Pool C

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bopol

Quote from: CCHoopster on March 03, 2014, 10:21:57 AM
CNU has 17 wins. Dickinson has 21. Stop with this SOS end all be all..... At some point winning means more. Don't schedule it if you can't win it. Carthrage too.

Not a criteria for selection, but interesting nontheless:

Record against Top 50, second 50 and all other D3 according to Massey

Carthage (4-6, 5-2, 6-1)
Dickinson (1-1, 4-3, 16-2)
Chris Newport (4-7, 2-1, 13-1)

Carthage has an advantage over both (IMO) because of the best wins (Wash U(#2) and IWU (#4)) vs. Dickinson (Alvernia (#42)) and Chris Newport (Wesley (#13) and Mary Washington (#19)).

7express

I can't see how Newport would jump from not ranked in the MA last week, to #4 or #5 this week ahead of Stevenson and Dickinson.  That's why to me they're not even on the radar.

KnightSlappy

Quote from: 7express on March 03, 2014, 10:48:34 AM
I can't see how Newport would jump from not ranked in the MA last week, to #4 or #5 this week ahead of Stevenson and Dickinson.  That's why to me they're not even on the radar.

They won two more games, added nearly .020 to their SOS, and played 2 RRO, both in the top half of the region (going 1-1).

Dickinson only hurt themselves, and Stevenson added one win to an unranked opponent and a loss to Alvernia.

Titan Q

I'll bet head coaches from bubble teams like Ohio Wesleyan and Springfield are hoping the Mid-Atlantic put Dickinson or Stevenson ahead of Christopher Newport.

KnightSlappy

Compare Hope and Springfield based on SOS calculation method

NCAA:
Hope: 0.760 / 0.556 / 2-4
Springfield: 0.731 / .566 / 2-4

Correct:
Hope: 0.760 / 0.529 / 2-4
Springfield: 0.731 / .555 / 2-4

CCHoopster

Quote from: KnightSlappy on March 03, 2014, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: 7express on March 03, 2014, 10:48:34 AM
I can't see how Newport would jump from not ranked in the MA last week, to #4 or #5 this week ahead of Stevenson and Dickinson.  That's why to me they're not even on the radar.

They won two more games, added nearly .020 to their SOS, and played 2 RRO, both in the top half of the region (going 1-1).

Dickinson only hurt themselves, and Stevenson added one win to an unranked opponent and a loss to Alvernia.

They lost 9 games. Dickinson won their league, hosted CC tournament, made championship game and finished with 2 more wins and have 3 less losses. I'd rather put a Messiah in from the MA than CNU who hasn't even been RR. And Messiah has zero chance.


y_jack_lok

Quote from: Hugenerd on March 03, 2014, 09:13:46 AM
Quote from: sethteater on March 03, 2014, 09:10:43 AM
Anyone know who gets told the bracket first? Wondering which site to be hitting refresh incessantly :)

The first release of the bracket is online via NCAA webcast (which will happen at 12:30).  D3Hoops usually has it posted pretty quickly thereafter.

Where does one go to find this webcast? I am on the Men's D3 basketball site at NCAA.com and don't see any reference to it at all.

HOPEful

Quote from: KnightSlappy on March 03, 2014, 11:20:30 AM
Compare Hope and Springfield based on SOS calculation method

NCAA:
Hope: 0.760 / 0.556 / 2-4
Springfield: 0.731 / .566 / 2-4

Correct:
Hope: 0.760 / 0.529 / 2-4
Springfield: 0.731 / .555 / 2-4

From the GL board... Knightslappy - "Calvin jumps to #17 in the latest Massey Ratings update. Hope slides to #21. Both seem about right."

Knightslappy, if you believe Calvin at #17 "seems about right", they you probably believe they should be ranked regionally... If so, 2-4 would become 4-5 for Hope...
Let's go Dutchmen!

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CCHoopster

Quote from: y_jack_lok on March 03, 2014, 11:31:02 AM
Quote from: Hugenerd on March 03, 2014, 09:13:46 AM
Quote from: sethteater on March 03, 2014, 09:10:43 AM
Anyone know who gets told the bracket first? Wondering which site to be hitting refresh incessantly :)

The first release of the bracket is online via NCAA webcast (which will happen at 12:30).  D3Hoops usually has it posted pretty quickly thereafter.

Where does one go to find this webcast? I am on the Men's D3 basketball site at NCAA.com and don't see any reference to it at all.

D3Hoops.com front page at 12:30 EST

almcguirejr

Quote from: y_jack_lok on March 03, 2014, 11:31:02 AM
Quote from: Hugenerd on March 03, 2014, 09:13:46 AM
Quote from: sethteater on March 03, 2014, 09:10:43 AM
Anyone know who gets told the bracket first? Wondering which site to be hitting refresh incessantly :)

The first release of the bracket is online via NCAA webcast (which will happen at 12:30).  D3Hoops usually has it posted pretty quickly thereafter.

Where does one go to find this webcast? I am on the Men's D3 basketball site at NCAA.com and don't see any reference to it at all.

http://www.ncaa.com/liveschedule/2014/03/03

CCHoopster

Quote from: almcguirejr on March 03, 2014, 11:34:44 AM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on March 03, 2014, 11:31:02 AM
Quote from: Hugenerd on March 03, 2014, 09:13:46 AM
Quote from: sethteater on March 03, 2014, 09:10:43 AM
Anyone know who gets told the bracket first? Wondering which site to be hitting refresh incessantly :)

The first release of the bracket is online via NCAA webcast (which will happen at 12:30).  D3Hoops usually has it posted pretty quickly thereafter.

Thanks, Al M
Where does one go to find this webcast? I am on the Men's D3 basketball site at NCAA.com and don't see any reference to it at all.

http://www.ncaa.com/liveschedule/2014/03/03

y_jack_lok

Thanks to everyone for the link.

bopol

Quote from: sethteater on March 03, 2014, 11:32:14 AM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on March 03, 2014, 11:20:30 AM
Compare Hope and Springfield based on SOS calculation method

NCAA:
Hope: 0.760 / 0.556 / 2-4
Springfield: 0.731 / .566 / 2-4

Correct:
Hope: 0.760 / 0.529 / 2-4
Springfield: 0.731 / .555 / 2-4

From the GL board... Knightslappy - "Calvin jumps to #17 in the latest Massey Ratings update. Hope slides to #21. Both seem about right."

Knightslappy, if you believe Calvin at #17 "seems about right", they you probably believe they should be ranked regionally... If so, 2-4 would become 4-5 for Hope...

and 4-7 becomes 5-7 for Carthage!!!!!

CCHoopster

Calm before the storm.... I am nervous and I have nothing even riding on this!

My daughters school was closed today due to weather so I "volunteered" to stay home and use a "sick" day. Although I will be sick if the Mid Atlantic gets 1 Pool C and if 2, CNU gets it! lol all in fun

KnightSlappy

Quote from: sethteater on March 03, 2014, 11:32:14 AM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on March 03, 2014, 11:20:30 AM
Compare Hope and Springfield based on SOS calculation method

NCAA:
Hope: 0.760 / 0.556 / 2-4
Springfield: 0.731 / .566 / 2-4

Correct:
Hope: 0.760 / 0.529 / 2-4
Springfield: 0.731 / .555 / 2-4

From the GL board... Knightslappy - "Calvin jumps to #17 in the latest Massey Ratings update. Hope slides to #21. Both seem about right."

Knightslappy, if you believe Calvin at #17 "seems about right", they you probably believe they should be ranked regionally... If so, 2-4 would become 4-5 for Hope...

I think Calvin's only 50-50 for the regional rankings. Completely different criteria here for a Massey rank and an NCAA rank. It's just not the same at all.