Pool C

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

I realize... this may just be me... but if there is any chance you can use more contrasting colors than red and green... I would love it. I'm red/green color blind/deficient.

If it is too much work... please don't change just for me - it isn't like I don't know much of this already LOL.

What colors would you like?

My guess is like over on the Top 25 board and use blue and red.

[Greek Tragedy]

WK3	TEAM	W%/vRRO/SOS	WEEK	SCHEDULE
MA#1	Johns Hopkins (CC)	.880/3-2/.528		WON vs Gettysburg 80-67; vs #2 Dickinson in Final on Sat.
MA#2	Dickinson (CC)	.800/3-2/.539		WON at Franklin and Marshall 82-68; vs #1 Johns Hopkins in Final on Sat.
MA#3	Catholic (LAND)	.875/1-1/.495		WON vs Drew 79-53; vs #5 Scranton in Final on Sat.
MA#4	Franklin and Marshall (CC)	.800/3-2/.504	0-1	LOST vs #2 Dickinson 82-68 in semis
MA#5	Scranton (LAND)	.800/1-1/.514		WON vs Susquehanna 67-53; at #3 Catholic in Final on Sat.
MA#6	St. Mary's (Md.) (CAC)	.818/0-0/.480	0-1	LOST vs Christopher Newport 83-69 in semis

It will be a big debate if Scranton jumps Franklin and Marshall get if either get a bid, but definitely not both, or Catholic for that matter.


  The Landmark loser should be placed above F&M; the winner could be placed above Dickinson, if Dickinson loses in the Centennial final.

It doesn't matter if the Landmark winner is placed above Dickinson, they get the Pool A. If Scranton loses and jumps F&M, I don't think they'll get in anyway. I guess it depends how much their SOS improves. F&M will have 6 vRRO to Scranton's 3.

[ronk]

WK3	TEAM	W%/vRRO/SOS	WEEK	SCHEDULE
MA#1	Johns Hopkins (CC)	.880/3-2/.528		WON vs Gettysburg 80-67; vs #2 Dickinson in Final on Sat.
MA#2	Dickinson (CC)	.800/3-2/.539		WON at Franklin and Marshall 82-68; vs #1 Johns Hopkins in Final on Sat.
MA#3	Catholic (LAND)	.875/1-1/.495		WON vs Drew 79-53; vs #5 Scranton in Final on Sat.
MA#4	Franklin and Marshall (CC)	.800/3-2/.504	0-1	LOST vs #2 Dickinson 82-68 in semis
MA#5	Scranton (LAND)	.800/1-1/.514		WON vs Susquehanna 67-53; at #3 Catholic in Final on Sat.
MA#6	St. Mary's (Md.) (CAC)	.818/0-0/.480	0-1	LOST vs Christopher Newport 83-69 in semis

It will be a big debate if Scranton jumps Franklin and Marshall get if either get a bid, but definitely not both, or Catholic for that matter.


  The Landmark loser should be placed above F&M; the winner could be placed above Dickinson, if Dickinson loses in the Centennial final.

It doesn't matter if the Landmark winner is placed above Dickinson, they get the Pool A. If Scranton loses and jumps F&M, I don't think they'll get in anyway. I guess it depends how much their SOS improves. F&M will have 6 vRRO to Scranton's 3.

  It matters for hosting; #2 should get to host. Scranton will have 4 vvro(Misericordia and Catholic).

[smedindy]

A bubble burst, perhaps with OWU now a "C". Probably it won't burst fully unless DPU beats Wooster.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

ronk - Dickinson will have seven... F&M (x3), Johns Hopkins(x3), North Central (x1).

Assuming Scranton beats Catholic and Dickinson loses to Hopkins:
Scranton     .523 SOS (current)     2-2 vRRO (projected)
Dickinson    .548 SOS (current)     4-3 vRRO (projected)

I know you are trying to make a push for this... but where... where do you see data that puts Scranton ahead of Dickinson?

A bubble burst, perhaps with OWU now a "C". Probably it won't burst fully unless DPU beats Wooster.

Right... it won't burst unless DePauw wins... otherwise those two where getting in anyway. Same in the WIAC currently.

[Greek Tragedy]

IF CHALK HAPPENS, POOL Cs in Maroon?

ATLANTIC
Richard Stockton and Baruch wrapped up Pool As

William Paterson should be a Pool C.

Brooklyn and Rutgers-Newark are outside looking in.

Sage and Misericordia have Finals. Win and they're in, lose and they're out.

CENTRAL
Augustana and IWU play the CCIW Final with both in regardless. Whitewater is also in whether or not they beat Oshkosh in the WIAC Final.

Stevens Point is in as a Pool C.

Washington U and St. Norbert (probably) are in if they lose tomorrow. Obviously, Washington U. can win and still be a Pool C.

Elmhurst and North Central will be nervous.

EAST
St. John Fisher and Plattsburgh St. both have finals and should be in if they lose.

Skidmore also has a final but is more iffy than the other two NYU is a possibility but needs a win on Saturday to get that winning % up.

Hobart and Clarkson can schedule tee times.

GREAT LAKES
Marietta plays Mount Union in the OAC Final and Marietta should be safe. Mount Union would have an outside chance, assuming they jump John Carroll (whom they beat). Wooster is in the NCAC Final and is safe, as is semi-final loser Ohio Wesleyan.

John Carroll probably won't make it and PS-Behrend is out.

Calvin plays Hope and St. Vincent has a Final as well. Win and your in.

MID-ATLANTIC
John's Hopkins plays Dickinson for the CC Final and both are in.

The loser of Catholic/Scranton will be skating on real thin ice, as is Franklin and Marshall.

St. Mary's is out.

NEW ENGLAND
Babson, Trinity and Amherst are all still playing and are in.

Bates and Eastern Connecticut lost this week but should be selected from Pool C.

If WPI can get to the final and lose to Babson, they might get in, but after that it's pretty muddy.

Albertus Magnus, Bowdoin, Springfield, Southern Vermont and Wesleyan probably need to get to their respective finals and win them to dance in March.

SOUTH
Emory can win the UAA and get the Pool A. Regardless, they're in along with ODAC foes Randolph-Macon and Virginia Wesleyan.

You start to get nervous after that if East Texas Baptist doesn't win the ASC.

Centre and Rhodes have to hope they win the SAA to get in while ASC teams MHB and Hardin-Simmons are out.

WEST
St. Thomas, playing for the MIAC title, along with St. Olaf (who is done) are in. Semi-final losers Buena Vista are probably in too.

Whitman and Dubuque are probably out and Whitworth probably needs the Pool A to keep playing.

Bethel needs to beat St. Thomas to get in.
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[FCGrizzliesGrad]

IF CHALK HAPPENS, POOL Cs in Maroon?

ATLANTIC
Richard Stockton and Baruch wrapped up Pool As

William Paterson should be a Pool C.

Brooklyn and Rutgers-Newark are outside looking in.

Sage and Misericordia have Finals. Win and they're in, lose and they're out.

CENTRAL
Augustana and IWU play the CCIW Final with both in regardless. Whitewater is also in whether or not they beat Oshkosh in the WIAC Final.

Stevens Point is in as a Pool C.

Washington U and St. Norbert (probably) are in if they lose tomorrow. Obviously, Washington U. can win and still be a Pool C.

Elmhurst and North Central will be nervous.

EAST
St. John Fisher and Plattsburgh St. both have finals and should be in if they lose.

Skidmore also has a final but is more iffy than the other two NYU is a possibility but needs a win on Saturday to get that winning % up.

Hobart and Clarkson can schedule tee times.

GREAT LAKES
Marietta plays Mount Union in the OAC Final and Marietta should be safe. Mount Union would have an outside chance, assuming they jump John Carroll (whom they beat). Wooster is in the NCAC Final and is safe, as is semi-final loser Ohio Wesleyan.

John Carroll probably won't make it and PS-Behrend is out.

Calvin plays Hope and St. Vincent has a Final as well. Win and your in.

MID-ATLANTIC
John's Hopkins plays Dickinson for the CC Final and both are in.

The loser of Catholic/Scranton will be skating on real thin ice, as is Franklin and Marshall.

St. Mary's is out.

NEW ENGLAND
Babson, Trinity and Amherst are all still playing and are in.

Bates and Eastern Connecticut lost this week but should be selected from Pool C.

If WPI can get to the final and lose to Babson, they might get in, but after that it's pretty muddy.

Albertus Magnus, Bowdoin, Springfield, Southern Vermont and Wesleyan probably need to get to their respective finals and win them to dance in March.

SOUTH
Emory can win the UAA and get the Pool A. Regardless, they're in along with ODAC foes Randolph-Macon and Virginia Wesleyan.

You start to get nervous after that if East Texas Baptist doesn't win the ASC.

Centre and Rhodes have to hope they win the SAA to get in while ASC teams MHB and Hardin-Simmons are out.

WEST
St. Thomas, playing for the MIAC title, along with St. Olaf (who is done) are in. Semi-final losers Buena Vista are probably in too.

Whitman and Dubuque are probably out and Whitworth probably needs the Pool A to keep playing.

Bethel needs to beat St. Thomas to get in.

Maroon is a bit dark I think... hard to differentiate between it and black... I think regular red is best but not sure if there's any color issues with red-blue. Don't think there are.
Most of the other colors are too bright... best options I could see were orange (a bit bright) and brown (a bit dark)

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

If yoou are curious... maroon and brown so far look black.

Red and blue work because they are seperate. I.e. someone can be red/green or yellow/blue (or black/whit) color deficient... no other combo options.

[ronk]

ronk - Dickinson will have seven... F&M (x3), Johns Hopkins(x3), North Central (x1).

Assuming Scranton beats Catholic and Dickinson loses to Hopkins:
Scranton     .523 SOS (current)     2-2 vRRO (projected)
Dickinson    .548 SOS (current)     4-3 vRRO (projected)

I know you are trying to make a push for this... but where... where do you see data that puts Scranton ahead of Dickinson?

A bubble burst, perhaps with OWU now a "C". Probably it won't burst fully unless DPU beats Wooster.

Right... it won't burst unless DePauw wins... otherwise those two where getting in anyway. Same in the WIAC currently.

Scranton would have a better WP and the SOS should narrow with wins by Alvernia, Hanover, Husson, and Miseri. I agree that it would be more likely that Catholic winning the AQ could finish ahead of Dickinson losing.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

ronk... one win isn't going to make a difference and you are not considering what Dickinson's SOS could do... let alone the fact, the wins by the other teams (far from guaranteed), won't make that large a difference that they a that close. Also, Salisbury and Cabrini could pick up wins to help Dickinson.

[WUPHF]

Well, Massey is giving Emory an 89 percent chance at a 12 point victory over Rochester.  That may be generous.  Emory will win today and may win big.

[NEPAFAN]

ronk - Dickinson will have seven... F&M (x3), Johns Hopkins(x3), North Central (x1).

Assuming Scranton beats Catholic and Dickinson loses to Hopkins:
Scranton     .523 SOS (current)     2-2 vRRO (projected)
Dickinson    .548 SOS (current)     4-3 vRRO (projected)

I know you are trying to make a push for this... but where... where do you see data that puts Scranton ahead of Dickinson?

A bubble burst, perhaps with OWU now a "C". Probably it won't burst fully unless DPU beats Wooster.

Right... it won't burst unless DePauw wins... otherwise those two where getting in anyway. Same in the WIAC currently.

Scranton would have a better WP and the SOS should narrow with wins by Alvernia, Hanover, Husson, and Miseri. I agree that it would be more likely that Catholic winning the AQ could finish ahead of Dickinson losing.

I don't think Ronk is pushing for anything other than his opinions.

[Greek Tragedy]

I don't think Ronk is pushing for anything other than his opinions.

I think what Dave is pushing for is if he wants ronk's opinion, Dave will give it to him.       

[Greek Tragedy]

ronk... one win isn't going to make a difference and you are not considering what Dickinson's SOS could do... let alone the fact, the wins by the other teams (far from guaranteed), won't make that large a difference that they a that close. Also, Salisbury and Cabrini could pick up wins to help Dickinson.

BTW, Cabrini lost last night.

[northb]

If yoou are curious... maroon and brown so far look black.

Red and blue work because they are seperate. I.e. someone can be red/green or yellow/blue (or black/whit) color deficient... no other combo options.

Yes, but what color is the dress?