Pool C

[Titan Q]

New D3hoops.com Top 25...

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/index

1. UW-Stevens Point
2. UW-Whitewater
3. Washington U.
4. Illinois Wesleyan
5. St. Norbert

That would make for quite a tough Central Region.

[John Gleich]

New D3hoops.com Top 25...

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/index

1. UW-Stevens Point
2. UW-Whitewater
3. Washington U.
4. Illinois Wesleyan
5. St. Norbert

That would make for quite a tough Central Region.

Region of Death?

[John Gleich]

1 Washington U. 18-2 18-2
2 Illinois Wesleyan 18-3 18-3
3 Wheaton (Ill.) 16-6 16-6
4 Augustana 16-6 16-6
5 St. Norbert 17-1 18-1
6 Carthage 13-7 14-8
8 Milwaukee School of Engineering 18-4 18-4

Just have to squeeze these two in there, should be no problem.
1 UW-Stevens Point 20-1 20-1
2 UW-Whitewater 19-3 19-3


Imagine what it will look like in years the WIAC has 3 good teams or if Chicago gets back on the national scene.  We've even had years the MWC has had two good teams.

One thing that I find interesting is that there have been some decent rivalries that have developed between WIAC teams and other West region teams (WIAC/NWC challenge, plus games they've played in the past, games like Stevens Point vs. St Thomas).

These games will still "count" as games, insomuch as they're "in-region" (due to the 70% rule, as well as the administrative regions) but they WON'T count for head-to-head and RRO.

I can foresee a shake-up in the scheduling necessitated by the regional shift too, at least to some extent, for the WIAC.

[Titan Q]

One thing that I find interesting is that there have been some decent rivalries that have developed between WIAC teams and other West region teams (WIAC/NWC challenge, plus games they've played in the past, games like Stevens Point vs. St Thomas).

These games will still "count" as games, insomuch as they're "in-region" (due to the 70% rule, as well as the administrative regions) but they WON'T count for head-to-head and RRO.

I can foresee a shake-up in the scheduling necessitated by the regional shift too, at least to some extent, for the WIAC.

A WIAC vs NWC game should count in RRO...right?  Like this year, IWU vs Hope is counted in RRO I believe (with the new rules).  The data sheet says something like "results vs all Division ranked opponents."

[Greek Tragedy]

I'm not sure what John means either...next year?

I would guess WIAC vs NWC games have always counted as RRO simply because they are in our administrative region regardless of that new 70% rule.

[Titan Q]

I'm not sure what John means either...next year?

I would guess WIAC vs NWC games have always counted as RRO simply because they are in our administrative region regardless of that new 70% rule.

He must mean next year, because WIAC vs NWC games have always been "in-region" in the past.  But next year they should still count too...since RRO now spans all regions as far as I know.

[John Gleich]

I'm not sure what John means either...next year?

I would guess WIAC vs NWC games have always counted as RRO simply because they are in our administrative region regardless of that new 70% rule.

He must mean next year, because WIAC vs NWC games have always been "in-region" in the past.  But next year they should still count too...since RRO now spans all regions as far as I know.

I'm sorry, I did mean next year, not this year.

I thought Dave said that RRO didn't count across regions, but maybe I misread him (I think it was related to the other discussion of the RRO elsewhere - or lack thereof in the first ranking).


I was talking about future scheduling, but to your point, those games could/would be just as important across the board.

[sac]

WIAC vs NWC will remain in-region based on the administrative region rule.

[John Gleich]

WIAC vs NWC will remain in-region based on the administrative region rule.

Yes, but I just wasn't sure about the RRO. Still not 100%...

[Pat Coleman]

Those will count, yes.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

You may have seen me confuse myself with last year's and this year's RRO information... though, it is the same. Basically, your RRO is who you played... if everyone on your schedule counts for primary criteria... everyone counts for RRO. The exception is if you don't hit the 70% in-region scheduling criteria and don't get a waiver... then that team will revert back to just their in-region games counting and those their RRO as well. However, that really isn't a big issue for a vast majority of teams... not to mention the 200 miles and administrative region criteria holding water.

Let's also remember one other major thing... the decision to realign the regions was a LONG time in coming and doesn't involve just basketball. The realignment was to even things off across regions (East and Atlantic will be more "even" compared to the Mid-Atlantic for example) and across sports by having teams and conferences in similiar regions. You do realize how many conferences and teams are in different regions right now in basketball? It was worse before the AMCC was pulled into the Great Lakes starting this season.

People may complain about this new set-up, but you read the tea leaves and saw how things didn't add up in basketball and across other sports, this decision was obvious. Furthermore, as Pat pointed out, the Central Region hasn't hurt women's basketball a single bit.

[sac]

New D3hoops.com Top 25...

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/index

1. UW-Stevens Point
2. UW-Whitewater
3. Washington U.
4. Illinois Wesleyan
5. St. Norbert

That would make for quite a tough Central Region.

Region of Death?

At most, only 2 could make to Salem but only if one gets sent East or South.

[Pat Coleman]

New D3hoops.com Top 25...

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/index

1. UW-Stevens Point
2. UW-Whitewater
3. Washington U.
4. Illinois Wesleyan
5. St. Norbert

That would make for quite a tough Central Region.

Region of Death?

At most, only 2 could make to Salem but only if one gets sent East or South.

Which region they are designated as being in by the NCAA doesn't have an impact there, though.

[sac]

New D3hoops.com Top 25...

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/index

1. UW-Stevens Point
2. UW-Whitewater
3. Washington U.
4. Illinois Wesleyan
5. St. Norbert

That would make for quite a tough Central Region.

Region of Death?

At most, only 2 could make to Salem but only if one gets sent East or South.

Which region they are designated as being in by the NCAA doesn't have an impact there, though.

I don't think I said that

[KnightSlappy]

New D3hoops.com Top 25...

http://www.d3hoops.com/top25/index

1. UW-Stevens Point
2. UW-Whitewater
3. Washington U.
4. Illinois Wesleyan
5. St. Norbert

That would make for quite a tough Central Region.

Region of Death?

At most, only 2 could make to Salem but only if one gets sent East or South.

I know we didn't really like the one-game early round format last year, but having the Elite Eight all meet in Salem was a positive in terms of balancing the bracket.