Pool C

[John Gleich]

Lets also not forget this is assuming no conference tourney upsets, and we are usually due for at least a handful of those each year. Therefore, if I were in the teens of those selections, I wouldn't feel too comfortable with a pool c bid right now.

That is an extremely important point.  We know there are upsets coming that will take Pool C bids away from the teams on my projection.  Would we say the average # of major upsets each year is 4-5?

Updating my original post from this morning...

"Bubble Bursters" (Currents A's that would steal C's)
1. Cabrini (Mid-Atl, CSAC), 24-0
2. Hope (GL, MIAA), 16-0
3. Albertus Magnus (NE, GNAC), 24-1
4. Mary Hardin-Baylor (South, ASC), 23-1
5. MIT (NE, NEWMAC), 23-1
6. UW-Whitewater (West, WIAC), 22-3
7. Birmingham Southern (South, SCAC), 21-1
8. Amherst (NE, NESCAC), 21-2
9. Whitworth (West, NWC), 21-2
10. CMS (West, SCIAC), 17-1
11. Wittenberg (GL, NCAC), 18-4
12. Franklin & Marshall (Mid-Atl, CC), 23-2
13. William Paterson (Atlantic, NJAC), 22-3
14. Hartwick (East, E8), 22-3
15. Oswego St (East, SUNYAC), 22-3
16. Medaille (East, AMCC), 22-2
17. Virginia Wesleyan (South, ODAC), 20-3
18. Staten Island (Atlantic, CUNYAC), 20-2
19. Transylvania (Midwest, HCAC), 21-2
20. St. Joseph's (Atlantic, Sky), 21-2
21. Lake Forest (Midwest, MWC), 19-3
22. Eastern Connecticut (NE, LEC), 20-5
23. Hobart (East, LL), 20-4

(For every team on this list that does not win a Pool C bid, start clipping off the bottom of my Pool C list below).


The next tier of current Pool A's (competitive Pool C candidates, but not on par with "bubble bursters")
Bethany (GL, PrAC), 22-2
Becker (NE, NECC), 21-4
Misericordia (Mid-Atl, MACF), 19-6
Christopher Newport (South, USAC), 18-4
North Central (Midwest, CCIW), 17-5
St. Thomas (West, MIAC), 17-6
Messiah (Atl, MACC), 17-6
St. Mary's, MD (Mid-Atl, CAC), 16-6
Concordia, WI (Midwest, NathC), 19-4 - should get back in MW this week


Current Pool C Projection
1.   Middlebury (NE, NESCAC)
2.   Western Connecticut (NE, LEC)
3.   Rhode Island (NE), LEC)
4.   Wooster (GL, NCAC)
5.   Wheaton (MW, CCIW)
6.   UW-River Falls (W, WIAC)
7.   Wesleyan (NE, NESCAC)
8.   Randolph-Macon (S, ODAC)
9.   UW-Stevens Point (W, WIAC)
10.   WPI (NE, NEWMAC)
11.   Ohio Wesleyan (GL, NCAC)
12.    Illinois Wesleyan (MW, CCIW)
13.    Emory (S, UAA)
14.    Keystone (MA, CSAC)
15.    NYU (E, UAA)
16.    Keene State (NE, LEC)
17.    Augustana (MW, CCIW)
18.    Gustavus Adolphus (W, MIAC)
19.    Richard Stockton (Atl, NJAC)


Pool C "Left on the Table" Projection

(A) New Jersey City (NJAC), 15-6 (.714), .525, 1-2
(E) Nazareth (E8), 17-6 (.739), .547, 0-4
(GL) Wabash (NCAC): 16-7 (.696), .576, 2-5
(MA) Mary Washington (CAC), 16-6 (.727), .526, 3-2
(MW) Grinnell (MW), 17-4 (.810), .465, 2-0
(NE) Tufts (NESCAC), 16-8 (.667), .543, 0-4
(S) Hardin-Simmons (ASC), 17-6 (.739), .542, 0-3
(W) Whitman (NWC), 16-7 (.696), .525, 1-3

Just carrying this forward... I realize it's from last week so it may not be up to date, but the "locks" should still be locks I would think, shouldn't they?


If so, I think there are two of those "locks" who have lost... Lake Forest just dropped their game to Carroll and St. Joseph lost earlier this week.

[smedindy]

Wooster beats OWU 89-80, putting Wooster in the NCAC finals and solidifies a "C" at least. OWU now no doubt firmly on the bubble.

[John Gleich]

Wheaton beats Illinois Wesleyan 69-56

[John Gleich]

River Falls beats Stevens Point 836-12
Whatewater beats La Crosse 66-55

[Mr. Ypsi]

River Falls beats Stevens Point 836-12
Whatewater beats La Crosse 66-55

WOW!  That is the worst beat down EVER!!

[wooscotsfan]

Final:  Denison 66  Wittenberg 58

Witt is upset on their home floor and will likely take one of the Pool C bids.

NCAC tourney final tomorrow is Denison vs. Wooster

[Mr. Ypsi]

Final:  Denison 66  Wittenberg 58

Witt is upset on their home floor and will likely take one of the Pool C bids.

NCAC tourney final tomorrow is Denison vs. Wooster

I think most predictions had both Witt and Woo as pretty safe if they needed a Pool C, so it takes away a slot only if Denison upsets Woo.

[wooscotsfan]

Final:  Denison 66  Wittenberg 58

Witt is upset on their home floor and will likely take one of the Pool C bids.

NCAC tourney final tomorrow is Denison vs. Wooster

I think most predictions had both Witt and Woo as pretty safe if they needed a Pool C, so it takes away a slot only if Denison upsets Woo.

Agreed - so how many D3 fans will be cheering for Wooster tomorrow tonight? 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Final:  Denison 66  Wittenberg 58

Witt is upset on their home floor and will likely take one of the Pool C bids.

NCAC tourney final tomorrow is Denison vs. Wooster

I think most predictions had both Witt and Woo as pretty safe if they needed a Pool C, so it takes away a slot only if Denison upsets Woo.

Agreed - so how many D3 fans will be cheering for Wooster tomorrow tonight? 

Well, certainly all those whose team is 'on the bubble'.  Me, for example!   (IWU lost to Wheaton tonite; my hope is that Lake Forest will fall below them [having lost to Carroll] so the Titans reach the table early enough that their SOS and results vs. regionally-ranked teams just might let them sneak in.)

[sac]

Sometimes listening to D3 broadcasts is just funny.  I've tuned into CMS-Redlands and the announcer just said the D3 tournament selection works just like D1..........right down to saying it will be 64 teams.  Oh and it will be in Virginia this year.

Californians...what do you do? 

[magicman]

East Region Scores

Oswego defeats Brockport 64-57

Cortland beats Geneseo 68-59

Hartwick #1 in the East region, loses to Ithaca 79-67

Nazareth defeats Stevens 74-71

Medaille defeats Hilbert 63-52

[Ralph Turner]

Sometimes listening to D3 broadcasts is just funny.  I've tuned into CMS-Redlands and the announcer just said the D3 tournament selection works just like D1..........right down to saying it will be 64 teams.  Oh and it will be in Virginia this year.

Californians...what do you do? 

I will assume that that is not a political comment that belongs over on the Politics Board.

[magicman]

Scores from the Northeast Region:

Eastern Connecticut 81 Keene State 76 in double OT

Rhode Island 75 Western Connecticut 74        Wow!  Western Connecticut was up by 9 with 1:29 left to play and lost as RIC hit 2 free throws with 9 seconds left and WC misfired on their final attempt.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Western Connecticut loses a heartbreaker to Rhode Island College 75-74.  WConn was up eight with a minute to go; DaQuan Brooks scored 41 on 7-9 3pt shooting.  But he missed two threes in the last minute and one of his teammates committed a foul with four seconds left, up by 1.  RIC hit both FTs and won the game.

[mailsy]

Cabrini wins CSAC and is a Pool A.  Keystone is in Pool C territory.  With 6 losses(all in region) and 0-3 against regionally ranked(Cabrini), what do you see their chances of getting into the field of 62?