Pool C

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The number of Pool C's from the UAA is not really out of line with the other 4 'power conferences' in the same time frame.

NESCAC  --12
CCIW      --11
ODAC     --11
WIAC     --9
UAA        --9

It's good to see the breakdown. Sometimes a Pool C is a projected Pool A that gets upset in the conference tourney but that can't happen in the UAA.

[KnightSlappy]

Conference tournaments deciding the AQ's wouldn't be such a big deal if D3 had the same access ratio to the tournament as D1.

I've wondered what would happen if the NCAA bumped the conference Pool A requirement from seven teams to ten.

CUNYAC (9)
E8 (9)
LAND (9)
LL (9)
MACC (9)
NECC (9)
NWC (9)
SCIAC (9)
WIAC (9)
CCIW (8)
IIAC (8)
LEC (8)
MACF (8)
MIAA (8)
SAA (8)
SCAC (8)
UAA (8)
MASCAC (7)
NEWMAC (7)
UMAC (7)

We'd lose 20 Pool A bids, gain 16 Pool B bids, and gain 4 Pool C bids. Could be fun.

If you made the minimum 8, we'd lose 3 Pool A bids, but gain them back in the form of Pool B.

[KnightSlappy]

The number of Pool C's from the UAA is not really out of line with the other 4 'power conferences' in the same time frame.

NESCAC  --12 (1.1)
CCIW      --11 (1.4)
ODAC     --11 (0.9)
WIAC     --9 (1.0)
UAA        --9 (1.1)

It's good to see the breakdown. Sometimes a Pool C is a projected Pool A that gets upset in the conference tourney but that can't happen in the UAA.

UAA is still not out of line with the others once you adjust for number of teams in the conference, but that does point out how much success the CCIW has been having in Pool C.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

With the new Top 25 comes my ballot: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/?p=2636

Continues to be a challenging season as a voter.

[Greek Tragedy]

That wacky year may have also been the year that, with 4 games to go, it was mathematically (in terms of who played who) possible for every team to finish 8-8. Point amd Whitewater won the league at just 10-6 while 8th place Stout was 6-10 and last place La Crosse was 5-11. That's a 5 game gap between 1st and 9th. This year it was a 5 game gap between 1st and 3rd. Ouch!

[WUPHF]

+1 to everyone for the UAA talk.  Very interesting.

[Pat Coleman]

Conference tournaments deciding the AQ's wouldn't be such a big deal if D3 had the same access ratio to the tournament as D1.

I've wondered what would happen if the NCAA bumped the conference Pool A requirement from seven teams to ten.

CUNYAC (9)
E8 (9)
LAND (9)
LL (9)
MACC (9)
NECC (9)
NWC (9)
SCIAC (9)
WIAC (9)
CCIW (8)
IIAC (8)
LEC (8)
MACF (8)
MIAA (8)
SAA (8)
SCAC (8)
UAA (8)
MASCAC (7)
NEWMAC (7)
UMAC (7)

We'd lose 20 Pool A bids, gain 16 Pool B bids, and gain 4 Pool C bids. Could be fun.

If you made the minimum 8, we'd lose 3 Pool A bids, but gain them back in the form of Pool B.

This list is probably straight out of the handbook, right? There are eight teams in the UMAC.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Conference tournaments deciding the AQ's wouldn't be such a big deal if D3 had the same access ratio to the tournament as D1.

I've wondered what would happen if the NCAA bumped the conference Pool A requirement from seven teams to ten.

CUNYAC (9)
E8 (9)
LAND (9)
LL (9)
MACC (9)
NECC (9)
NWC (9)
SCIAC (9)
WIAC (9)
CCIW (8)
IIAC (8)
LEC (8)
MACF (8)
MIAA (8)
SAA (8)
SCAC (8)
UAA (8)
MASCAC (7)
NEWMAC (7)
UMAC (7)

We'd lose 20 Pool A bids, gain 16 Pool B bids, and gain 4 Pool C bids. Could be fun.

If you made the minimum 8, we'd lose 3 Pool A bids, but gain them back in the form of Pool B.

This list is probably straight out of the handbook, right? There are eight teams in the UMAC.

We should up the minimum to 16 - then the committee could pick almost entirely unencumbered.

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Conference tournaments deciding the AQ's wouldn't be such a big deal if D3 had the same access ratio to the tournament as D1.

I've wondered what would happen if the NCAA bumped the conference Pool A requirement from seven teams to ten.

CUNYAC (9)
E8 (9)
LAND (9)
LL (9)
MACC (9)
NECC (9)
NWC (9)
SCIAC (9)
WIAC (9)
CCIW (8)
IIAC (8)
LEC (8)
MACF (8)
MIAA (8)
SAA (8)
SCAC (8)
UAA (8)
MASCAC (7)
NEWMAC (7)
UMAC (7)

We'd lose 20 Pool A bids, gain 16 Pool B bids, and gain 4 Pool C bids. Could be fun.

If you made the minimum 8, we'd lose 3 Pool A bids, but gain them back in the form of Pool B.

This list is probably straight out of the handbook, right? There are eight teams in the UMAC.

We should up the minimum to 16 - then the committee could pick almost entirely unencumbered.

MIAA-CCIW merger!

[mailsy]

Conference tournaments deciding the AQ's wouldn't be such a big deal if D3 had the same access ratio to the tournament as D1.

I've wondered what would happen if the NCAA bumped the conference Pool A requirement from seven teams to ten.

CUNYAC (9)
E8 (9)
LAND (9)
LL (9)
MACC (9)
NECC (9)
NWC (9)
SCIAC (9)
WIAC (9)
CCIW (8)
IIAC (8)
LEC (8)
MACF (8)
MIAA (8)
SAA (8)
SCAC (8)
UAA (8)
MASCAC (7)
NEWMAC (7)
UMAC (7)

We'd lose 20 Pool A bids, gain 16 Pool B bids, and gain 4 Pool C bids. Could be fun.

If you made the minimum 8, we'd lose 3 Pool A bids, but gain them back in the form of Pool B.

This list is probably straight out of the handbook, right? There are eight teams in the UMAC.

We should up the minimum to 16 - then the committee could pick almost entirely unencumbered.

Hey! Don't give them any ideas! 

[sac]

The number of Pool C's from the UAA is not really out of line with the other 4 'power conferences' in the same time frame.

NESCAC  --12
CCIW      --11
ODAC     --11
WIAC     --9
UAA        --9

It's good to see the breakdown. Sometimes a Pool C is a projected Pool A that gets upset in the conference tourney but that can't happen in the UAA.

I actually think that number is over 50%.   I haven't added that kind of breakdown yet to my list.  Easy enough to figure out I guess.


What I find disheartening is how difficult it is for conferences outside of those 'power 5', they've received 40.9% of the Pool C's yet make up just 12% of D3.  That I think points out the scheduling problem other conferences have making their SOS competitive.

It also just might point out how much better they are at playing basketball.

[KnightSlappy]

Conference tournaments deciding the AQ's wouldn't be such a big deal if D3 had the same access ratio to the tournament as D1.

I've wondered what would happen if the NCAA bumped the conference Pool A requirement from seven teams to ten.

CUNYAC (9)
E8 (9)
LAND (9)
LL (9)
MACC (9)
NECC (9)
NWC (9)
SCIAC (9)
WIAC (9)
CCIW (8)
IIAC (8)
LEC (8)
MACF (8)
MIAA (8)
SAA (8)
SCAC (8)
UAA (8)
MASCAC (7)
NEWMAC (7)
UMAC (7)

We'd lose 20 Pool A bids, gain 16 Pool B bids, and gain 4 Pool C bids. Could be fun.

If you made the minimum 8, we'd lose 3 Pool A bids, but gain them back in the form of Pool B.

This list is probably straight out of the handbook, right? There are eight teams in the UMAC.

Not from the handbook (they actually list Presentation as the 8th team and are missing North Central (Minn.))

I had Martin Luther mistagged in my spreadsheet.

[AO]

Conference tournaments deciding the AQ's wouldn't be such a big deal if D3 had the same access ratio to the tournament as D1.

I've wondered what would happen if the NCAA bumped the conference Pool A requirement from seven teams to ten.

CUNYAC (9)
E8 (9)
LAND (9)
LL (9)
MACC (9)
NECC (9)
NWC (9)
SCIAC (9)
WIAC (9)
CCIW (8)
IIAC (8)
LEC (8)
MACF (8)
MIAA (8)
SAA (8)
SCAC (8)
UAA (8)
MASCAC (7)
NEWMAC (7)
UMAC (7)

We'd lose 20 Pool A bids, gain 16 Pool B bids, and gain 4 Pool C bids. Could be fun.

If you made the minimum 8, we'd lose 3 Pool A bids, but gain them back in the form of Pool B.

This list is probably straight out of the handbook, right? There are eight teams in the UMAC.

Not from the handbook (they actually list Presentation as the 8th team and are missing North Central (Minn.))

I had Martin Luther mistagged in my spreadsheet.

Get it Right!!!!!!  We've got a lot of pool C contenders!

[ronk]

I wish the MIAA would go back to doing a full conference tournament rather than taking the top four seeds. I think there's something romantic about the idea that a #8 seed in a conference could go on a run and get into the tournament. Single elimination tournaments like the NCAAs are about crowning a champion, not determining who the best teams are.

I'm with you there... I wish the WIAC was still and 8-team tournament instead of the 6-team format they switched to in '08-'09. Heck, it was a 9-team tournament during the first two years in '99 and '00.

And '01 was the infamous year where #8 Stout beat #1 Whitewater by 41 in Whitewater, #7 Platteville beat #2 Stevens Point on a 30 foot buzzer beater, #6 Oshkosh beat #3 River Falls after RF threw the ball into the air in celebration of their win... but the ball hit the ceiling before the buzzer sounded, which gave Oshkosh the opportunity to hit a 3 to tie the game and send it to OT, where Oshkosh promptly won.

Perhaps I just like the romantic underdog stories... but we seem to get fewer of these as more and more conferences just allow the front runners to get into the conference tournament.

The height of the ceiling wasn't covered in their scouting report? they got what they deserved.

[Greek Tragedy]

INflate-gate.

The ball had way too much air in it. He actually didn't throw the ball in the air after intercepting the pass. He simply dribbled the ball once and it shot up like a rocket and hit the ceiling.

The ball was quickly replaced allowing Oshkosh to tie the game and send it into overtime.