Pool C

[7express]

Here's my 18 pool C's (not neccessarly in order):
Virginia Wesleyan
Oswego state
Williams
Amherst
WPI
Wisconsin-River Falls
Ramapo
Becker
Concordia (WI)
Wittenberg
Eastern Mennonite
Ferrum
Western Connecticut
Kean
Penn state-Behrend
Texas-Dallas
Ithaca
Gwynedd-Mercy

Gwynedd-Mercy, Ithaca & Dallas are my last 3 in (in that order)
Wabash and Carleton my last 2 out in that order.


Lets see how many of these I get right, I'll go between 5-10.  What's everyone thoughts??  Would you add another team in, if so who would you replace??

[carletonsid]

Here's my 18 pool C's (not neccessarly in order):
Virginia Wesleyan
Oswego state
Williams
Amherst
WPI
Wisconsin-River Falls
Ramapo
Becker
Concordia (WI)
Wittenberg
Eastern Mennonite
Ferrum
Western Connecticut
Kean
Penn state-Behrend
Texas-Dallas
Ithaca
Gwynedd-Mercy

Gwynedd-Mercy, Ithaca & Dallas are my last 3 in (in that order)
Wabash and Carleton my last 2 out in that order.


Lets see how many of these I get right, I'll go between 5-10.  What's everyone thoughts??  Would you add another team in, if so who would you replace??

Not so sure on Witt, Eastern Mennonite or Ferrum. None of those have the SOS or wins over regionally-ranked foes that Carleton, Wabash or Hanover possess. I'd even throw Stevens into that mix with those last three.

[Will2Win]

Do you guys think Eastern Mennonite's luck is up this year or have they done just enough to sneak in the field of 61??

[Pat Coleman]

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/d3-bracketology.html

This is the KnightSlappy projection.

[David Collinge]

Not so sure on Witt, Eastern Mennonite or Ferrum. None of those have the SOS or wins over regionally-ranked foes that Carleton, Wabash or Hanover possess. I'd even throw Stevens into that mix with those last three.

Witt has wins over Wooster, Wabash (2x), and Kean, just off the top of my head.  Those wins over Wabash surely put the Tigers ahead of the Little Giants on the final GL rankings.  Also I believe Witt has a better SOS than Wabash, although as I don't follow these things closely, I could be wrong.

[KnightSlappy]

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/d3-bracketology.html

This is the KnightSlappy projection.

Thiel, Ferrum, St. Joseph (L.I.), Wabash, and Eastern Mennonite could all sneak in. I have them as out, but if you're a fan of these teams, you better be watching the selection show.

Any of Hanover, Wittenberg, Texas-Dallas, Keystone could get pushed out.

These are really the last nine for the final four spots. It gets kinda tough in there.

[carletonsid]

Not so sure on Witt, Eastern Mennonite or Ferrum. None of those have the SOS or wins over regionally-ranked foes that Carleton, Wabash or Hanover possess. I'd even throw Stevens into that mix with those last three.

Witt has wins over Wooster, Wabash (2x), and Kean, just off the top of my head.  Those wins over Wabash surely put the Tigers ahead of the Little Giants on the final GL rankings.  Also I believe Witt has a better SOS than Wabash, although as I don't follow these things closely, I could be wrong.

And I haven't dug into all the head-to-head stuff by team, either. I've just been using the info provided by the NCAA with each week's regional ranking, copying over all that info by team into a spreadsheet and then pulling over teams that I and others feel are Pool C contenders for comparisons sake.

One thing that jumps out at me in terms of Witt and Wabash, and this could change with this week's results, is that Witt didn't appear in last week's regional rankings and Wabash did. So, the committee felt, as of last week, that Wabash stood ahead of Witt.

With that said, Knightslappy has Witt in the field and Wabash out.

[Greek Tragedy]

Once ranked, always ranked...I believe.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Do you guys think Eastern Mennonite's luck is up this year or have they done just enough to sneak in the field of 61??

I don't think they're definitely out, but that last loss was not helpful.

[frodotwo]

My guesses for brackets: (@=host)

WEST
Redlands at Chapman
Winner to Whitworth

Northwestern (MN) at St. Thomas@
UWRF vs Carleton

UWSP Vs Luther
St Norbert at Concordia@

UT-Dallas at Augustana@
McMurry vs Webster

SOUTH
Benedictine vs Manchester
Hanover at Hope@

Centre vs Wittenburg
Marietta at Wooster@

LaRoche vs Bethany
Alvernia at Va Wesleyan@

F&M at RMC@
NC Wesleyan vs St. Mary's

EAST

PS-Behrendt vs Wells
Buffalo St at Rochester@

Husson vs Skidmore
winner to Middlebury@

Hartwick at Oswego State@
Ithaca vs Keystone

Del Valley vs Scranton
Medgar Evers at New Jersey City@

NORTH

Cabrini vs Gwynedd-Mercy
SUNY-Purchase at Ramapo@

RI College vs Elms
Salve Regina at Amherst@

Johnson & Wales vs Bridgewater St
Becker at WPI@

MIT vs W. Conn
winner at Williams@

Just used Knightslappy's projections and proximity for the most part, trying to keep top teams from meeting too early.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Do you guys think Eastern Mennonite's luck is up this year or have they done just enough to sneak in the field of 61??

I don't think they're definitely out, but that last loss was not helpful.

Though I don't understand the sentiment that Ferrum goes in before EMU.  I haven't carefully studied the numbers and criteria, but I DO know that EMU beat Ferrum, as did HSC (whom EMU beat twice).  If the criteria are otherwise reasonably similar (and I believe they are, with perhaps even a slight nod to EMU), I would think h-to-h would carry a great deal of weight.

[HopeConvert]

KnightSlappy's projections have only 5 teams which are effectively west of the Mississippi. I'll defer to others on this, but I can't see how the NCAA will have a sectional in Spokane given what it would take to get three other teams there. It's much easier to send Whitworth packing. How might they handle those 5 teams (two in SoCal, two in TX)?

[Ralph Turner]

My guesses for brackets: (@=host)

WEST
Redlands at Chapman
Winner to Whitworth

Northwestern (MN) at St. Thomas@
UWRF vs Carleton

UWSP Vs Luther
St Norbert at Concordia@

UT-Dallas at Augustana@
McMurry vs Webster

SOUTH
Benedictine vs Manchester
Hanover at Hope@

Centre vs Wittenburg
Marietta at Wooster@

LaRoche vs Bethany
Alvernia at Va Wesleyan@

F&M at RMC@
NC Wesleyan vs St. Mary's

EAST

PS-Behrendt vs Wells
Buffalo St at Rochester@

Husson vs Skidmore
winner to Middlebury@

Hartwick at Oswego State@
Ithaca vs Keystone

Del Valley vs Scranton
Medgar Evers at New Jersey City@

NORTH

Cabrini vs Gwynedd-Mercy
SUNY-Purchase at Ramapo@

RI College vs Elms
Salve Regina at Amherst@

Johnson & Wales vs Bridgewater St
Becker at WPI@

MIT vs W. Conn
winner at Williams@

Just used Knightslappy's projections and proximity for the most part, trying to keep top teams from meeting too early.

I like!  Send us the tickets!  

[Mr. Ypsi]

KnightSlappy's projections have only 5 teams which are effectively west of the Mississippi. I'll defer to others on this, but I can't see how the NCAA will have a sectional in Spokane given what it would take to get three other teams there. It's much easier to send Whitworth packing. How might they handle those 5 teams (two in SoCal, two in TX)?

There are still 3 byes - I'd bet Whitworth gets one, then hosts the winner of Redlands/Chapman.

[seinfeld]

Centre vs Wittenburg
Marietta at Wooster@

There's about a zero chance of this grouping happening. Marietta and Wooster definitely won't face each other in the first round. They are the top two teams in the GL, and both are well clear of Centre and Wittenberg. And Wooster has already played Wittenberg three times this year, including just yesterday. That doesn't mean it can't happen, but it seems pretty unlikely. Teams like Penn St. Behrend, Hanover and Rochester (and definitely Thiel if they happen to get in) probably have a better chance of being paired with Wooster than Wittenberg. Of course you could have LaRoche put in place of Wooster and facing either Centre or Wittenberg, and this would make more sense.

But then again, as a Wooster fan I'm happy they will be hosting.