Pool C

[HOPEful]

Compare Hope and Springfield based on SOS calculation method

NCAA:
Hope: 0.760 / 0.556 / 2-4
Springfield: 0.731 / .566 / 2-4

Correct:
Hope: 0.760 / 0.529 / 2-4
Springfield: 0.731 / .555 / 2-4

From the GL board... Knightslappy - "Calvin jumps to #17 in the latest Massey Ratings update. Hope slides to #21. Both seem about right."

Knightslappy, if you believe Calvin at #17 "seems about right", they you probably believe they should be ranked regionally... If so, 2-4 would become 4-5 for Hope...

and 4-7 becomes 5-7 for Carthage!!!!!

Carthage was one of the 2... (Centre and Carthage) with the 4 being (UWSP, UWWW, UIW, and Wheaton)

I'm hoping the committee is looking not only vRRO but the quality of the RROs, as well. Losses to UWSP, UWWW, and UIW are a little different than say Rose-Hulman, Pomona-Pitzer, or NIC, (not a slam on those teams! Those are quality teams... but not elite)

[D3HoopJunkie]

This thread is unbelievable!!

KnightSlappy, Bopol, TitanQ, Greek and all the others who contribute on here regularly, thank you for the knowledge. You guys make this so much more fun.

I'm just starting to learn about the numbers and systems of how it all works and I must say you guys make it that much easier to understand so again, Thanks!!

[CCHoopster]

This thread is unbelievable!!

KnightSlappy, Bopol, TitanQ, Greek and all the others who contribute on here regularly, thank you for the knowledge. You guys make this so much more fun.

I'm just starting to learn about the numbers and systems of how it all works and I must say you guys make it that much easier to understand so again, Thanks!!

+1

[CCHoopster]

Anyone think the NCAA Selection Committee will have a completely differing opinion than the regional committees regarding vRRO? I think there is a chance with things being somewhat different this year that the NCAA could make some major changes to RR's.

[HOPEful]

Compare Hope and Springfield based on SOS calculation method

NCAA:
Hope: 0.760 / 0.556 / 2-4
Springfield: 0.731 / .566 / 2-4

Correct:
Hope: 0.760 / 0.529 / 2-4
Springfield: 0.731 / .555 / 2-4

From the GL board... Knightslappy - "Calvin jumps to #17 in the latest Massey Ratings update. Hope slides to #21. Both seem about right."

Knightslappy, if you believe Calvin at #17 "seems about right", they you probably believe they should be ranked regionally... If so, 2-4 would become 4-5 for Hope...

I think Calvin's only 50-50 for the regional rankings. Completely different criteria here for a Massey rank and an NCAA rank. It's just not the same at all.

Knightslappy, where do you get your Massay numbers from... The site I normally look at currently shows Hope at 27th with 494 pts. and Calvin at 42nd with 486 pts. I'm guessing yours is more accurate...

[sac]

masseyratings.com

[CCHoopster]

 How does a 17-8 team get a bye? Emory

[7express]

How does a 17-8 team get a bye? Emory

Can't even be geography.  Emory really got a bye??

[bopol]

Carthage is out.

OWU/Witt/Dickinson in...

Now, I'm wondering about Stephenson/DePauw/Chris Newport/Springfield.

[HOPEful]

Hope is hosting!! Yah baby!!!

[CCHoopster]

Bowdoin? Seriously..... That's laughable like Emory getting a bye.

[CCHoopster]

Scranton doesn't host? So one host in the Mid-Atlantic...... That's a slap

[NEPAFAN]

Scranton doesn't host? So one host in the Mid-Atlantic...... That's a slap

Thanks NCAA.

[bopol]

Thoughts:

* 4 hosts in the South...ok, then.

* Dickinson, Springfield and Bowdoin get in on the final bracket over (I had) William Paterson, Carthage and Stevenson.

* Springfield could make an argument over both.  Bowdoin, not so much. 

* I really still think W. Paterson should be in without that much thought.  Oh, well. 

* So DePauw did end up behind Witt and OWU in the GL and missed.

* Stevenson ended up behind Dickinson in the MA and that one is a bit of surprise.  Also that they got in with a 1-1 RRO.  With Dickinson and Bowdoin (1-4 RRO) getting in, we were clearly misreading the committee this year, as they seemed to put little emphasis on the RRO compared to last year.

[CCHoopster]

Take all the data and stick it; the Mid Atlantic constantly gets disrespected. One host, the #1 ranked team in the region has to travel to Brockport and Alvernia has to play Wesley? Avoid in region, right....The Commonwealth only gets 1 team which is an absolute travesty??!! 3 Mid Atlantic teams travel to Va Weslyan.

If you disagree you either work for the NCAA or have no clue.