Pool C

[Ethelred the Unready]

Maybe this has been addressed elsewhere, but where will the Morrisville/Ramapo game be played?

Nyack College in New York state. And Stevens is playing at Lehman College in New York.

Thanks

[Hugenerd]

Does anyone understand what gave Randolph a leg up on teams like Old Westbury, Brandeis, or Albright?  Very surprising pick.

[sac]

Does anyone understand what gave Randolph a leg up on teams like Old Westbury, Brandeis, or Albright?  Very surprising pick.

I imagine secondary criteria was probably in their favor because I don't see much in the primary that would say hands down Randolph was the pick.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Does anyone understand what gave Randolph a leg up on teams like Old Westbury, Brandeis, or Albright?  Very surprising pick.

I have to assume the 4-5 against regionally ranked opponents, but that doesn't explain why they were ahead of Brandeis or Albright.

Brandeis may have had too many losses.

[Titan Q]

Does anyone understand what gave Randolph a leg up on teams like Old Westbury, Brandeis, or Albright?  Very surprising pick.

So the final round...

(AT) SUNY-Old Westbury (Atlantic, Sky) - 21-3 (.875)/.500/2-1
(E) Oswego St (SUNYAC) - 19-8 (.704)/.518/2-6
(GL) Thomas More (PrAC) - 22-4 (.846)/.512/1-3 
(MA) Albright (MACC) - 20-6 (.769)/.546/3-1
(MW) Augustana (CCIW) - 18-8 (.692)/.553/2-8
(NE) Brandeis (Northeast, UAA) - 17-8 (.680)/.569/4-7 
(S) Randolph (ODAC) - 15-6 (.714)/.520/4-5
(W) Buena Vista (IIAC) - 18-7 (.720)/.563/1-2


Just seems to me that Brandeis would have the edge here if you wanted a high wins vs regionally ranked option.

At this part of the process though - literally pick #19, had to be - it's hard to argue that much.  The pick surprises me, but it's not bad.

[smedindy]

Maybe the ODAC 'rep' got them in over Old Westbury or Albright? Are we sure that it was Randolph who was last in? Could Rutgers-Newark have blocked Old Westbury from the board?

[Mr. Ypsi]

Does anyone understand what gave Randolph a leg up on teams like Old Westbury, Brandeis, or Albright?  Very surprising pick.

Maybe the committee members just wanted a chance to see ODAC POY Colton Hunt (24.7ppg) play!

[Ralph Turner]

Brandeis must have lost it on the final weekend to the Violets!

Imagine Judges' road wins over CWRU and NYU!  Four way-tie at the top of the UAA!

[Hugenerd]

If it were losses, how do you pick Springfield over Randolph then?

Springfield and Brandeis have almost identical resumes:

Springfield (Northeast, NEWMAC) - 19-8 (.704)/.575/4-6
Brandeis (Northeast, UAA) - 17-8 (.680)/.569/4-7 

Maybe they just didn't want to go to the Northeast for 2 of the last 3 picks???

[smedindy]

Of course 19 > 17, as you know. 19-8 looks 'better'.

The lack of a conference tourney may have hurt Brandeis. I think the UAA does it the 'right' way but they lose some data points other conferences have by not having a tourney.

[sac]

Of course 19 > 17, as you know. 19-8 looks 'better'.

The lack of a conference tourney may have hurt Brandeis. I think the UAA does it the 'right' way but they lose some data points other conferences have by not having a tourney.

They gain plenty of data points by being in 5 different regions.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I don't think we're even going to begin to understand Randolph until we hear from the committee.

It just makes no sense.  I would have taken Albright then Brandeis before even considering Randolph.


The only thing I can think is that somehow the final loss dropped Brandeis on the rankings and they weren't even on the table to be considered?

[Hugenerd]

I don't think we're even going to begin to understand Randolph until we hear from the committee.

It just makes no sense.  I would have taken Albright then Brandeis before even considering Randolph.


The only thing I can think is that somehow the final loss dropped Brandeis on the rankings and they weren't even on the table to be considered?

Tufts also lost in their tourney, they would have been the next up.

[Hugenerd]

Of course 19 > 17, as you know. 19-8 looks 'better'.

The lack of a conference tourney may have hurt Brandeis. I think the UAA does it the 'right' way but they lose some data points other conferences have by not having a tourney.

Then again, a 9th loss would have certainly eliminated them.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I don't think we're even going to begin to understand Randolph until we hear from the committee.

It just makes no sense.  I would have taken Albright then Brandeis before even considering Randolph.


The only thing I can think is that somehow the final loss dropped Brandeis on the rankings and they weren't even on the table to be considered?

Tufts also lost in their tourney, they would have been the next up.

Yeah, but they lost to Amherst, right?  That looks a lot better than the Brandeis loss to NYU, then given the difference in regional record by that point.  It's possible.  There's no love loss between the NE region and the UAA; no one is cutting them any slack.