Pool C

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Just Bill

Ralph is right. A two-division league does not earn two AQs even with 7 teams on each side. The only exception is the MAC Commonwealth and Freedom, but they were grandfathered in, and they essentially act like two independent conferences anyway.
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Titan Q

Quote from: KnightSlappy on December 28, 2011, 09:15:59 AM
Another regional rankings update.

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2011/12/regional-rankings-12282011.html

Thanks again for doing this, KnightSlappy!

I posted the following on the CCIW board a couple days ago.  Same Midwest teams, just different order...


Quote from: Titan Q on December 26, 2011, 10:17:35 AM
This is an update to something I posted about a week ago.  It's my best projection at how the top Midwest Region teams stack up right now, based on NCAA seeding/selection criteria. 

(These are "in-region" records - games vs non-D3s or out-of-region D3s have been excluded.  I also listed wins over other teams on this list and wins vs prominent teams from other regions if the game was counted as "in-region", as well as all in-region losses.)

1. Transylvania (HCAC), 9-0 (won vs Wabash)
2. Augustana (CCIW), 8-1 (won vs UW-Stevens Point...lost @ Wash U)
3. Grinnell (MWC), 7-0 (won vs Ripon)
4. Ripon (MWC), 5-1 (won vs Illinois Wesleyan...lost @ Grinnell)
5. Illinois Wesleyan (CCIW), 7-2 (won vs Wash U...lost @ Ripon, @ UW-Whitewater)
6. Washington U (UAA), 7-2 (won vs Augustana, vs Wheaton...lost @ Whitworth, @ IWU)
7. Wheaton (CCIW), 7-2 (won vs Whitman...lost @ Hope, @ Wash U)
8. Edgewood (NATHC), 7-1 (won vs Lake Forest, @ Lakeland...lost vs UW-Stevens Point)
9. Hanover (HCAC), 6-2 (won vs Ohio Wesleyan, vs Rose-Hulman...lost vs Ohio Northern, @ Manchester)
10. Lake Forest (MWC), 7-1 (won vs Lakeland...lost @ Edgewood)
11. Rose-Hulman (HCAC), 9-2 (none...lost vs Wabash, @ Hanover)
12. Lakeland (NATHC), 4-2 (none...lost @ Lake Forest, vs Edgewood)

(The only Midwest Region conference I do not have representation for is the SLIAC.)


Transylvania's win over Wabash on 12/21 was huge (Wabash is in the Great Lakes region but that game was "in-region" for both teams.)  Wabash is 7-1 in-region, including a win over Wooster.  The Little Giants are right near the top of the Great Lakes region picture right now.  This could be a non-conference win that ends up really helping Transylvania as the season plays out.


KnightSlappy

Quote from: Titan Q on December 28, 2011, 10:23:07 AM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on December 28, 2011, 09:15:59 AM
Another regional rankings update.

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2011/12/regional-rankings-12282011.html

Thanks again for doing this, KnightSlappy!

I posted the following on the CCIW board a couple days ago.  Same Midwest teams, just different order...


Quote from: Titan Q on December 26, 2011, 10:17:35 AM
This is an update to something I posted about a week ago.  It's my best projection at how the top Midwest Region teams stack up right now, based on NCAA seeding/selection criteria. 

(These are "in-region" records - games vs non-D3s or out-of-region D3s have been excluded.  I also listed wins over other teams on this list and wins vs prominent teams from other regions if the game was counted as "in-region", as well as all in-region losses.)

1. Transylvania (HCAC), 9-0 (won vs Wabash)
2. Augustana (CCIW), 8-1 (won vs UW-Stevens Point…lost @ Wash U)
3. Grinnell (MWC), 7-0 (won vs Ripon)
4. Ripon (MWC), 5-1 (won vs Illinois Wesleyan…lost @ Grinnell)
5. Illinois Wesleyan (CCIW), 7-2 (won vs Wash U…lost @ Ripon, @ UW-Whitewater)
6. Washington U (UAA), 7-2 (won vs Augustana, vs Wheaton…lost @ Whitworth, @ IWU)
7. Wheaton (CCIW), 7-2 (won vs Whitman…lost @ Hope, @ Wash U)
8. Edgewood (NATHC), 7-1 (won vs Lake Forest, @ Lakeland…lost vs UW-Stevens Point)
9. Hanover (HCAC), 6-2 (won vs Ohio Wesleyan, vs Rose-Hulman…lost vs Ohio Northern, @ Manchester)
10. Lake Forest (MWC), 7-1 (won vs Lakeland…lost @ Edgewood)
11. Rose-Hulman (HCAC), 9-2 (none…lost vs Wabash, @ Hanover)
12. Lakeland (NATHC), 4-2 (none…lost @ Lake Forest, vs Edgewood)

(The only Midwest Region conference I do not have representation for is the SLIAC.)


Transylvania's win over Wabash on 12/21 was huge (Wabash is in the Great Lakes region but that game was "in-region" for both teams.)  Wabash is 7-1 in-region, including a win over Wooster.  The Little Giants are right near the top of the Great Lakes region picture right now.  This could be a non-conference win that ends up really helping Transylvania as the season plays out.


I was surprised at how much love Edgewood has received from the strength of schedule calculation.

Here's a comparison with Augustana (in-region numbers only).

Edgewood raw SOS: .578, with H/A multiplier: .607
Augustana raw SOS: .521, with H/A multiplier: .480

Augustana has played 3 on the road, 5 at home, and 1 at a neutral site. Edgewood has played 4 on the road and 4 at home.

Titan Q

Quote from: KnightSlappy on December 28, 2011, 11:15:41 AM
I was surprised at how much love Edgewood has received from the strength of schedule calculation.

Here's a comparison with Augustana (in-region numbers only).

Edgewood raw SOS: .578, with H/A multiplier: .607
Augustana raw SOS: .521, with H/A multiplier: .480

Augustana has played 3 on the road, 5 at home, and 1 at a neutral site. Edgewood has played 4 on the road and 4 at home.

I agree - that is surprising.

When other parts of the primary criteria are considered, I think the UW-Stevens Point common opponent result puts Augie safely ahead of Edgewood right now. 


smedindy

Nice to see the NCAC have four of the top six in the GL!
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KnightSlappy

Quote from: smedindy on January 03, 2012, 02:31:35 PM
Nice to see the NCAC have four of the top six in the GL!

NCAC has made quite a jump this year. I have them ranked fifth in D3 based on my simple RPI averaging calc.



KnightSlappy

Using my spreadsheet data, I ranked all teams' Pool C chances using three 'quick and dirty' methods. For each method, I pulled out three tiers -- top 19, next 19, third 19. Here's how it came out (listed alphabetically by tier).

Method 1Method 2Method 3
AmherstAmherstAmherst
CabriniCabrini
Claremont-Mudd-ScrippsClaremont-Mudd-ScrippsClaremont-Mudd-Scripps
DubuqueDubuque
Eastern ConnecticutEastern ConnecticutEastern Connecticut
EmoryEmory
HopeHope
Illinois Wesleyan
Lake ForestLake ForestLake Forest
Mary Hardin-BaylorMary Hardin-BaylorMary Hardin-Baylor
MiddleburyMiddleburyMiddlebury
MITMIT
Rhode Island CollegeRhode Island CollegeRhode Island College
Rochester
St. Josephs (L.I.)St. Josephs (L.I.)
St. Marys (Md.)
St. Thomas
UW-Stevens PointUW-Stevens PointUW-Stevens Point
UW-WhitewaterUW-WhitewaterUW-Whitewater
Virginia WesleyanVirginia Wesleyan
Wabash
Washington U.Washington U.Washington U.
Western ConnecticutWestern ConnecticutWestern Connecticut
Wheaton (Ill.)
WittenbergWittenberg
WPIWPI
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Albertus MagnusAlbertus Magnus
Birmingham-SouthernBirmingham-Southern
Cabrini
CatholicCatholic
Dubuque
Emory
Franklin and MarshallFranklin and Marshall
George Fox
Hardin-Simmons
HartwickHartwick
HobartHobartHobart
Hope
Illinois WesleyanIllinois Wesleyan
KeystoneKeystone
LycomingLycomingLycoming
Mary WashingtonMary WashingtonMary Washington
MIT
New Jersey City
New York UniversityNew York University
Randolph-MaconRandolph-MaconRandolph-Macon
St. Josephs (L.I.)
St. Josephs (Maine)
Staten IslandStaten IslandStaten Island
TransylvaniaTransylvania
Tufts
UW-River Falls
Virginia Wesleyan
WabashWabash
Wheaton (Ill.)Wheaton (Ill.)
Whitworth
Wilkes
William PatersonWilliam PatersonWilliam Paterson
Wittenberg
WPI
---------------------
Becker
BethanyBethany
Catholic
Christopher Newport
Concordia (Wis.)Concordia (Wis.)
EdgewoodEdgewoodEdgewood
GrinnellGrinnell
HanoverHanover
Hardin-SimmonsHardin-Simmons
Keystone
LutherLutherLuther
Mass-Dartmouth
Messiah
NazarethNazarethNazareth
New Jersey CityNew Jersey City
Ohio WesleyanOhio WesleyanOhio Wesleyan
Ramapo
Rose-HulmanRose-HulmanRose-Hulman
St. Josephs (Maine)St. Josephs (Maine)
St. Marys (Md.)St. Marys (Md.)
St. ThomasSt. Thomas
Susquehanna
Transylvania
TuftsTufts
UW-La Crosse
UW-River FallsUW-River Falls
WesleyanWesleyanWesleyan
WhitworthWhitworth
WilkesWilkes
WoosterWoosterWooster

Lots of these would get Pool A's, so tier 1's are looking like 'Pool C locks', tier 2's look solid, and tier 3 would be the bubble (generally speaking).

Bengalsrule

Any regional rankings this week???????? ???

KnightSlappy

#3418
Yeah. Been a busy week. I should have them up today (with results thru monday).

[edit] Men's rankings are now up on my blog.

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2012/01/regional-rankings-1242012.html

hickory_cornhusker

Quote from: KnightSlappy on January 24, 2012, 02:54:25 PM
Yeah. Been a busy week. I should have them up today (with results thru monday).

[edit] Men's rankings are now up on my blog.

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2012/01/regional-rankings-1242012.html

I know this is on the Pool C board but do you know who the top Pool B team is that isn't in your regional rankings. Nebraska Wesleyan is in the West Rankings but there is questions as to whether they will be eligible for the D3 Tourney due to their lack of D3 games.