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KnightSlappy

Quote from: Titan Q on February 21, 2013, 11:18:59 PM
Updated through Thursday 2/21.  Notes about the data...

* In-region record is through Thursday 2/21
* SOS is through Sun 2/17 (from data sheets)
* Results vs regionally ranked is through Thursday 2/21


Pool C projection
1. Williams (Northeast, NESCAC) - 20-3 (.870)/.556/4-3
2. UW-Stevens Point (West, WIAC) - 21-5 (.808)/.586/7-2
3. Washington U. (Midwest, UAA) - 18-5 (.783)/.567/6-4
4. Wheaton (Midwest, CCIW) - 17-5 (.773)/.568/4-3
5. Middlebury (Northeast, NESCAC) - 19-2 (.905)/.536/2-2
6. North Central (Midwest, CCIW) - 20-3 (.870)/.528/4-2
7. MIT (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 19-4 (.826)/.552/4-3 
8. Hampden-Sydney (South, ODAC) - 18-3 (.857)/.507/4-2
9. Emory (South, UAA) - 18-6 (.750)/.557/4-4
10. Transylvania (Midwest, HCAC) - 19-5 (.792)/.542/3-1
11. Ohio Wesleyan (Great Lakes, NCAC) - 20-4 (.833)/.537/2-2
12. Albright (Mid-Atlantic, MACC) - 20-6 (.769)/.544/3-1
13. Wesley (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) - 17-3 (.850)/.508/5-2 
14. Plattsburgh State (East, SUNYAC) - 18-6 (.750)/.545/4-4
15. Springfield (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 18-7 (.720)/.561/3-5
16. Rutgers-Newark (Atlantic, NJAC) - 19-6 (.760)/.534/3-3
17. Brandeis (Northeast, UAA) - 17-7 (.708)/.570/4-6 
18. Thomas More (Great Lakes, PrAC) - 22-3 (.880)/.499/1-2   
19. Concordia-Tx (South, ASC) - 18-4 (.818)/.514/2-2
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20. Scranton (Mid-Atlantic, LAND) - 19-7 (.731)/.530/3-1
21. UW-Stout (West, WIAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.536/1-5
22. Salisbury (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) – 16-6 (.727)/.521/3-5
23. Richard Stockton (Atlantic, NJAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.537/1-5
24. Eastern Connecticut (Northeast, LEC) - 19-4 (.826)/.499/1-2
25. Tufts (Northeast, NESCAC) – 16-5 (.762)/.524/0-5
26. SUNY-Purchase (Atlantic, Sky) - 21-5 (.808)/.498/1-2
27. Capital (Great Lakes, OAC) - 19-5 (.792)/.487/1-2
28. Augustana (Midwest, CCIW) - 17-7 (.708)/.548/1-7
29. Concordia-Moorhead (West, MIAC) - 18-6 (.750)/.507/2-2
30. Augsburg (West, MIAC) - 20-6 (.769)/.505/1-3
31. Whitman (West, NWC) - 15-6 (.714)/.540/2-2 *game in progress*
32. Ithaca (East, E8) - 16-8 (.667)/.537/2-4
33. Texas-Dallas (South, ASC) - 19-6 (.760)/.511/0-3
34. Oswego State (East, SUNYAC) – 19-7 (.731)/.501/2-5
35. Randolph (South, ODAC) - 14-5 (.737)/.502/2-3

Top "Bubble Bursters" (presumed Pool As that would be competitive in Pool C)
1. Amherst (Northeast, NESCAC) - 23-2 (.920)/.574/7-1
2. St. Thomas (West, MIAC) - 24-1 (.960)/.540/6-1
3. Rochester (East, UAA) - 20-3 (.870)/.572/7-2 
4. UW-Whitewater (West, WIAC) - 21-4 (.840)/.581/5-3
5. WPI (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 23-2 (.920)/.561/4-2
6. Virginia Wesleyan (South, ODAC) - 16-5 (.762)/.549/7-3
7. Illinois Wesleyan (Midwest, CCIW) - 18-4 (.818)/.539/5-3
8. Alvernia (Mid-Atlantic, MACC) - 22-4 (.846)/.549/4-2
9. Rhode Island (Northeast, LEC) - 23-3 (.885)/.530/3-3
10. Wooster (Great Lakes, NCAC) -21-4 (.840)/.554/3-1
11. Whitworth (West, NWC) - 21-3 (.875)/.526/2-2  *game in progress*
12. Mary Hardin-Baylor (South, ASC) - 21-4 (.840)/.533/3-2
13. St. Mary's (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) - 18-3 (.857)/.531/4-3
14. Cortland St. (East, SUNYAC) - 21-3 (.875)/.514/4-3
15. Ramapo (Atlantic, NJAC) - 20-3 (.870)/.517/3-1
16. Stevens (East, E8) - 19-4 (.826)/.533/3-2
17. Catholic (Mid-Atlantic, LAND) - 20-3 (.870)/.520/2-2
18. Rose-Hulman (Midwest, HCAC) - 21-3 (.875)/.505/1-1
19. St. Vincent (Great Lakes, PrAC) - 20-3 (.870)/.495/1-1
20. Calvin (Great Lakes, MIAA) - 19-1 (.950)/.441/0-0
21. SUNY-Old Westbury (Atlantic, Sky) - 21-3 (.875)/.491/2-1
22. St. Norbert (Midwest, MWC) - 18-5 (.783)/.534/1-2
23. Christopher Newport (South, USAC) - 18-5 (.783)/.535/0-2
24. Buena Vista (West, IIAC) - 18-6 (.750)/.561/1-2
25. Hobart (East, LL) - 19-6 (.760)/.538/0-4
26. Franklin & Marshall (Mid-Atlantic, CC) – 16-5 (.762)/.518/2-2


Let me know if you find Pool A vs Pool C issues, errors in data, or if something looks out of whack.

Are you only including ranked teams? Seems to me that Hope should be in your top 35 Pool C mix. I think they'll be ahead of Capital in the GL even if they lose to Calvin in the MIAA finals.

Titan Q

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 21, 2013, 11:39:28 PM
Are you only including ranked teams? Seems to me that Hope should be in your top 35 Pool C mix. I think they'll be ahead of Capital in the GL even if they lose to Calvin in the MIAA finals.

Yes, I've only been including regionally ranked teams (teams appearing in at least 1 of the 3 rankings).  But I went back and added Hope...and actually have them #20.

Interesting.

KnightSlappy

SUNY-Old Westbury lost today so they move to the Pool C side of things.

KnightSlappy

Quote from: Titan Q on February 21, 2013, 11:53:37 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 21, 2013, 11:39:28 PM
Are you only including ranked teams? Seems to me that Hope should be in your top 35 Pool C mix. I think they'll be ahead of Capital in the GL even if they lose to Calvin in the MIAA finals.

Yes, I've only been including regionally ranked teams (teams appearing in at least 1 of the 3 rankings).  But I went back and added Hope...and actually have them #20.

Interesting.

Where would you be slotting Calvin right now if they were a C? And how would that change if they end up getting a 1-2 vRRO from Hope getting ranked?

Titan Q

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 21, 2013, 11:57:13 PM
SUNY-Old Westbury lost today so they move to the Pool C side of things.

Just added...I have them right on the bubble.

KnightSlappy

#4430
My kind of funky equation is saying this:

UW-Stevens Point
Williams
Washington U.
Middlebury
North Central (Ill.)
MIT
Wesley
Wheaton (Ill.)
Brandeis
Hampden-Sydney
Ohio Wesleyan
Emory
Plattsburgh State
Transylvania
UW-Platteville
Springfield
Albright
SUNY-Old Westbury
Thomas More
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Randolph-Macon
Rutgers-Newark
Concordia (Texas)
Richard Stockton
UW-Stout

Though I doubt UW-Platteville and Randolph-Macon would be considered so highly by the committee.

Also should be noted that we're mixing teams that are done with teams that are yet to lose.

Titan Q

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 21, 2013, 11:59:15 PM

Where would you be slotting Calvin right now if they were a C? And how would that change if they end up getting a 1-2 vRRO from Hope getting ranked?

Here is the tough thing.  Every time I do my list, I want to have Calvin higher on the "bubble burster" list...maybe at about 5 spots higher.  But because of the regional rankings, I can't move Calvin higher than St. Vincent...and I like where I have St. Vincent.

If Calvin got that 1-2 vs RR I think they'd move into the #4-spot in the Great Lakes, and I'd have them safely in Pool C.  Maybe in the 13-14 range.

Titan Q

#4432
Updated through Thursday 2/21.  Notes about the data...

* In-region record is through Thursday 2/21
* SOS is through Sun 2/17 (from data sheets)
* Results vs regionally ranked is through Thursday 2/21


Pool C projection
1. Williams (Northeast, NESCAC) - 20-3 (.870)/.556/4-3
2. UW-Stevens Point (West, WIAC) - 21-5 (.808)/.586/7-2
3. Washington U. (Midwest, UAA) - 18-5 (.783)/.567/6-4
4. Wheaton (Midwest, CCIW) - 17-5 (.773)/.568/4-3
5. Middlebury (Northeast, NESCAC) - 19-2 (.905)/.536/2-2
6. North Central (Midwest, CCIW) - 20-3 (.870)/.528/4-2
7. MIT (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 19-4 (.826)/.552/4-3 
8. Hampden-Sydney (South, ODAC) - 18-3 (.857)/.507/4-2
9. Emory (South, UAA) - 18-6 (.750)/.557/4-4
10. Transylvania (Midwest, HCAC) - 19-5 (.792)/.542/3-1
11. Ohio Wesleyan (Great Lakes, NCAC) - 20-4 (.833)/.537/2-2
12. Albright (Mid-Atlantic, MACC) - 20-6 (.769)/.544/3-1
13. Wesley (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) - 17-3 (.850)/.508/5-2 
14. Plattsburgh State (East, SUNYAC) - 18-6 (.750)/.545/4-4
15. Springfield (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 18-7 (.720)/.561/3-5
16. Rutgers-Newark (Atlantic, NJAC) - 19-6 (.760)/.534/3-3
17. Brandeis (Northeast, UAA) - 17-7 (.708)/.570/4-6 
18. Thomas More (Great Lakes, PrAC) - 22-3 (.880)/.499/1-2   
19. Concordia-Tx (South, ASC) - 18-4 (.818)/.514/2-2
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20. SUNY-Old Westbury (Atlantic, Sky) - 21-3 (.875)/.491/2-1
21. Hope (Great Lakes, MIAA) - 15-5 (.750)/.533/1-3  not currently ranked in the GL
22. Scranton (Mid-Atlantic, LAND) - 19-7 (.731)/.530/3-1
23. UW-Stout (West, WIAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.536/1-5
24. Salisbury (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) – 16-6 (.727)/.521/3-5
25. Richard Stockton (Atlantic, NJAC) - 19-7 (.731)/.537/1-5
26. Eastern Connecticut (Northeast, LEC) - 19-4 (.826)/.499/1-2
27. Tufts (Northeast, NESCAC) – 16-5 (.762)/.524/0-5
28. SUNY-Purchase (Atlantic, Sky) - 21-5 (.808)/.498/1-2
29. Capital (Great Lakes, OAC) - 19-5 (.792)/.487/1-2
30. Whitman (West, NWC) - 16-6 (.727)/.540/2-2
31. Augustana (Midwest, CCIW) - 17-7 (.708)/.548/1-7
32. Concordia-Moorhead (West, MIAC) - 18-6 (.750)/.507/2-2
33. Augsburg (West, MIAC) - 20-6 (.769)/.505/1-3
34. Ithaca (East, E8) - 16-8 (.667)/.537/2-4
35. Texas-Dallas (South, ASC) - 19-6 (.760)/.511/0-3
36. Oswego State (East, SUNYAC) – 19-7 (.731)/.501/2-5
37. Randolph (South, ODAC) - 14-5 (.737)/.502/2-3

Top "Bubble Bursters" (presumed Pool As that would be competitive in Pool C)
Would definitely fit in the top 19 above...
1. Amherst (Northeast, NESCAC) - 23-2 (.920)/.574/7-1
2. St. Thomas (West, MIAC) - 24-1 (.960)/.540/6-1
3. Rochester (East, UAA) - 20-3 (.870)/.572/7-2 
4. UW-Whitewater (West, WIAC) - 21-4 (.840)/.581/5-3
5. WPI (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 23-2 (.920)/.561/4-2
6. Virginia Wesleyan (South, ODAC) - 16-5 (.762)/.549/7-3
7. Illinois Wesleyan (Midwest, CCIW) - 18-4 (.818)/.539/5-3
8. Alvernia (Mid-Atlantic, MACC) - 22-4 (.846)/.549/4-2
9. Rhode Island (Northeast, LEC) - 23-3 (.885)/.530/3-3
10. Wooster (Great Lakes, NCAC) -21-4 (.840)/.554/3-1
11. Whitworth (West, NWC) - 22-3 (.880)/.526/2-2 
12. Mary Hardin-Baylor (South, ASC) - 21-4 (.840)/.533/3-2
13. St. Mary's (Mid-Atlantic, CAC) - 18-3 (.857)/.531/4-3
14. Cortland St. (East, SUNYAC) - 21-3 (.875)/.514/4-3
15. Ramapo (Atlantic, NJAC) - 20-3 (.870)/.517/3-1
16. Stevens (East, E8) - 19-4 (.826)/.533/3-2
17. Catholic (Mid-Atlantic, LAND) - 20-3 (.870)/.520/2-2

Would fit right at the end of the bubble (near spot 19)...
18. Rose-Hulman (Midwest, HCAC) - 21-3 (.875)/.505/1-1
19. St. Vincent (Great Lakes, PrAC) - 20-3 (.870)/.495/1-1
20. Calvin (Great Lakes, MIAA) - 19-1 (.950)/.441/0-0

Would be outside the top 19...
21. St. Norbert (Midwest, MWC) - 18-5 (.783)/.534/1-2
22. Christopher Newport (South, USAC) - 18-5 (.783)/.535/0-2
23. Buena Vista (West, IIAC) - 18-6 (.750)/.561/1-2
24. Hobart (East, LL) - 19-6 (.760)/.538/0-4
25. Franklin & Marshall (Mid-Atlantic, CC) – 16-5 (.762)/.518/2-2


Let me know if you find Pool A vs Pool C issues, errors in data, or if something looks out of whack.

Greek Tragedy

RESULTS THROUGH THURSDAY

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 22, 2013, 05:45:42 AM
I HAVE ADJUSTED THE REGIONAL RECORD AND THE vRRO FOR ONLY TEAMS THAT HAVE THEIR SEASONS COMPLETE.  IF THEY ARE STILL PLAYING, I HAVE NOT ADJUSTED THEIR RECORDS.




   ATL                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   1      2      1      Ramapo      NJAC      19-3       0.517       3-1      BEAT William Paterson 83-58; vs. Rutgers-Newark in  Final 2/22   
   2      1      2      Old.Westbury      SKY      21-3      0.491       2-1      LOST to Farmingdale State 81-69 in semis SEASON COMPLETE   
   5      3      3      Rutgers.Newark      NJAC      18-6       0.534       2-3      BEAT Richard Stockton 49-46; vs. Ramapo in Final 2/22   
   4      4      4      RicardStockton      NJAC      19-7      0.537       1-5      LOST at Rutgers-Newark 49-46 in semis SEASON COMPLETE   
   3      5      5      SUNYPurchase      SKY      20-5       0.498       1-2      BEATMount St. Mary 57-48; vs. Farmingdale State in Final 2/23   
                                                      
   EAST                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   1      1      1      Rochester      UAA      20-3       0.572       7-2      at Emory 2/23   
   2      2      2      SUNY.Cortland      SUNYAC      21-3       0.514       3-2      vs. Oswego St. in semis 2/22   
   3      3      3      Stevens      E8      19-4       0.533       3-2      vs. Utica in semis 2/22   
   NR      5      4      Plattsburgh.State      SUNYAC      18-6       0.545       2-4      vs. Geneseo State in semis 2/22   
   5      4      5      Hobart      LL      18-6       0.538       0-4      BEATSkidmore 77-72; vs. RPI in Final 2/23   
   NR      NR      6      Oswego.State      SUNYAC      18-7       0.501       2-5      BEAT Brockport St. 78-66; vs. Cortland St. in semis 2/22   
                                                      
                     DROPPING OUT                                 
   NR      6      NR      Ithaca      E8      15-8       0.537       2-3      vs. Fisher in E8 semis 2/22   
   4      NR      NR      NYU      UAA      14-10       0.58       6-5      vs. Brandeis 2/23   
   6      NR      NR      SUNY.Geneseo      SUNYAC      16-8       0.523       2-3      BEAT New Paltz St. 98-80; vs. Plattsburgh St. in semis 2/22   
                                                      
   GT LK                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   1      1      1      Wooster      NCAC      20-4       0.554       3-1      BEAT Oberlin 74-47; vs. Wittenberg in semis 2/22   
   2      2      2      Ohio.Wesleyan      NCAC      19-4       0.537       2-2      BEAT Denison 77-56; vs. Kenyon in semis 2/22   
   5      5      3      St.Vincent      PrAC      18-3       0.495       1-1      BEAT Waynesburg 72-62; BEAT  Washington and Jefferson 85-75; vs. Thomas More in Final 2/23   
   3      3      4      Thomas.More      PrAC      20-3       0.499       1-2      BEAT Geneva 82-60; BEAT Thiel 86-80; vs. St. Vincent in Final 2/23   
   NR      4      5      Capital      OAC      19-5      0.487       1-2      LOST Mount Union 63-59 in semis SEASON COMPLETE   
   4      6      6      Calvin      MIAA      18-1       0.441       0-0       BEAT  Adrian 71-44; vs. Hope in Final 2/23   
                                                      
                     DROPPING OUT                                 
   6      NR      NR      Marietta      OAC      18-7       0.500       1-3       BEAT   Wilmington 111-106 3 OT; vs. Mount Union in Final 2/23   
                                                      
   MID-ATL                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   4      1      1      Alvernia      MACC      21-4       0.549       4-2      BEAT Arcadia 69-66; vs. Lycoming in Final 2/23   
   1      2      2      Catholic      LAND      19-3       0.528       2-2      BEAT Merchant Marine 65-57; vs. Juniata in Final 2/23   
   2      4      3      Albright      MACC      20-6      0.546       3-1      LOST to Lycoming 80-78 SEASON COMPLETE   
   3      3      4      St.Mary's(Md.)      CAC      17-3       0.531       3-2      BEAT  Mary Washington 89-81; vs. Wesley in Final 2/23   
   5      5      5      Wesley      CAC      16-3       0.508       3-1      BEAT   Salisbury 73-66; vs. St. Mary's in Final 2/23   
   6      6      6      Scranton      LAND      19-7      0.530       3-1       LOST to Juniata 84-74 2OT  SEASON COMPLETE   
   NR      8      7      DeSales      MACF      19-5       0.493       1-1      BEAT Fairleigh Dickinson 59-57; vs. Delaware Valley in Final 2/23   
   NR      NR      8      Salisbury       CAC      15-6      0.521       3-5      BEAT York (Pa) 80-60; LOST at Wesley 73-66 in semis   SEASON COMPLETE     
   9      NR      9      Frank&Marsh      CC      16-5       0.518       2-2      vs. Muhlenberg in semis 2/22   
                                                      
                     DROPPING OUT                                 
   8      7      NR      Cabrini      CSAC      18-4       0.473       0-2      BEAT Neumann 90-77; at Keystone in Final 2/22   
   NR      9      NR      Dickinson      CC      16-7      0.513       2-1      vs. Johns Hopkins in semis 2/22   
   7      NR      NR      Arcadia      MACC      15-9      0.558       1-5      BEAT Stevenson 85-83; LOST at Alvernia 69-66 SEASON COMPLETE   
                                                      
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RESULTS THROUGH THURSDAY

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 22, 2013, 05:47:07 AM
I HAVE ADJUSTED THE REGIONAL RECORD AND THE vRRO FOR ONLY TEAMS THAT HAVE THEIR SEASONS COMPLETE.  IF THEY ARE STILL PLAYING, I HAVE NOT ADJUSTED THEIR RECORDS.




                                                      
   MW                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   1      1      1      Illinois.Wesleyan      CCIW      18-3      0.539       5-2      LOST at North Central 87-83 OT; vs. Augustana in semis 2/22   
   4      2      2      WashingtonU.      UAA      18-5      0.567       6-4      vs. Chicago 2/23   
   3      3      3      Wheaton.(IL)      CCIW      16-5      0.568       4-3      BEAT at Elmhurst 70-55; vs. North Central in semis 2/22   
   5      4      4      North Central.(IL)      CCIW      19-3      0.528       3-2      BEAT Illinois Wesleyan 87-83 OT; vs Wheaton in semis 2/22   
   2      5      5      Transylvania      HCAC      18-5      0.542       3-1      BEAT Mount St. Joseph 75-57; vs. Hanover in semis 2/22   
   6      6      6      Rose.Hulman      HCAC      21-3      0.505       1-1      vs. Defiance in semis 2/22   
   8      8      7      St.Norbert      MWC      18-5      0.534       1-2      vs. Ripon in semis 2/22   
   7      7      8      Augustana       CCIW      16-7      0.548       1-7      BEAT Millikin 64-51; at Illinois Wesleyan in semis 2/22   
                                                      
   NE                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   2      2      1      Amherst      NESCAC      23-2      0.574       6-1      vs. Tufts in semis 2/23   
   1      1      2      WPI      NEWMAC      23-2      0.561       4-2      vs. TBA in semis 2/23   
   3      3      3      Williams      NESCAC      20-3      0.556       3-3      vs. Middlebury in semis 2/23   
   5      5      4      RIC       LEC      22-3      0.53       3-3      BEAT Mass.-Dartmouth 62-58; vs. Southern Maine in semis 2/22   
   4      4      5      Middlebury      NESCAC      19-2      0.536       1-2      vs. Williams in semis 2/23   
   7      6      6      MIT      NEWMAC      19-4      0.552       3-3      vs. Springfield in semis 2/23   
   10      8      7      Springfield      NEWMAC      18-7      0.561       3-5      at MIT in semis 2/23   
   6      7      8      Brandeis      UAA      17-7      0.57       3-6      at NYU 2/23   
   8      9      9      Curry      CCC      18-7      0.547       0-4      BEAT Western New England 76-54;  BEAT Eastern Nazerene 82-76; vs. Gordon in Final 2/23   
   9      10      10      Westfield State      MASCAC      19-5      0.500       1-0      LOST to Fitchburg State 68-61 in semis  SEASON COMPLETE   
   11      11      11      East.Conn.State      LEC      18-4      0.499       1-1      BEAT West. Conn 65-54; vs. Keene State in semis 2/22   
   NR      NR      12      Tufts      NESCAC      16-5      0.524       0-5      vs. Amherst in semis 2/23   
                                                      
                     DROPPING OUT                                 
   12      12      NR      Albertus.Magnus      GNAC      21-3      0.441       0-0      BEAT Rivier 84-65; BEAT Johnson and Wales 104-77; vs. Anna Maria in Final 2/23   
                                                      
   SOUTH                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   6      4      1      Virginia.Wesleyan      ODAC      16-5      0.549       7-2      vs. Eastern Mennonite in quarters 2/22   
   1      1      2      Hampden.Sydney      ODAC      18-3      0.507       4-2      vs. Roanoke in quarters 2/22   
   2      2      3      MHB      ASC      21-4      0.533       3-2      vs. LeTourneau in quarters 2/22   
   3      6      4      Chris.Newport      USAC      17-5      0.535       0-2       BEAT Averett 74-58; vs. North Carolina Wesleyan in semis 2/22   
   5      3      5      Emory      UAA      17-6      0.557       4-4      BEAT Covenant 75-50; vs. Rochester 2/23   
   4      5      6      Concordia(TX)      ASC      18-4      0.514       2-2      vs. Mississippi College in quarters 2/22   
   NR      8      7      Texas.Dallas      ASC      19-6      0.511       0-3      vs. Schreiner in quarters 2/22   
   NR      7      8      Randolph      ODAC      14-5      0.502       2-3      vs. Lynchburg in quarters 2/22   
                                                      
                     DROPPING OUT                                 
   7      NR      NR      Lynchburg      ODAC      14-7      0.492       1-5      BEAT Shenandoah 90-65; vs. Randolph in quarters 2/22   
   8      NR      NR      Guilford      ODAC      14-8      0.520       2-5      BEAT Emory & Henry 70-60; vs. Randolph-Macon in quarters 2/22   
                                                      
   WEST                                                   
   RNK1      RNK2      RNK3      TEAM      CONF.      REG/WIN%      SOS      vRRO      SCHEDULE   
   1      1      1      St.Thomas      MIAC      24-1      0.540       6-1      vs. Carleton in semis 2/22   
   3      2      2      Stevens.Point      WIAC      21-5      0.586       7-2      LOST to Platteville 60-56 in semis  SEASON COMPLETE   
   4      3      3      Whitewater      WIAC      20-4      0.581       4-3      BEAT Stout 64-59; vs. Platteville in Final 2/23   
   2      4      4      Whitworth      NWC      21-3      0.526       2-2      BEAT Lewis & Clark 74-69; vs. Whitman in Final 2/23   
   6      5      5      Buena.Vista      IIAC      18-6      0.561       1-2      vs. Dubuque in semis 2/22   
   5      6      6      Stout      WIAC      18-7      0.536       1-5      BEAT Superior 78-64; LOST at Whitewater 64-59 in semis SEASON COMPLETE   
   9      7      7      Con.Moorhead      MIAC      18-6      0.507       2-2      vs. Augsburg in semis 2/22   
   7      9      8      Augsburg      MIAC      19-6      0.505       1-3      BEAT St. John's 74-67; vs. Concordia Moorhead in semis 2/22   
   NR      8      9      Whitman      NWC      15-6      0.540       2-2       BEAT George Fox 90-78; vs. Whitworth in Final 2/23   
                                                      
                     DROPPING OUT                                 
   8      NR      NR      Luther      IIAC      17-5      0.512       1-2      vs. Wartburg in semis 2/22   
                                                      
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#4435
Quote from: Titan Q on February 22, 2013, 12:06:31 AM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 21, 2013, 11:59:15 PM

Where would you be slotting Calvin right now if they were a C? And how would that change if they end up getting a 1-2 vRRO from Hope getting ranked?

Here is the tough thing.  Every time I do my list, I want to have Calvin higher on the "bubble burster" list...maybe at about 5 spots higher.  But because of the regional rankings, I can't move Calvin higher than St. Vincent...and I like where I have St. Vincent.

If Calvin got that 1-2 vs RR I think they'd move into the #4-spot in the Great Lakes, and I'd have them safely in Pool C.  Maybe in the 13-14 range.

If Hope beats Calvin tomorrow night, they (i.e. Hope) will certainly be ranked in the Great Lakes (they have a good chance of being ranked even if they lose). So, when it comes to possible Pool C consideration for Calvin, I think we'll want to include a 1-2 vRRO. Of course, Calvin will win tomorrow night so this is all academic.  :)

wally_wabash

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 22, 2013, 09:30:02 AM
Quote from: Titan Q on February 22, 2013, 12:06:31 AM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 21, 2013, 11:59:15 PM

Where would you be slotting Calvin right now if they were a C? And how would that change if they end up getting a 1-2 vRRO from Hope getting ranked?

Here is the tough thing.  Every time I do my list, I want to have Calvin higher on the "bubble burster" list...maybe at about 5 spots higher.  But because of the regional rankings, I can't move Calvin higher than St. Vincent...and I like where I have St. Vincent.

If Calvin got that 1-2 vs RR I think they'd move into the #4-spot in the Great Lakes, and I'd have them safely in Pool C.  Maybe in the 13-14 range.

If Hope beats Calvin tomorrow night, they (i.e. Hope) will certainly be ranked in the Great Lakes (they have a good chance of being ranked even if they lose). So, when it comes to possible Pool C consideration for Calvin, I think we'll want to include a 1-2 vRRO. Of course, Calvin will win tomorrow night so this is all academic.  :)

Calvin can get RRO results and wind up looking better for selection and seeding but probably only if they lose tomorrow.  How asinine is that?  I really just can't get over how badly the GL RAC has bungled the treatment of Calvin. 
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algernon

This is how I see the Pool C bids lining up.  I'm heavily leaning on previous postings from Titan Q and Greek Tragedy.   Let me know what your thoughts are ....

--- NCAA bid seems certain: ----
1.   2nd NESCAC team:  Williams/Amherst/Middlebury
2.   3rd NESCAC team:  Williams/Amherst/Middlebury
3.   2nd NEWMAC team:  MIT/WPI
4.   2nd UAA team:  Rochester/Washington/Emory
5.   3rd UAA team:  Rochester/Washington/Emory
6.   2nd WIAC team:  Stevens Point
7.   2nd CCIW team:  Illinois Wesleyan/Wheaton/North Central
8.   3rd CCIW team:  Illinois Wesleyan/Wheaton/North Central
9.   2nd ODAC team:  Virginia Wesleyan/ Hampden-Sydney
--- Bid seems certain, if no AQ ---------------------------------------------------
10.   Whitewater, if no AQ
11.   St. Thomas, if no AQ
12.   Alvernia, if no AQ
13.   Rhode Island College, if no AQ
14.   Whitworth, if no AQ
15.   Mary Hardin-Baylor, if no AQ
16.   Cortland State, if no AQ
17.   Ramapo, if no AQ
18.   Stevens, if no AQ
19.   Catholic, if no AQ
--- These teams have a solid chance ---------------------------------------------------
20.   2nd HCAC team:  Transylvania/ Rose-Hulman?
21.   2nd NCAC team:  Wooster/Ohio Wesleyan?
22.   2nd CAC team:  Wesley/St. Mary's?
23.   2nd PrAC team: St. Vincent/ Thomas More?
24.   Albright?
25.   Plattsburgh State?
26.   Springfield?
27.   Rutgers-Newark?
28.   Brandeis?
29.   Concordia (TX)?

smedindy

I think Wooster's a lock even if they lose the AQ.
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wally_wabash

#4439
I think you can pretty much lock up a spot for Wooster.  The Scots lost right before the first rankings came out and were still ranked first in the GL. Then they lost again and still wouldn't be budged from that top spot.  It seems Wooster has lapped the field in the GL region according to the committee.  Even if #2 OWU were to beat Wooster in the NCAC tournament, Wooster would still hold a 2-1 season h2h advantage.  All of that is to say that I don't think Wooster can be moved from the top ranking in the GL (and certainly not the highest available at-large team), and would be available immediately for at-large selection and there's just no way that they'd be passed up 19 times. 

OWU isn't quite as sure a thing if they don't win the NCAC tournament, but probably still in decent shape.  Again, given OWU's placement in the GL rankings, they'll be on the board early, if not immediately.  And then it's hard to find 19 teams that would be selected in front of OWU. 
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