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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Actually... its because the rankings are done by each region on TUESDAYS and then the national committee gets on a conference call early on Wednesdays and works for a few hours and then finalizes them. The reason they were so late the first week was actually because those at Turner who run the NCAA.com site screwed up and didn't post the rankings in a timely fashion. I promise you the national committee's call has probably ended at roughly the same time each week. These guys have been through a few run-throughs before the first regional rankings week... so it isn't something new to the RACs or the national committee.

I will also say having talked to coaches on regional committees and the national committee over the last decade, they spend countless hours on these things. They take them very seriously and they don't take the responsibility lightly. I am always impressed with those who serve on a committee the first time and see the work being done and have a whole new appreciation for not only the criteria and how their teams are affected by it... but the work these coaches do on a daily and weekly basis. I have yet to find a coach who may not have been complimentary of the ranking system then come back and discount the work or the criteria or the effort when they serve even just one year.

You may think they are not trying... but I dare you to poll these coaches and find that to be true. Just because you don't agree with the position doesn't mean the committees are not trying to do the best job possible.
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Titan Q

Greek Tragedy, thanks for doing this again.  Great stuff.

What is the timeframe on the results you are listing?  Since Sunday?  I plan to update my Pool C projection list later today and just want to be clear on that piece.

Thanks.

hopefan

Agree with TQ, Greek Tragedy... I'm printing out to have at my side as I follow the results of the next 4 days....  this is the best week of the year!!!!!
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Greek Tragedy

Im trying to update the results daily, but the records, SOS and vRRO are all from the NCAA page (results through Sunday) and wont be adjusted. Too much work for me! Sorry.
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 21, 2013, 08:30:18 AM
Im trying to update the results daily, but the records, SOS and vRRO are all from the NCAA page (results through Sunday) and won't be adjusted. Too much work for me! Sorry.

With your permission...
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 21, 2013, 05:45:53 AM
UPDATED WITH THIS WEEK'S REGIONAL RANKINGS, SOS and vRRO.  SOS and vRRO are all from the NCAA page (results through Sunday) and won't be adjusted.

POOL C teams in BLUE



   ATL                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   1      2      1      Ramapo      NJAC      19-3 (.864)      0.517       3-1      BEAT William Paterson 83-58; vs. Rutgers-Newark in  Final 2/22   
   2      1      2      Old Westbury      SKY      21-2 (.913)      0.491       2-1      vs. Farmingdale State in semis 2/21   
   5      3      3      Rutgers-Newark      NJAC      18-6 (.750)      0.534       2-3      BEAT Richard Stockton 49-46; vs. Ramapo in Final 2/22   
   4      4      4      Richard Stockton      NJAC      19-6 (.760)      0.537       1-4      LOST at Rutgers-Newark 49-46 in semis   
   3      5      5      SUNY-Purchase      SKY      20-5 (.800)      0.498       1-2      vs. Mount St. Mary in semis 2/21   
                                                      
   EAST                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   1      1      1      Rochester      UAA      20-3 (.870)      0.572       7-2      at Emory 2/23   
   2      2      2      SUNY-Cortland      SUNYAC      21-3 (.875)      0.514       3-2      vs. Oswego St. in semis 2/22   
   3      3      3      Stevens      E8      19-4 (.826)      0.533       3-2      vs. Utica in semis 2/22   
   NR      5      4      Plattsburgh St.      SUNYAC      18-6 (.750)      0.545       2-4      vs. Geneseo State in semis 2/22   
   5      4      5      Hobart      LL      18-6 (.750)      0.538       0-4      BEAT Skidmore 77-72; vs. RPI in Final 2/23   
   NR      NR      6      Oswego State      SUNYAC      18-7 (.720)      0.501       2-5      BEAT Brockport St. 78-66; vs. Cortland St. in semis 2/22   
                                                      
                     DROPPING OUT                                 
   NR      6      NR      Ithaca      E8      15-8 (.652)      0.537       2-3      vs. Fisher in E8 semis 2/22   
   4      NR      NR      NYU      UAA      14-10 (.583)      0.58       6-5      vs. Brandeis 2/23   
   6      NR      NR      SUNY-Geneseo      SUNYAC      16-8 (.667)      0.523       2-3      BEAT New Paltz St. 98-80; vs. Plattsburgh St. in semis 2/22   
                                                      
   GT LK                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   1      1      1      Wooster      NCAC      20-4 (.833)      0.554       3-1      BEAT Oberlin 74-47; vs. Wittenberg in semis 2/22   
   2      2      2      Ohio Wesleyan      NCAC      19-4 (.826)      0.537       2-2      BEAT Denison 77-56; vs. Kenyon in semis 2/22   
   5      5      3      St. Vincent      PrAC      18-3 (.857)      0.495       1-1      BEAT Waynesburg 72-62; vs. Washington and Jefferson in semis 2/21   
   3      3      4      Thomas More      PrAC      20-3 (.870)      0.499       1-2      BEAT Geneva 82-60; vs. Thiel in semis 2/21   
   NR      4      5      Capital      OAC      19-4 (.826)      0.487       1-2      vs. Mount Union in semis 2/21   
   4      6      6      Calvin      MIAA      18-1 (.947)      0.441       0-0      vs. Adrian in semis 2/21   
                                                      
                     DROPPING OUT                                 
   6      NR      NR      Marietta      OAC      18-7 (.720)      0.500       1-3      vs. Wilmington in semis 2/21   
                                                      
   MID-ATL                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   4      1      1      Alvernia      MACC      21-4 (.840)      0.549       4-2      BEAT Arcadia 69-66; vs. Lycoming in Final 2/23   
   1      2      2      Catholic      LAND      19-3 (.864)      0.528       2-2      BEAT Merchant Marine 65-57; vs. Juniata in Final 2/23   
   2      4      3      Albright      MACC      20-5 (.800)      0.546       3-1      LOST to Lycoming 80-78 in semis   
   3      3      4      St. Mary's (Md.)      CAC      17-3 (.850)      0.531       3-2      vs. Mary Washington in semis 2/21   
   5      5      5      Wesley      CAC      16-3 (.842)      0.508       3-1      vs. Salisbury in semis 2/21   
   6      6      6      Scranton      LAND      19-6 (.760)      0.530       3-1      LOST to Juniata 84-74 2OT in semis   
   NR      8      7      DeSales      MACF      19-5 (.792)      0.493       1-1      BEAT Fairleigh Dickinson 59-57; vs. Delaware Valley in Final 2/23   
   NR      NR      8      Salisbury      CAC      15-5 (.750)      0.521       3-4      BEAT York (Pa) 80-60; at Wesley in semis 2/21   
   9      NR      9      Frank & Marsh      CC      16-5 (.762)      0.518       2-2      vs. TBA in semis 2/22   
                                                      
                     DROPPING OUT                                 
   8      7      NR      Cabrini      CSAC      18-4 (.818)      0.473       0-2      BEAT Neumann 90-77; at Keystone in Final 2/22   
   NR      9      NR      Dickinson      CC      16-7 (.696)      0.513       2-1      vs. Johns Hopkins in semis 2/22   
   7      NR      NR      Arcadia      MACC      15-8 (.652)      0.558       1-4      BEAT Stevenson 85-83; LOST at Alvernia 69-66 in semis   
                                                      

Titan Q

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 21, 2013, 08:30:18 AM
Im trying to update the results daily, but the records, SOS and vRRO are all from the NCAA page (results through Sunday) and wont be adjusted. Too much work for me! Sorry.

Oh, absolutely.  I just wanted to make sure I knew when these results were from.  Thanks.

Titan Q

#4401
I've updated through Wednesday 2/21.  Notes about the data...

* In-region record is through Wed 2/21
* SOS is through Sun 2/17 (from data sheets)
* Results vs regionally ranked is through Wed 2/21


Pool C projection
1. UW-Whitewater (West, WIAC) - 20-4 (.833)/.581/4-3
2. Williams (Northeast, NESCAC) - 20-3 (.870)/.556/4-3
3. Washington U. (Midwest, UAA) - 18-5 (.783)/.567/6-4
4. Wheaton (Midwest, CCIW) - 17-5 (.773)/.568/4-3
5. Middlebury (Northeast, NESCAC) - 19-2 (.905)/.536/2-2
6. North Central (Midwest, CCIW) - 20-3 (.870)/.528/4-2
7. MIT (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 19-4 (.826)/.552/4-3 
8. Hampden-Sydney (South, ODAC) - 18-3 (.857)/.507/4-2
9. Emory (South, UAA) - 18-6 (.750)/.557/4-4
10. Transylvania (Midwest, HCAC) - 19-5 (.792)/.542/3-1
11. Ohio Wesleyan (Great Lakes, NCAC) - 20-4 (.833)/.537/2-2
12. Albright (Mid-Atlantic, MACC) - 20-6 (.769)/.544/3-1
13. Wesley (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) - 16-3 (.842)/.508/4-2 
14. Plattsburgh State (East, SUNYAC) - 18-6 (.750)/.545/4-4
15. Springfield (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 18-7 (.720)/.561/3-5
16. Rutgers-Newark (Atlantic, NJAC) - 19-6 (.760)/.534/3-3
17. Brandeis (Northeast, UAA) - 17-7 (.708)/.570/4-6 
18. UW-Stout (West, WIAC) - 19-6 (.790)/.536/1-4
19. Thomas More (Great Lakes, PrAC) - 21-3 (.875)/.499/1-2   
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20. Concordia-Tx (South, ASC) - 18-4 (.818)/.514/2-2
21. Scranton (Mid-Atlantic, LAND) - 19-7 (.731)/.530/3-1
22. Salisbury (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) – 16-5 (.762)/.521/3-4
23. Richard Stockton (Atlantic, NJAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.537/1-5
24. Eastern Connecticut (Northeast, LEC) - 19-4 (.826)/.499/1-2
25. Tufts (Northeast, NESCAC) – 16-5 (.762)/.524/0-5
26. SUNY-Purchase (Atlantic, Sky) - 20-5 (.800)/.498/1-2
27. Augustana (Midwest, CCIW) - 17-7 (.708)/.548/1-7
28. Concordia-Moorhead (West, MIAC) - 18-6 (.750)/.507/2-2
29. Augsburg (West, MIAC) - 20-6 (.769)/.505/1-3
30. Whitman (West, NWC) - 15-6 (.714)/.540/2-2
31. Ithaca (East, E8) - 16-8 (.667)/.537/2-4
32. Texas-Dallas (South, ASC) - 19-6 (.760)/.511/0-3
33. Oswego State (East, SUNYAC) – 19-7 (.731)/.501/2-5
34. Randolph (South, ODAC) - 14-5 (.737)/.502/2-3

Top "Bubble Bursters" (presumed Pool As that would be competitive in Pool C)
1. Amherst (Northeast, NESCAC) - 23-2 (.920)/.574/7-1
2. St. Thomas (West, MIAC) - 24-1 (.960)/.540/6-1
3. UW-Stevens Point (West, WIAC) - 21-4 (.840)/.586/7-2.
4. Rochester (East, UAA) - 20-3 (.870)/.572/7-2 
5. WPI (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 23-2 (.920)/.561/4-2
6. Virginia Wesleyan (South, ODAC) - 16-5 (.762)/.549/7-3
7. Illinois Wesleyan (Midwest, CCIW) - 18-4 (.818)/.539/5-3
8. Alvernia (Mid-Atlantic, MACC) - 22-4 (.846)/.549/4-2
9. Rhode Island (Northeast, LEC) - 23-3 (.885)/.530/3-3
10. Wooster (Great Lakes, NCAC) -21-4 (.840)/.554/3-1
11. Whitworth (West, NWC) - 21-3 (.875)/.526/2-2
12. Mary Hardin-Baylor (South, ASC) - 21-4 (.840)/.533/3-2
13. St. Mary's (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) - 17-3 (.850)/.531/4-3
14. Cortland St. (East, SUNYAC) - 21-3 (.875)/.514/4-3
15. Ramapo (Atlantic, NJAC) - 20-3 (.870)/.517/3-1
16. Stevens (East, E8) - 19-4 (.826)/.533/3-2
17. Catholic (Mid-Atlantic, LAND) - 20-3 (.870)/.520/2-2
18. Rose-Hulman (Midwest, HCAC) - 21-3 (.875)/.505/1-1
19. St. Vincent (Great Lakes, PrAC) - 19-3 (.864)/.495/1-1
20. Capital (Great Lakes, OAC) - 19-4 (.826)/.487/1-2
21. Calvin (Great Lakes, MIAA) - 18-1 (.947)/.441/0-0
22. SUNY-Old Westbury (Atlantic, Sky) - 21-2 (.913)/.491/2-1
23. St. Norbert (Midwest, MWC) - 18-5 (.783)/.534/1-2
24. Christopher Newport (South, USAC) - 17-5 (.773)/.535/0-2
25. Buena Vista (West, IIAC) - 18-6 (.750)/.561/1-2
26. Hobart (East, LL) - 19-6 (.760)/.538/0-4
27. Franklin & Marshall (Mid-Atlantic, CC) – 16-5 (.762)/.518/2-2


Let me know if you find Pool A vs Pool C issues, errors in data, or if something looks out of whack.

Greek Tragedy

Quote from: Titan Q on February 21, 2013, 02:07:26 PM
Let me know if you find Pool A vs Pool C issues, errors in data, or if something looks out of whack.

Whitney Houston once said, "Crack is whack"

BTW, great work. 
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 21, 2013, 05:49:10 AM


                                                      
   MW                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   1      1      1      IllinoisWesleyan      CCIW      18-3 (.857)      0.539       5-2      LOST at North Central 87-83 OT; vs. Augustana in semis 2/22   
   4      2      2      Washington U.      UAA      18-5 (.783)      0.567       6-4      vs. Chicago 2/23   
   3      3      3      Wheaton(IL)      CCIW      16-5 (.762)      0.568       4-3      WON at Elmhurst 70-55; vs. North Central in semis 2/22   
   5      4      4      NorthCentral(IL)      CCIW      19-3 (.864)      0.528       3-2      BEAT Illinois Wesleyan 87-83 OT; vs Wheaton in semis 2/22   
   2      5      5      Transylvania      HCAC      18-5 (.783)      0.542       3-1      BEAT Mount St. Joseph 75-57; vs. Hanover in semis 2/22   
   6      6      6      RoseHulman      HCAC      21-3 (.875)      0.505       1-1      vs. Defiance in semis 2/22   
   8      8      7      St.Norbert      MWC      18-5 (.783)      0.534       1-2      vs. Ripon in semis 2/22   
   7      7      8      Augustana       CCIW      16-7 (.696)      0.548       1-7      BEAT Millikin 64-51; at Illinois Wesleyan in semis 2/22   
                                                      
   NE                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   2      2      1      Amherst      NESCAC      23-2 (.920)      0.574       6-1      vs. Tufts in semis 2/23   
   1      1      2      WPI      NEWMAC      23-2 (.920)      0.561       4-2      vs. TBA in semis 2/23   
   3      3      3      Williams      NESCAC      20-3 (.870)      0.556       3-3      vs. Middlebury in semis 2/23   
   5      5      4      RIC       LEC      22-3 (.880)      0.53       3-3      BEAT Mass.-Dartmouth 62-58; vs. Southern Maine in semis 2/22   
   4      4      5      Middlebury      NESCAC      19-2 (.905)      0.536       1-2      vs. Williams in semis 2/23   
   7      6      6      MIT      NEWMAC       19-4 (.826)      0.552       3-3      vs. Springfield in semis 2/23   
   10      8      7      Springfield      NEWMAC      18-7 (.720)      0.561       3-5      at MIT in semis 2/23   
   6      7      8      Brandeis      UAA      17-7 (.708)      0.57       3-6      at NYU 2/23   
   8      9      9      Curry      CCC      18-7 (.720)      0.547       0-4      BEAT Western New England 76-54; vs. Eastern Nazerene in semis 2/21   
   9      10      10      Westfield St.      MASCAC      19-4 (.826)      0.500       1-0      vs. Fitchburg State in semis 2/21   
   11      11      11      Eastern Conn. St.      LEC      18-4 (.818)      0.499       1-1      BEAT West. Conn 65-54; vs. Keene State in semis 2/22   
   NR      NR      12      Tufts      NESCAC      16-5 (.762)      0.524       0-5      vs. Amherst in semis 2/23   
                                                      
                     DROPPING OUT                                 
   12      12      NR      Albertus Magnus      GNAC      21-3 (.875)      0.441       0-0      BEAT Rivier 84-65; vs. Johnson and Wales in semis 2/21   
                                                      
   SOUTH                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   6      4      1      Vir. Wes.      ODAC      16-5 (.762)      0.549       7-2      vs. Eastern Mennonite in quarters 2/22   
   1      1      2      Ham-Syd      ODAC      18-3 (.857)      0.507       4-2      vs. Roanoke in quarters 2/22   
   2      2      3      MHB      ASC      21-4 (.840)      0.533       3-2      vs. LeTourneau in quarters 2/22   
   3      6      4      Chris Newport      USAC      17-5 (.773)      0.535       0-2      vs. Averett in quarters 2/21   
   5      3      5      Emory      UAA      17-6 (.739)      0.557       4-4      BEAT Covenant 75-50; vs. Rochester 2/23   
   4      5      6      Concordia (TX)      ASC      18-4 (.818)      0.514       2-2      vs. Mississippi College in quarters 2/22   
   NR      8      7      Texas-Dallas      ASC      19-6 (.760)      0.511       0-3      vs. Schreiner in quarters 2/22   
   NR      7      8      Randolph      ODAC      14-5 (.737)      0.502       2-3      vs. Lynchburg in quarters 2/22   
                                                      
                     DROPPING OUT                                 
   7      NR      NR      Lynchburg      ODAC      14-7 (.667)      0.492       1-5      BEAT Shenandoah 90-65; vs. Randolph in quarters 2/22   
   8      NR      NR      Guilford      ODAC      14-8 (.636)      0.520       2-5      BEAT Emory & Henry 70-60; vs. Randolph-Macon in quarters 2/22   
                                                      
   WEST                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   1      1      1      St. Thomas      MIAC      24-1 (.960)      0.54       6-1      vs. TBA in semis 2/22   
   3      2      2      Stevens Point      WIAC      21-4 (.840)      0.586       7-2      vs. Platteville in semis 2/21.   
   4      3      3      Whitewater      WIAC      20-4 (.833)      0.581       4-3      vs. Stout in semis 2/21.   
   2      4      4      Whitworth      NWC      21-3 (.875)      0.526       2-2      vs. Lewis & Clark in semis 2/21   
   6      5      5      Buena Vista      IIAC      18-6 (.750)      0.561       1-2      vs. Dubuque in semis 2/21   
   5      6      6      Stout      WIAC      18-6 (.750)      0.536       1-4      BEAT Superior 78-64; at Whitewater in semis 2/21   
   9      7      7      Con-Moorhead      MIAC      18-6 (.750)      0.507       2-2      vs. TBA in semis 2/22   
   7      9      8      Augsburg      MIAC      19-6 (.760)      0.505       1-3      BEAT St. John's 74-67; vs. Concordia Moorhead in semis 2/22   
   NR      8      9      Whitman      NWC      15-6 (.714)      0.54       2-2      vs. George Fox in semis 2/21   
                                                      
                     DROPPING OUT                                 
   8      NR      NR      Luther      IIAC      17-5 (.773)      0.512       1-2      vs. Wartburg in semis 2/21   
                                                      

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TGHIJGSTO!!!

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


Down goes Point.

Platteville 60 UWSP 56
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@ryanalanscott just about anywhere

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Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 21, 2013, 09:50:06 PM

Down goes Point.

Platteville 60 UWSP 56

Crazy stuff.

Only a Pool C impact if UW-Whitewater does not win the WIAC.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


Whitewater 63, Stout 59.


Plateville vs Whitewater for the WIAC.
Lead Columnist for D3hoops.com
@ryanalanscott just about anywhere