NJCU 75-61 in semis
4 St. Joseph's (L.I.) 18-5 20-5 (SKY):  BEAT Mount Saint Vincent 68-60, BEAT Mount Saint Mary 78-75 OT in semis; plays SUNY-Purchase in final 2/26
5 Mount Saint Mary 18-7 18-7 (SKY):  LOST to St. Joseph's (L.I.) 78-75 OT in semis



East Region
1 Oswego State 22-3 22-3 (SUNYAC):   BEAT Potsdam State 64-50 in quarterfinals, plays Brockport State in semis 2/25  
2 Ithaca 19-5 20-5  (E8):  Plays St. John Fisher in semis 2/25
3 Rochester 19-3 20-4 (UAA):  Plays Emory 2/26
4 Stevens 19-6 19-6 (E8):  Plays Hartwick in semis 2/25
5 Hobart 19-5 19-6 (LL):  Plays Hamilton in semis 2/25
6 Buffalo State 15-6 18-6 (SUNYAC):  BEAT Cortland State 75-56 in quarterfinals, plays Plattsburgh State in semis 2/25

Great Lakes Region
1 Wooster 20-2 23-2 (NCAC):   BEAT Allegheny 62-57 in quarterfinals, plays Ohio Wesleyan in semis 2/25
2 Marietta 19-3 22-3 (OAC):  BEAT Wilmington 84-73 in quarterfinals, BEAT Heidelberg 70-55 in semis; plays John Carroll in final 2/26
3 Penn State-Behrend 22-2 22-3 (AMCC):  Plays Medaille in semis 2/25
4 Hope 15-2 19-6 (MIAA):  BEAT Alma 110-77 in quarterfinals, plays Adrian in semis 2/25
5 Thiel 15-3 18-6 (PrAC): BEAT Waynesburg 73-63 in quarterfinals, BEAT Thomas More 78-65 in semis; plays Bethany in final 2/26
6 Wabash 18-5 19-5 (NCAC):  BEAT Kenyon 72-61 in quarterfinals, plays Wittenberg in semis 2/25


Middle Atlantic Region
1 La Roche 22-2 23-2 (AMCC):  Plays Hilbert in semis 2/25
2 St. Mary's (Md.) 18-3 20-5 (CAC):   BEAT Mary Washington 79-57 in semis; plays Wesley in final 2/26
3 Cabrini 20-5 20-5 (CSAC):  BEAT Neumann 79-76 in semis, plays Gwynedd-Mercy in final 2/25
4 Gwynedd-Mercy 19-4 20-5 (CSAC):  BEAT Keystone 85-65 in semis, plays Cabrini in final 2/25
5 Keystone 21-5 21-5 (CSAC):  LOST to Gwynedd-Mercy 85-65 in semis
6 Lebanon Valley 17-6 19-6 (MACC):  BEAT Widener 58-56 in semis, plays Alvernia in final 2/26
7 Franklin and Marshall 18-5 20-5:  (CC):  Plays Haverford in semis 2/26
8 DeSales 16-7 18-7 (MACF): BEAT Misericordia 78-69 in semis, plays Delaware Valley in final 2/26
9 Wesley 15-5 16-9 (CAC):   BEAT Salisbury 75-74 in semis; plays St. Mary's (Md.) in final 2/26


Midwest Region
1 Concordia (Wis.) 20-2 22-3 (NATH):   Plays Edgewood in semis 2/25
2 Augustana 21-2 22-2 (CCIW):  Plays Wheaton in semis 2/25
3 Manchester 18-5 19-6 (HCAC):  Plays winner of Rose-Hulman/Transylvania in semis 2/26  
4 Hanover 18-6 18-6 (HCAC):  Plays winner of Anderson/Bluffton in semis 2/26
5 Anderson 15-7 17-8 (HCAC):  Plays Bluffton in quarterfinals 2/25
6 Milwaukee Engineering 18-6 19-6 (NATH):  LOST to Aurora 72-67 in quarterfinals
7 Benedictine 17-6 18-7 (NATH):  BEAT Rockford 91-76 in quarterfinals, plays Aurora in semis 2/25  
8 St. Norbert 18-5 18-5 (MWC):  Plays Ripon in semis 2/25


Northeast Region
1 Williams 21-1 23-1 (NESCAC):  Plays Trinity (Conn.) in semis 2/26
2 Middlebury 20-1 23-1 (NESCAC):  Plays Amherst in semis 2/26
3 WPI 21-3 21-4 (NEWMAC):  Plays Coast Guard in semis 2/26
4 Becker 22-3 22-3 (NECC):  Plays Newbury in semis 2/25  
5 Amherst 21-2 22-2 (NESCAC):  Plays Middlebury in semis 2/26
6 Western Connecticut State 20-4 21-4 (LEC):  Plays Eastern Connecticut State in semis 2/25
7 Rhode Island College 17-7 17-7 (LEC):  Plays Keene State in semis 2/25
8 Elms 16-6 18-7 (NECC):  Plays Southern Vermont in semis 2/25
9 Eastern Connecticut State 15-7 17-8 (LEC):  Plays Western Connecticut State in semis 2/25  
10 Brandeis 16-8 16-8 (UAA):  Plays at NYU 2/26
11 Roger Williams 17-8 17-8 (CCC):  LOST to Endicott 71-68 in CCC quarterfinals


South Region
1 Virginia Wesleyan 20-3 22-3 (ODAC):   Plays Washington and Lee in quarterfinals 2/25
2 Randolph-Macon 20-4 21-4 (ODAC):  Plays Roanoke in quarterfinals 2/25
3 Texas-Dallas 19-4 20-5 (ASC):  Plays Concordia (Texas) in quarterfinals 2/25
4 Ferrum 18-4 21-4 (USAC):  Plays Christopher Newport 2/25
5 Eastern Mennonite 15-4 21-4 (ODAC):  Plays Hampden-Sydney in quarterfinals 2/25
6 North Carolina Wesleyan 14-4 19-6 (USAC):  Plays Greensboro in semis 2/25
7 Mary Hardin-Baylor 19-6 19-6 (ASC): Plays Texas-Tyler in quarterfinals 2/25  
8 Emory 18-5 19-5 (UAA):  Plays Rochester 2/25


West Region
1 Whitworth 24-1 24-1 (NWC):   BEAT Pacific Lutheran 74-63 in semis; plays Whitman in final 2/26
2 St. Thomas 21-3 22-3 (MIAC):  Plays Hamline in semis 2/25
3 UW-Stevens Point 21-3 22-3 (WIAC):   BEAT Superior 84-52 in semis; plays River Falls in final 2/26
4 Chapman 14-1 21-3 (IND):   BEAT La Sierra 61-56, plays Univ. of Dallas 2/25
5 Carleton 18-5 18-7 (MIAC):  Plays Gustavus Adolphus in semis 2/25
6 UW-River Falls 17-5 19-6 (WIAC):  BEAT Platteville 69-60 in semis; plays Stevens Point in final 2/26
7 Whitman 13-5 18-7 (NWC):  BEAT Lewis and Clark 79-76 in semis; plays Whitworth in final 2/26
8 Lewis and Clark 12-5 18-7 (NWC):  LOST to Whitman 79-76 in semis
9 UW-Whitewater 16-8 17-8 (WIAC):  LOST to Superior 78-72 in quarterfinal

[magicman]

Pool C hopefuls have to be happy with the way things have played out so far. Very few upsets to date. Of course that could all change after Friday night.

[Greek Tragedy]

Looks like only Lewis and Clark and Mount Saint Mary's fell into Pool C consideration with losses tonight.  There will be a lot more tomorrow.

[Ralph Turner]

I think that we had 6 upsets in conference play in last year's conference tournaments, so the 6 projected Pool C teams fell off the bubble.

I think that L&C and MtSt Mary's fell off the bubble, but of course, if you are more than 2-3 down the list from each region going into the tourney, as they were, then you must win the tourney!

[KnightSlappy]

The CSAC and NJAC punch tickets tonight.

In the CSAC, I think Cabrini has a really good Pool C shot if they lose. Gwynedd-Mercy would be on the bubble, but I think they can get in too.

The NJAC teams don't have great Pool C resumes. Neither Montclair State nor New Jersey City would gain Pool C consideration if they lost.

[Ralph Turner]

The CSAC and NJAC punch tickets tonight.

In the CSAC, I think Cabrini has a really good Pool C shot if they lose. Gwynedd-Mercy would be on the bubble, but I think they can get in too.

The NJAC teams don't have great Pool C resumes. Neither Montclair State nor New Jersey City would gain Pool C consideration if they lost.

So, do you think that the Mid-Atlantic gets one Pool C bid of the 18 available?

[KnightSlappy]

The CSAC and NJAC punch tickets tonight.

In the CSAC, I think Cabrini has a really good Pool C shot if they lose. Gwynedd-Mercy would be on the bubble, but I think they can get in too.

The NJAC teams don't have great Pool C resumes. Neither Montclair State nor New Jersey City would gain Pool C consideration if they lost.

So, do you think that the Mid-Atlantic gets one Pool C bid of the 18 available?

Depends on what happens with La Roche and St. Mary's (Md.) in their tournaments. Both would be in with a Pool C I suppose.

And I'm still not willing to say that Keystone is out yet either.

[Ralph Turner]

Kinghtslappy, does your blog run the teams by decreasing "power index" so we can get an idea of where these teams are on the final list, and where the final loss will drop them?