Pool C

[Greek Tragedy]

Wesleyan leads Amherst at the half, 36-27. The needle is getting close to the bubble.

Tied with 2 minutes to go.

Free basketball...OT.

[sac]

OT in the NESCAC

Any guess on who the bubble team might be?

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Except... the brackets are done well in advance of the shows... so there wouldn't be any time to change things anyway. I have it on good authority both brackets are completed earlier in the morning and not based on when they are being broadcast. Furthermore, the men have been first for a number of years; women second as a result.

Doesn't mean that they couldn't(shouldn't) change it.

What I am trying to say... it doesn't matter what time the shows air... both brackets are done at the same time earlier in the day. Furthermore, considering how many parts there are to move around if you want to adjust something and how much the production crew needs to work on the show prior... there isn't enough time to adjust if there is some "slight."

Except... the brackets are done well in advance of the shows... so there wouldn't be any time to change things anyway. I have it on good authority both brackets are completed earlier in the morning and not based on when they are being broadcast. Furthermore, the men have been first for a number of years; women second as a result.

Doesn't mean that they couldn't(shouldn't) change it.

Eastern... sorry, I usually point that kind of thing out.

[David Collinge]

Wooster
Medaille
St Vincent
IWU

Wooster will be fortunate just to make it in to the tournament. If they get selected to host (for the umpteenth year in a row), you won't believe the screams of undue influence and collusion that will rise from every corner of Ohio.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Wesleyan wins the NESCAC

Amherst and Bates are virtual locks, with Bowdoin and Trinity putting up competitive Pool C resumes.  I don't think it will happen, but I also wouldn't be surprised if the NESCAC gets five teams in.

[7express]

Wesleyan wins in OT over Amherst as another bubble goes pop!

[bopol]

OT in the NESCAC

Any guess on who the bubble team might be?

Springfield on mine.  I had Springfield and NCC as the last two...

[bopol]

Wooster
Medaille
St Vincent
IWU

Wooster will be fortunate just to make it in to the tournament. If they get selected to host (for the umpteenth year in a row), you won't believe the screams of undue influence and collusion that will rise from every corner of Ohio.

Wooster solves a lot of logistical problems because they can pull from the west (Illinois) and the east (NY/PA) and still be within the 500 mile limit.  I get where you're coming from and Mount Union might be a better pick for hosting than Wooster at this point.

[TrinColl1]

HoopsFan how can you have Amherst in over Trinity. Both have 20 wins. Trinity beat the daylights out of Amherst AT Amherst. Trinity finishes the regular season league play at 9-1. Amherst 6-4. Regular season way harder to win in any league then the playoffs where a team can just get hot. It would be a total joke if Amherst gets in and Trinity doesn't. It would show all people at D3 care about is the name not about the season at hand.

Also would anyone happen to know if this is true and Trinity doesn't get in are they the first ever NESCAC team with 20 wins who WON the NESCAC Regular Season to not get in the NCAA's?

[bopol]

Wesleyan wins the NESCAC

Amherst and Bates are virtual locks, with Bowdoin and Trinity putting up competitive Pool C resumes.  I don't think it will happen, but I also wouldn't be surprised if the NESCAC gets five teams in.

Not very convinced on Bowdoin.  Order will matter in the Northeast, but I think Bowdoin doesn't have a good resume to make it at this point.  I'm pretty convinced that Trinity is in.

[bopol]

bopol - RMC people will tell you... the haul from New England can be inside 500 miles. Check out RMC's travel in 2013... not one flight to WPI or Amherst. It isn't as hard as you think.

Randolph Macon opens up possibilities.  Putting energy into the possibility of having Virginia Wesleyan host isn't worth it though as Virginia Beach is just outside of 500 miles for eastern NY, Connecticut and Mass.  It's likely end up at Dickinson.

[sac]

The Great Lakes/Central/West for sure needs at least one non #1/#2 ranked team to host with St. Thomas' women probably getting that opportunity over the men.

I think St. Norbert takes the West's lone hosting because Dubuque, NW Minn, Bethel/St. Thomas winner just won't be seeded high enough.  I suppose its possible Bethel could host though.

Central
Augustana/Whitewater look like locks to host.

Great Lakes can go a couple ways
Marietta/OWU
Marietta/Mt. U

A need for another host in the area would be dependent on pulling teams in from New York/Penn and even Virginia.  In which case another host site in Ohio makes sense and that could be OWU or Mt. Union.

Illinois Wesleyan would actually be a pretty strong candidate as well.

Anyone else hosting and you're really breaking seeds.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

So, who do we have as definite?

William Patterson
Stevens Point
WashU
Marietta
Ohio Wesleyan
Wooster
Hopkins
Trinity
Amherst
Bates
E Conn
ODAC loser
St. Olaf

That leaves six spots left.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

HoopsFan how can you have Amherst in over Trinity. Both have 20 wins. Trinity beat the daylights out of Amherst AT Amherst. Trinity finishes the regular season league play at 9-1. Amherst 6-4. Regular season way harder to win in any league then the playoffs where a team can just get hot. It would be a total joke if Amherst gets in and Trinity doesn't. It would show all people at D3 care about is the name not about the season at hand.

Also would anyone happen to know if this is true and Trinity doesn't get in are they the first ever NESCAC team with 20 wins who WON the NESCAC Regular Season to not get in the NCAA's?

I took another look at it - Trinity is definitely in.  I do think Amherst is ahead of them in the rankings, though - a slightly better SOS now and a much better vRRO.

Bowdoin and Springfield have nearly identical resumes.  Bowdoin got the advantage last week; I'm not so sure they will this time.  It'll be hard, though, to take one and not the other.

[KnightSlappy]

Just looking at some numbers, Bethel is a viable candidate for one of the final Pool C spots, surprisingly.

I think Illinois Wesleyan is in, and I like Springfield's numbers if they lose (problem is, though, they'll be something like sixth to the table in the NE, but I think the top candidates come off early).