Pool C

Swish3 · February 28, 2014, 01:49:42 PM

If CNU were to lose the championship game at MWC, might they be in the conversation for a pool c bid? They play in a very tough conference and have wins at R-MC, at VWC, against MWC and at Wesley....anyone know what CNU's SOS is? It's bound to be pretty solid....

madzillagd · February 28, 2014, 02:31:50 PM

Quote from: Swish3 on February 28, 2014, 01:49:42 PM
If CNU were to lose the championship game at MWC, might they be in the conversation for a pool c bid? They play in a very tough conference and have wins at R-MC, at VWC, against MWC and at Wesley....anyone know what CNU's SOS is? It's bound to be pretty solid....

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2014/02/26/2014-ncaa-regional-rankings-week-3/

madzillagd · February 28, 2014, 02:45:05 PM

Add Randolph-Macon to the Pool C side of the house.

HOPEful · February 28, 2014, 03:07:24 PM

Quote from: madzillagd on February 28, 2014, 02:45:05 PM
Add Randolph-Macon to the Pool C side of the house.

Does the ODAC get three in if VWU loses in the championship game?

sac · February 28, 2014, 03:09:17 PM

ODAC would get at least 2 anyway, probably not terrible for the bubble watchers as long as Va Wesleyan wins the AQ.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · February 28, 2014, 03:38:46 PM

The ODAC's only hope is VWC losses in the title game if they want three bids. It all depends on how many other teams are upset. VWC and RMC will actually end up with very similar records and opens up a major conversation on who gets in and who should be higher ranked.

As for the New Jersey schools... they are allowed to host games since a federal court denied New Jersey's appeal last year and New Jersey has not decided to appeal that (I think to the Supreme Court).

Interestingly enough, the court's decision took place the Friday of the opening weekend of the tournament last year, so if New Jersey schools had advanced to the second weekend and were in position to host... they would have been allowed to host.

hopefan · February 28, 2014, 06:04:51 PM

Greektragedy.. sorry, haven't been following closely and didn't notice you had already posted a superb writeup on the regional ratings and those teams' tourney performance... sorry for being redundant...

David Collinge · February 28, 2014, 07:52:32 PM

#22 Wittenberg (GL #6), which had lost two regular season games to DePauw (GL #5) by 26 and 22, defeats the Tigers 63-61. Witt advances to the NCAC Championship game against #8 Wooster (GL #1) or Ohio Wesleyan (GL #7), while DePauw (19-8) moves to the far outer edge of the bubble.

Mr. Ypsi · February 28, 2014, 08:00:42 PM

Augie (#4 Midwest) lost by 11 to Wheaton (#3 Midwest) on a neutral court. Barring a huge rash of upsets, are they still fairly safe? Or now very much a bubble team?

KnightSlappy · February 28, 2014, 08:09:16 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 28, 2014, 08:00:42 PM
Augie (#4 Midwest) lost by 11 to Wheaton (#3 Midwest) on a neutral court. Barring a huge rash of upsets, are they still fairly safe? Or now very much a bubble team?

Looking fairly safe, probably.

KnightSlappy · February 28, 2014, 08:17:24 PM

Quote from: Swish3 on February 28, 2014, 01:49:42 PM
If CNU were to lose the championship game at MWC, might they be in the conversation for a pool c bid? They play in a very tough conference and have wins at R-MC, at VWC, against MWC and at Wesley....anyone know what CNU's SOS is? It's bound to be pretty solid....

Their numbers look reasonable for a Pool C, but going 0-2 against St. Mary's (Md.) is probably dragging them below the Seahawks in the rankings. That might make it more difficult if St. Mary's blocks them from getting to the table.

7express · February 28, 2014, 08:19:59 PM

Quote from: David Collinge on February 28, 2014, 07:52:32 PM
#22 Wittenberg (GL #6), which had lost two regular season games to DePauw (GL #5) by 26 and 22, defeats the Tigers 63-61. Witt advances to the NCAC Championship game against #8 Wooster (GL #1) or Ohio Wesleyan (GL #7), while DePauw (19-8) moves to the far outer edge of the bubble.

Very difficult to beat a good team 3 times in 1 season. I know I would much rather have Western Connecticut play a team they lost to twice in the regular season in the LEC tournament then a team they beat twice during the season.

KnightSlappy · February 28, 2014, 08:26:30 PM

Quote from: 7express on February 28, 2014, 08:19:59 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on February 28, 2014, 07:52:32 PM
#22 Wittenberg (GL #6), which had lost two regular season games to DePauw (GL #5) by 26 and 22, defeats the Tigers 63-61. Witt advances to the NCAC Championship game against #8 Wooster (GL #1) or Ohio Wesleyan (GL #7), while DePauw (19-8) moves to the far outer edge of the bubble.

Very difficult to beat a good team 3 times in 1 season. I know I would much rather have Western Connecticut play a team they lost to twice in the regular season in the LEC tournament then a team they beat twice during the season.

If two teams are evenly matched, then the chances of beating them three times in a season is roughly 12.5%.

But if you've already beaten them twice, then the chances of beating them the third time is roughly 50%.

David Collinge · February 28, 2014, 08:42:07 PM

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 28, 2014, 08:26:30 PM
But if you've already beaten them twice, then the chances of beating them the third time is roughly 50%.

+1. My wife just looked over her shoulder at me to see what I was snickering at.

Mr. Ypsi · February 28, 2014, 08:48:37 PM

Quote from: David Collinge on February 28, 2014, 08:42:07 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 28, 2014, 08:26:30 PM
But if you've already beaten them twice, then the chances of beating them the third time is roughly 50%.

+1. My wife just looked over her shoulder at me to see what I was snickering at.

Actually, if you have already beaten the team twice, that is a fair amount of evidence that either 1) you are better than them, or 2) you have specific match-up advantages over them. I would think the probability is higher than 50%.

Gregory Sager must not be seeing this thread recently, as he HATES that cliche!