Pool C

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Actually... its because the rankings are done by each region on TUESDAYS and then the national committee gets on a conference call early on Wednesdays and works for a few hours and then finalizes them. The reason they were so late the first week was actually because those at Turner who run the NCAA.com site screwed up and didn't post the rankings in a timely fashion. I promise you the national committee's call has probably ended at roughly the same time each week. These guys have been through a few run-throughs before the first regional rankings week... so it isn't something new to the RACs or the national committee.

I will also say having talked to coaches on regional committees and the national committee over the last decade, they spend countless hours on these things. They take them very seriously and they don't take the responsibility lightly. I am always impressed with those who serve on a committee the first time and see the work being done and have a whole new appreciation for not only the criteria and how their teams are affected by it... but the work these coaches do on a daily and weekly basis. I have yet to find a coach who may not have been complimentary of the ranking system then come back and discount the work or the criteria or the effort when they serve even just one year.

You may think they are not trying... but I dare you to poll these coaches and find that to be true. Just because you don't agree with the position doesn't mean the committees are not trying to do the best job possible.

[Titan Q]

Greek Tragedy, thanks for doing this again.  Great stuff.

What is the timeframe on the results you are listing?  Since Sunday?  I plan to update my Pool C projection list later today and just want to be clear on that piece.

Thanks.

[hopefan]

Agree with TQ, Greek Tragedy... I'm printing out to have at my side as I follow the results of the next 4 days....  this is the best week of the year!!!!!

[Greek Tragedy]

Im trying to update the results daily, but the records, SOS and vRRO are all from the NCAA page (results through Sunday) and wont be adjusted. Too much work for me! Sorry.

[Ralph Turner]

Im trying to update the results daily, but the records, SOS and vRRO are all from the NCAA page (results through Sunday) and won't be adjusted. Too much work for me! Sorry.

With your permission...

UPDATED WITH THIS WEEK'S REGIONAL RANKINGS, SOS and vRRO.  SOS and vRRO are all from the NCAA page (results through Sunday) and won't be adjusted.

POOL C teams in BLUE

ATL
RNK1	RNK2	RNK3	TEAM	CONF.	REG/WIN%	SOS	vRRO	SCHEDULE
1	2	1	Ramapo	NJAC	19-3 (.864)	0.517	3-1	BEAT William Paterson 83-58; vs. Rutgers-Newark in  Final 2/22
2	1	2	Old Westbury	SKY	21-2 (.913)	0.491	2-1	vs. Farmingdale State in semis 2/21
5	3	3	Rutgers-Newark	NJAC	18-6 (.750)	0.534	2-3	BEAT Richard Stockton 49-46; vs. Ramapo in Final 2/22
4	4	4	Richard Stockton	NJAC	19-6 (.760)	0.537	1-4	LOST at Rutgers-Newark 49-46 in semis
3	5	5	SUNY-Purchase	SKY	20-5 (.800)	0.498	1-2	vs. Mount St. Mary in semis 2/21
EAST
RNK1	RNK2	RNK3	TEAM	CONF.	REG/WIN%	SOS	vRRO	SCHEDULE
1	1	1	Rochester	UAA	20-3 (.870)	0.572	7-2	at Emory 2/23
2	2	2	SUNY-Cortland	SUNYAC	21-3 (.875)	0.514	3-2	vs. Oswego St. in semis 2/22
3	3	3	Stevens	E8	19-4 (.826)	0.533	3-2	vs. Utica in semis 2/22
NR	5	4	Plattsburgh St.	SUNYAC	18-6 (.750)	0.545	2-4	vs. Geneseo State in semis 2/22
5	4	5	Hobart	LL	18-6 (.750)	0.538	0-4	BEAT Skidmore 77-72; vs. RPI in Final 2/23
NR	NR	6	Oswego State	SUNYAC	18-7 (.720)	0.501	2-5	BEAT Brockport St. 78-66; vs. Cortland St. in semis 2/22
			DROPPING OUT
NR	6	NR	Ithaca	E8	15-8 (.652)	0.537	2-3	vs. Fisher in E8 semis 2/22
4	NR	NR	NYU	UAA	14-10 (.583)	0.58	6-5	vs. Brandeis 2/23
6	NR	NR	SUNY-Geneseo	SUNYAC	16-8 (.667)	0.523	2-3	BEAT New Paltz St. 98-80; vs. Plattsburgh St. in semis 2/22
GT LK
RNK1	RNK2	RNK3	TEAM	CONF.	REG/WIN%	SOS	vRRO	SCHEDULE
1	1	1	Wooster	NCAC	20-4 (.833)	0.554	3-1	BEAT Oberlin 74-47; vs. Wittenberg in semis 2/22
2	2	2	Ohio Wesleyan	NCAC	19-4 (.826)	0.537	2-2	BEAT Denison 77-56; vs. Kenyon in semis 2/22
5	5	3	St. Vincent	PrAC	18-3 (.857)	0.495	1-1	BEAT Waynesburg 72-62; vs. Washington and Jefferson in semis 2/21
3	3	4	Thomas More	PrAC	20-3 (.870)	0.499	1-2	BEAT Geneva 82-60; vs. Thiel in semis 2/21
NR	4	5	Capital	OAC	19-4 (.826)	0.487	1-2	vs. Mount Union in semis 2/21
4	6	6	Calvin	MIAA	18-1 (.947)	0.441	0-0	vs. Adrian in semis 2/21
			DROPPING OUT
6	NR	NR	Marietta	OAC	18-7 (.720)	0.500	1-3	vs. Wilmington in semis 2/21
MID-ATL
RNK1	RNK2	RNK3	TEAM	CONF.	REG/WIN%	SOS	vRRO	SCHEDULE
4	1	1	Alvernia	MACC	21-4 (.840)	0.549	4-2	BEAT Arcadia 69-66; vs. Lycoming in Final 2/23
1	2	2	Catholic	LAND	19-3 (.864)	0.528	2-2	BEAT Merchant Marine 65-57; vs. Juniata in Final 2/23
2	4	3	Albright	MACC	20-5 (.800)	0.546	3-1	LOST to Lycoming 80-78 in semis
3	3	4	St. Mary's (Md.)	CAC	17-3 (.850)	0.531	3-2	vs. Mary Washington in semis 2/21
5	5	5	Wesley	CAC	16-3 (.842)	0.508	3-1	vs. Salisbury in semis 2/21
6	6	6	Scranton	LAND	19-6 (.760)	0.530	3-1	LOST to Juniata 84-74 2OT in semis
NR	8	7	DeSales	MACF	19-5 (.792)	0.493	1-1	BEAT Fairleigh Dickinson 59-57; vs. Delaware Valley in Final 2/23
NR	NR	8	Salisbury	CAC	15-5 (.750)	0.521	3-4	BEAT York (Pa) 80-60; at Wesley in semis 2/21
9	NR	9	Frank & Marsh	CC	16-5 (.762)	0.518	2-2	vs. TBA in semis 2/22
			DROPPING OUT
8	7	NR	Cabrini	CSAC	18-4 (.818)	0.473	0-2	BEAT Neumann 90-77; at Keystone in Final 2/22
NR	9	NR	Dickinson	CC	16-7 (.696)	0.513	2-1	vs. Johns Hopkins in semis 2/22
7	NR	NR	Arcadia	MACC	15-8 (.652)	0.558	1-4	BEAT Stevenson 85-83; LOST at Alvernia 69-66 in semis

[Titan Q]

Im trying to update the results daily, but the records, SOS and vRRO are all from the NCAA page (results through Sunday) and wont be adjusted. Too much work for me! Sorry.

Oh, absolutely.  I just wanted to make sure I knew when these results were from.  Thanks.

[Titan Q]

I've updated through Wednesday 2/21.  Notes about the data...

* In-region record is through Wed 2/21
* SOS is through Sun 2/17 (from data sheets)
* Results vs regionally ranked is through Wed 2/21


Pool C projection
1. UW-Whitewater (West, WIAC) - 20-4 (.833)/.581/4-3
2. Williams (Northeast, NESCAC) - 20-3 (.870)/.556/4-3
3. Washington U. (Midwest, UAA) - 18-5 (.783)/.567/6-4
4. Wheaton (Midwest, CCIW) - 17-5 (.773)/.568/4-3
5. Middlebury (Northeast, NESCAC) - 19-2 (.905)/.536/2-2
6. North Central (Midwest, CCIW) - 20-3 (.870)/.528/4-2
7. MIT (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 19-4 (.826)/.552/4-3 
8. Hampden-Sydney (South, ODAC) - 18-3 (.857)/.507/4-2
9. Emory (South, UAA) - 18-6 (.750)/.557/4-4
10. Transylvania (Midwest, HCAC) - 19-5 (.792)/.542/3-1
11. Ohio Wesleyan (Great Lakes, NCAC) - 20-4 (.833)/.537/2-2
12. Albright (Mid-Atlantic, MACC) - 20-6 (.769)/.544/3-1
13. Wesley (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) - 16-3 (.842)/.508/4-2 
14. Plattsburgh State (East, SUNYAC) - 18-6 (.750)/.545/4-4
15. Springfield (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 18-7 (.720)/.561/3-5
16. Rutgers-Newark (Atlantic, NJAC) - 19-6 (.760)/.534/3-3
17. Brandeis (Northeast, UAA) - 17-7 (.708)/.570/4-6 
18. UW-Stout (West, WIAC) - 19-6 (.790)/.536/1-4
19. Thomas More (Great Lakes, PrAC) - 21-3 (.875)/.499/1-2   
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20. Concordia-Tx (South, ASC) - 18-4 (.818)/.514/2-2
21. Scranton (Mid-Atlantic, LAND) - 19-7 (.731)/.530/3-1
22. Salisbury (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) – 16-5 (.762)/.521/3-4
23. Richard Stockton (Atlantic, NJAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.537/1-5
24. Eastern Connecticut (Northeast, LEC) - 19-4 (.826)/.499/1-2
25. Tufts (Northeast, NESCAC) – 16-5 (.762)/.524/0-5
26. SUNY-Purchase (Atlantic, Sky) - 20-5 (.800)/.498/1-2
27. Augustana (Midwest, CCIW) - 17-7 (.708)/.548/1-7
28. Concordia-Moorhead (West, MIAC) - 18-6 (.750)/.507/2-2
29. Augsburg (West, MIAC) - 20-6 (.769)/.505/1-3
30. Whitman (West, NWC) - 15-6 (.714)/.540/2-2
31. Ithaca (East, E8) - 16-8 (.667)/.537/2-4
32. Texas-Dallas (South, ASC) - 19-6 (.760)/.511/0-3
33. Oswego State (East, SUNYAC) – 19-7 (.731)/.501/2-5
34. Randolph (South, ODAC) - 14-5 (.737)/.502/2-3

Top "Bubble Bursters" (presumed Pool As that would be competitive in Pool C)
1. Amherst (Northeast, NESCAC) - 23-2 (.920)/.574/7-1
2. St. Thomas (West, MIAC) - 24-1 (.960)/.540/6-1
3. UW-Stevens Point (West, WIAC) - 21-4 (.840)/.586/7-2.
4. Rochester (East, UAA) - 20-3 (.870)/.572/7-2 
5. WPI (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 23-2 (.920)/.561/4-2
6. Virginia Wesleyan (South, ODAC) - 16-5 (.762)/.549/7-3
7. Illinois Wesleyan (Midwest, CCIW) - 18-4 (.818)/.539/5-3
8. Alvernia (Mid-Atlantic, MACC) - 22-4 (.846)/.549/4-2
9. Rhode Island (Northeast, LEC) - 23-3 (.885)/.530/3-3
10. Wooster (Great Lakes, NCAC) -21-4 (.840)/.554/3-1
11. Whitworth (West, NWC) - 21-3 (.875)/.526/2-2
12. Mary Hardin-Baylor (South, ASC) - 21-4 (.840)/.533/3-2
13. St. Mary's (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) - 17-3 (.850)/.531/4-3
14. Cortland St. (East, SUNYAC) - 21-3 (.875)/.514/4-3
15. Ramapo (Atlantic, NJAC) - 20-3 (.870)/.517/3-1
16. Stevens (East, E8) - 19-4 (.826)/.533/3-2
17. Catholic (Mid-Atlantic, LAND) - 20-3 (.870)/.520/2-2
18. Rose-Hulman (Midwest, HCAC) - 21-3 (.875)/.505/1-1
19. St. Vincent (Great Lakes, PrAC) - 19-3 (.864)/.495/1-1
20. Capital (Great Lakes, OAC) - 19-4 (.826)/.487/1-2
21. Calvin (Great Lakes, MIAA) - 18-1 (.947)/.441/0-0
22. SUNY-Old Westbury (Atlantic, Sky) - 21-2 (.913)/.491/2-1
23. St. Norbert (Midwest, MWC) - 18-5 (.783)/.534/1-2
24. Christopher Newport (South, USAC) - 17-5 (.773)/.535/0-2
25. Buena Vista (West, IIAC) - 18-6 (.750)/.561/1-2
26. Hobart (East, LL) - 19-6 (.760)/.538/0-4
27. Franklin & Marshall (Mid-Atlantic, CC) – 16-5 (.762)/.518/2-2


Let me know if you find Pool A vs Pool C issues, errors in data, or if something looks out of whack.

[Greek Tragedy]

Let me know if you find Pool A vs Pool C issues, errors in data, or if something looks out of whack.

Whitney Houston once said, "Crack is whack"

BTW, great work. 

[Greek Tragedy]

MW
RNK1	RNK2	RNK3	TEAM	CONF.	REG/WIN%	SOS	vRRO	SCHEDULE
1	1	1	IllinoisWesleyan	CCIW	18-3 (.857)	0.539	5-2	LOST at North Central 87-83 OT; vs. Augustana in semis 2/22
4	2	2	Washington U.	UAA	18-5 (.783)	0.567	6-4	vs. Chicago 2/23
3	3	3	Wheaton(IL)	CCIW	16-5 (.762)	0.568	4-3	WON at Elmhurst 70-55; vs. North Central in semis 2/22
5	4	4	NorthCentral(IL)	CCIW	19-3 (.864)	0.528	3-2	BEAT Illinois Wesleyan 87-83 OT; vs Wheaton in semis 2/22
2	5	5	Transylvania	HCAC	18-5 (.783)	0.542	3-1	BEAT Mount St. Joseph 75-57; vs. Hanover in semis 2/22
6	6	6	RoseHulman	HCAC	21-3 (.875)	0.505	1-1	vs. Defiance in semis 2/22
8	8	7	St.Norbert	MWC	18-5 (.783)	0.534	1-2	vs. Ripon in semis 2/22
7	7	8	Augustana	CCIW	16-7 (.696)	0.548	1-7	BEAT Millikin 64-51; at Illinois Wesleyan in semis 2/22
NE
RNK1	RNK2	RNK3	TEAM	CONF.	REG/WIN%	SOS	vRRO	SCHEDULE
2	2	1	Amherst	NESCAC	23-2 (.920)	0.574	6-1	vs. Tufts in semis 2/23
1	1	2	WPI	NEWMAC	23-2 (.920)	0.561	4-2	vs. TBA in semis 2/23
3	3	3	Williams	NESCAC	20-3 (.870)	0.556	3-3	vs. Middlebury in semis 2/23
5	5	4	RIC	LEC	22-3 (.880)	0.53	3-3	BEAT Mass.-Dartmouth 62-58; vs. Southern Maine in semis 2/22
4	4	5	Middlebury	NESCAC	19-2 (.905)	0.536	1-2	vs. Williams in semis 2/23
7	6	6	MIT	NEWMAC	19-4 (.826)	0.552	3-3	vs. Springfield in semis 2/23
10	8	7	Springfield	NEWMAC	18-7 (.720)	0.561	3-5	at MIT in semis 2/23
6	7	8	Brandeis	UAA	17-7 (.708)	0.57	3-6	at NYU 2/23
8	9	9	Curry	CCC	18-7 (.720)	0.547	0-4	BEAT Western New England 76-54; vs. Eastern Nazerene in semis 2/21
9	10	10	Westfield St.	MASCAC	19-4 (.826)	0.500	1-0	vs. Fitchburg State in semis 2/21
11	11	11	Eastern Conn. St.	LEC	18-4 (.818)	0.499	1-1	BEAT West. Conn 65-54; vs. Keene State in semis 2/22
NR	NR	12	Tufts	NESCAC	16-5 (.762)	0.524	0-5	vs. Amherst in semis 2/23
			DROPPING OUT
12	12	NR	Albertus Magnus	GNAC	21-3 (.875)	0.441	0-0	BEAT Rivier 84-65; vs. Johnson and Wales in semis 2/21
SOUTH
RNK1	RNK2	RNK3	TEAM	CONF.	REG/WIN%	SOS	vRRO	SCHEDULE
6	4	1	Vir. Wes.	ODAC	16-5 (.762)	0.549	7-2	vs. Eastern Mennonite in quarters 2/22
1	1	2	Ham-Syd	ODAC	18-3 (.857)	0.507	4-2	vs. Roanoke in quarters 2/22
2	2	3	MHB	ASC	21-4 (.840)	0.533	3-2	vs. LeTourneau in quarters 2/22
3	6	4	Chris Newport	USAC	17-5 (.773)	0.535	0-2	vs. Averett in quarters 2/21
5	3	5	Emory	UAA	17-6 (.739)	0.557	4-4	BEAT Covenant 75-50; vs. Rochester 2/23
4	5	6	Concordia (TX)	ASC	18-4 (.818)	0.514	2-2	vs. Mississippi College in quarters 2/22
NR	8	7	Texas-Dallas	ASC	19-6 (.760)	0.511	0-3	vs. Schreiner in quarters 2/22
NR	7	8	Randolph	ODAC	14-5 (.737)	0.502	2-3	vs. Lynchburg in quarters 2/22
			DROPPING OUT
7	NR	NR	Lynchburg	ODAC	14-7 (.667)	0.492	1-5	BEAT Shenandoah 90-65; vs. Randolph in quarters 2/22
8	NR	NR	Guilford	ODAC	14-8 (.636)	0.520	2-5	BEAT Emory & Henry 70-60; vs. Randolph-Macon in quarters 2/22
WEST
RNK1	RNK2	RNK3	TEAM	CONF.	REG/WIN%	SOS	vRRO	SCHEDULE
1	1	1	St. Thomas	MIAC	24-1 (.960)	0.54	6-1	vs. TBA in semis 2/22
3	2	2	Stevens Point	WIAC	21-4 (.840)	0.586	7-2	vs. Platteville in semis 2/21.
4	3	3	Whitewater	WIAC	20-4 (.833)	0.581	4-3	vs. Stout in semis 2/21.
2	4	4	Whitworth	NWC	21-3 (.875)	0.526	2-2	vs. Lewis & Clark in semis 2/21
6	5	5	Buena Vista	IIAC	18-6 (.750)	0.561	1-2	vs. Dubuque in semis 2/21
5	6	6	Stout	WIAC	18-6 (.750)	0.536	1-4	BEAT Superior 78-64; at Whitewater in semis 2/21
9	7	7	Con-Moorhead	MIAC	18-6 (.750)	0.507	2-2	vs. TBA in semis 2/22
7	9	8	Augsburg	MIAC	19-6 (.760)	0.505	1-3	BEAT St. John's 74-67; vs. Concordia Moorhead in semis 2/22
NR	8	9	Whitman	NWC	15-6 (.714)	0.54	2-2	vs. George Fox in semis 2/21
			DROPPING OUT
8	NR	NR	Luther	IIAC	17-5 (.773)	0.512	1-2	vs. Wartburg in semis 2/21

Funny how it looks nicer in quotes.

[Titan Q]

Pool C bubble game...

Thiel 39
Thomas More 30 (half)

http://livestats.prestosports.com/thomasmore/mbkb/?e=w3ejnjokxp9bq2ms

[realist]

T. More 86-80 Thiel

[Greek Tragedy]

Platteville 54
Stevens Point 52

2 min to go.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Down goes Point.

Platteville 60 UWSP 56

[Titan Q]

Down goes Point.

Platteville 60 UWSP 56

Crazy stuff.

Only a Pool C impact if UW-Whitewater does not win the WIAC.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Whitewater 63, Stout 59.


Plateville vs Whitewater for the WIAC.