Pool C

[Pat Coleman]

There's just no easy way to do it with the map. All of those leagues have teams in both western and eastern New England. It doesn't work to carve one or two out.

I've been saying that for a couple of years. We're pretty much screwed on that.

Let's move one conference to the East, you pick up all the East in-region teams that weren't before and you still keep all the Northeast Region teams because of administrative region.  It's actually a win for the conference that moves East.

The 70% thing really makes moving a Northeast conference less of a deal than moving the Heartland to me.

They would be in the East on paper, but they wouldn't really be members of the East, you know what I mean? They wouldn't likely play any other East teams in non-conference games. Wouldn't be conducive to a regional ranking, comparing lots of apples with oranges.

[Ralph Turner]

There's just no easy way to do it with the map. All of those leagues have teams in both western and eastern New England. It doesn't work to carve one or two out.

I've been saying that for a couple of years. We're pretty much screwed on that.

Let's move one conference to the East, you pick up all the East in-region teams that weren't before and you still keep all the Northeast Region teams because of administrative region.  It's actually a win for the conference that moves East.

The 70% thing really makes moving a Northeast conference less of a deal than moving the Heartland to me.

They would be in the East on paper, but they wouldn't really be members of the East, you know what I mean? They wouldn't likely play any other East teams in non-conference games. Wouldn't be conducive to a regional ranking, comparing lots of apples with oranges.

Like!, to borrow a facebook term.

New England?  It is what it is! 

UAA? It is what it is!

Those two situations basically manifest the founding principles of D-III:

1)  Regional Nature of the competition
2)  Like minded institutions, regardless of the fact that they may be a three hour plane flight apart.

[Gregory Sager]

New England?  It is what it is! 

Ralph, if you ever get bored with medicine, there's a second career waiting for you at the New England Department of Tourism.

[Ralph Turner]

New England?  It is what it is! 

Ralph, if you ever get bored with medicine, there's a second career waiting for you at the New England Department of Tourism.

Every time I go to New England, I am impressed with how little sunshine there is!

[Greek Tragedy]

Pool C teams just 7-5 against Pool A teams.


WINNERS
Stevens Point
Wheaton
VWU
Plattsburgh St
Wooster
Rochester
Middlebury


LOSERS
Rutgers-Newark
MIT
Stevens
Hampden-Sydney
Springfield

[KnightSlappy]

Pool C teams just 7-5 against Pool A teams.


WINNERS
Stevens Point vs. Northwestern (Minn.)
Wheaton vs. St. Norbert
VWU vs. Delaware Valley
Plattsburgh St vs. Husson
Wooster vs. Penn State-Behrend
Rochester vs. Fitchburg State
Middlebury vs. Curry


LOSERS
Rutgers-Newark vs. Christopher Newport
MIT vs. St. Mary's (Md.)
Stevens vs. Randolph-Macon
Hampden-Sydney vs. Cabrini
Springfield vs. Ithaca

Added opponents and bolded teams that had a good shot at Pool C had they lost their conference championship game.

[Greek Tragedy]

Thanks knihtslappy. Not sure if St. Norbert had any shot at a Pool C bid though. Admittedly, I haven't looked at the comparable numbers lately.

I'm also posting from my phone, so my posts are shorter!

[northb]

I'm also posting from my phone, so my posts are shorter!

First world problem....

[NittanyLion95]

Every time I go to New England, I am impressed with how little sunshine there is!

New England likes to save its sun for the summer...

[Ralph Turner]

Every time I go to New England, I am impressed with how little sunshine there is!

New England likes to save its sun for the summer...

I can remember a pleasant July evening in Waterville ME that had almost as much ambient sunlight as the average Deecember midday in Texas.    And about those towns in ME, to get from New Portland to North New Portland, you have to drive northwest and then southeast?  Or East Wilton is actually mostly north of  plain ol' Wilton.

[Knightstalker]

Every time I go to New England, I am impressed with how little sunshine there is!

New England likes to save its sun for the summer...

I can remember a pleasant July evening in Waterville ME that had almost as much ambient sunlight as the average Deecember midday in Texas.    And about those towns in ME, to get from New Portland to North New Portland, you have to drive northwest and then southeast?  Or East Wilton is actually mostly north of  plain ol' Wilton.

If you want sun in New England it costs extra.

[Greek Tragedy]

That 75% rule kicks in this year, right?

Also, looking at schedules and Hope's schedule lists games at Whitewater and Point as regional while games against Wheaton and Carthage are not regional. I'm not any good at geography, but...uh?

[Flying Dutch Fan]

That 75% rule kicks in this year, right?

Also, looking at schedules and Hope's schedule lists games at Whitewater and Point as regional while games against Wheaton and Carthage are not regional. I'm not any good at geography, but...uh?

Well that's completely messed up - Wheaton is a regional game for Hope, the others - uh no, at least not this year.

[Greek Tragedy]

I'm sure it's just a mistake. I think in the past with that CCIW/MIAA weekend. Wheaton is regional for Hope and Calvin, but Carthage isn't. Illinois and Michigan are same administrative regions, I believe.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

I'm sure it's just a mistake. I think in the past with that CCIW/MIAA weekend. Wheaton is regional for Hope and Calvin, but Carthage isn't. Illinois and Michigan are same administrative regions, I believe.

Nope - Illinois and Michigan are not in the same admin region - but of course Michigan and Puerto Rico are     

So all of the games in the CCIW/MIAA weekend are subject to the distance rule.  Only Hope/Wheaton is under 200 miles and is therefore in region.  Calvin/Wheaton and Hope/Carthage are both between 200 and 210 miles so they are NOT in region.