Pool C

[Greek Tragedy]

Grits Bracket

I find it amusing and enjoyable that there are TWO Waffle Houses at every exit south of Indiana.

[bopol]

I reworked the Wisconsin Side of the bracket based on comments...

Bracket can be hosted by St. Thomas or UWSP in Sweet 16.

UWSP
DePauw
Calvin
Elmhurst

Emory
Spaudling
Lagrange
CMS

St Norbert
Concordia WI
Defiance
St Thomas

Augustana
Northwestern
Dubuque
St Olaf

Bracket can be hosted by UWW or Wooster in Sweet 16.

UWW
*BYE
North Central
John Carroll

East Texas Baptist
Rhodes
Texas Lutheran
Whitworth

Ohio Wesleyan
SUNY-Oswego
Mount Union
Wash U

Wooster
Medaille
St Vincent
IWU

I'm setting up some rules for the East/South side of the bracket.  The trick is trying to prevent 2nd weekend travel if it is hosted in Randolph Macon since that's a haul from New England.  I set up a rule that it could be that Virginia Wesleyan might host, but if I do that, it severely restricts what I can do with breaking up the Northeast region. 

[ronk]

Grits Bracket

I find it amusing and enjoyable that there are TWO Waffle Houses at every exit south of Indiana.

Ironically-named site of RAC RR conference today.

[bopol]

NCAA will need compelling reason to override 2 hosts/region; therefore, NE won't get 4 hosts and East/Atlantic none. Nice names for the brackets and a strawman that we can critique to influence the national committee.

Northeast and Central are loaded.  I wouldn't be surprised to see them host more than their fair share, but I'll keep that in mind as I rework the east...

[Greek Tragedy]

I thought Hopkins couldn't host. Isn't their gym too small? Thanks for putting in the time to put that together.

They are somewhere between 1100 and 1200 and have hosted many times in the past. Nothing wrong with having them host.

I find that interesting that the NCAA wouldn't update their vRRO.

I was basing my updated vRRO on if a team played a RRO this week. I didn't realize they weren't updated with newly ranked teams (and teams that dropped out as well).

The vRRO sometimes is based on what the team had for data coming into those rankings... not what they had after the rankings were done.

But the NCAA has that info already. They know St. Thomas was 5-0 vRRO and then they add Bethel to the rankings. They should know they need to add the results against Bethel.

[ronk]

I reworked the Wisconsin Side of the bracket based on comments...

Bracket can be hosted by St. Thomas or UWSP in Sweet 16.

UWSP
DePauw
Calvin
Elmhurst

Emory
Spaudling
Lagrange
CMS

St Norbert
Concordia WI
Defiance
St Thomas

Augustana
Northwestern
Dubuque
St Olaf

Bracket can be hosted by UWW or Wooster in Sweet 16.

UWW
*BYE
North Central
John Carroll

East Texas Baptist
Rhodes
Texas Lutheran
Whitworth

Ohio Wesleyan
SUNY-Oswego
Mount Union
Wash U

Wooster
Medaille
St Vincent
IWU

I'm setting up some rules for the East/South side of the bracket.  The trick is trying to prevent 2nd weekend travel if it is hosted in Randolph Macon since that's a haul from New England.  I set up a rule that it could be that Virginia Wesleyan might host, but if I do that, it severely restricts what I can do with breaking up the Northeast region.

Don't stress yourself; the NCAA will pick the more deserving intermediate choice to host, reducing the distance traveled for the extremities.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I thought Hopkins couldn't host. Isn't their gym too small? Thanks for putting in the time to put that together.

They are somewhere between 1100 and 1200 and have hosted many times in the past. Nothing wrong with having them host.

I find that interesting that the NCAA wouldn't update their vRRO.

I was basing my updated vRRO on if a team played a RRO this week. I didn't realize they weren't updated with newly ranked teams (and teams that dropped out as well).

The vRRO sometimes is based on what the team had for data coming into those rankings... not what they had after the rankings were done.

But the NCAA has that info already. They know St. Thomas was 5-0 vRRO and then they add Bethel to the rankings. They should know they need to add the results against Bethel.

We are seeing the data sheets... not the changed sheets from after the committee posts stuff. Just the data that got them there.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

bopol - RMC people will tell you... the haul from New England can be inside 500 miles. Check out RMC's travel in 2013... not one flight to WPI or Amherst. It isn't as hard as you think.

[ronk]

  One would think that the NCAA would have the selection shows tomorrow in the order of gender priority for the 1st weekend; that is, since the women have priority this year, that their show would come first, so that their hosting decisions can allow the men more time to adjust their hosting decisions. There's at least 1 possibility this year that a men's team could get a hosting spot if their women's team gets slighted.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Except... the brackets are done well in advance of the shows... so there wouldn't be any time to change things anyway. I have it on good authority both brackets are completed earlier in the morning and not based on when they are being broadcast. Furthermore, the men have been first for a number of years; women second as a result.

[Greek Tragedy]

In a tight game, Amherst and Wesleyan are tied 0-0 to start the first half. Bubble teams are nervous.

[7express]

Dave, what time are the shows tomorrow??  1 PM men and 3 PM for the women??

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

12:30 for the men
2:30 for the women

[ronk]

Except... the brackets are done well in advance of the shows... so there wouldn't be any time to change things anyway. I have it on good authority both brackets are completed earlier in the morning and not based on when they are being broadcast. Furthermore, the men have been first for a number of years; women second as a result.

Doesn't mean that they couldn't(shouldn't) change it.

[Greek Tragedy]

Serious question.  Eastern time?