Pool C

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

This has been out for a bit, but glad you guys are able to get some sleep:
http://www.d3hoops.com/playoffs/men/2015/projected-mens-bracket

A few pods only have 2 regions represented and the Randolph Macon bracket is going to require at least one flight.

Back to the drawing board.

They're separated in pairs on that page mostly for ease of reading, Pat and I didn't take the time to separate them into sectional pods (he had to get on to the women's bracket and I had to go to bed).

I did take a look at possible match-ups to better separate the teams:

Augie/Emory paired with St Thomas/Point; Whitewater/ETBU paired with Marietta/St. John Fisher; Mt. Union/Dickinson paired with Macon/Amherst; and Babson/William Patterson paired with Hopkins/Stockton.

The Whitewater sectional might potential require an extra flight, but doesn't necessary have to do so.  I think two first round and, at most, three second round isn't too bad - especially with the diversity we were able to find.

[bopol]

This has been out for a bit, but glad you guys are able to get some sleep:
http://www.d3hoops.com/playoffs/men/2015/projected-mens-bracket

A few pods only have 2 regions represented and the Randolph Macon bracket is going to require at least one flight.

Back to the drawing board.

They're separated in pairs on that page mostly for ease of reading, Pat and I didn't take the time to separate them into sectional pods (he had to get on to the women's bracket and I had to go to bed).

I did take a look at possible match-ups to better separate the teams:

Augie/Emory paired with St Thomas/Point; Whitewater/ETBU paired with Marietta/St. John Fisher; Mt. Union/Dickinson paired with Macon/Amherst; and Babson/William Patterson paired with Hopkins/Stockton.

The Whitewater sectional might potential require an extra flight, but doesn't necessary have to do so.  I think two first round and, at most, three second round isn't too bad - especially with the diversity we were able to find.

Ah, I see, the job wasn't finished. 

I wonder how much effort is put into avoiding second weekend flights.  When I put a priority on it, it can be done, but it does affect the regional diversity of the 1st weekend pods.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

This has been out for a bit, but glad you guys are able to get some sleep:
http://www.d3hoops.com/playoffs/men/2015/projected-mens-bracket

A few pods only have 2 regions represented and the Randolph Macon bracket is going to require at least one flight.

Back to the drawing board.

They're separated in pairs on that page mostly for ease of reading, Pat and I didn't take the time to separate them into sectional pods (he had to get on to the women's bracket and I had to go to bed).

I did take a look at possible match-ups to better separate the teams:

Augie/Emory paired with St Thomas/Point; Whitewater/ETBU paired with Marietta/St. John Fisher; Mt. Union/Dickinson paired with Macon/Amherst; and Babson/William Patterson paired with Hopkins/Stockton.

The Whitewater sectional might potential require an extra flight, but doesn't necessary have to do so.  I think two first round and, at most, three second round isn't too bad - especially with the diversity we were able to find.

Ah, I see, the job wasn't finished. 

I wonder how much effort is put into avoiding second weekend flights.  When I put a priority on it, it can be done, but it does affect the regional diversity of the 1st weekend pods.

I started to stay up and fix things, then I realized, "It's 1:45am and this whole thing will be useless and forgotten in ten hours."  So there you have it.  It's probably my fault - I fought hard to send Calvin to St. John Fisher.  Then we thought it was humorous to send Calvin into a pod with three Catholic schools [insert Reformation jokes here].

Again, it's only a potential of one extra flight, so I don't think that's outrageous.  Saving flights from the first round could certainly earn the committee that much.  A max potential of five total flights before Salem is pretty darn good, especially when the minimum is three (and that's only if Spalding wins their pod).

It might even be less flights - If Hendrix, Spalding and WashU all win the first weeked, WashU could host with no flights at all - well, I guess St. Thomas would get to fly, but still.

[bopol]

I started to stay up and fix things, then I realized, "It's 1:45am and this whole thing will be useless and forgotten in ten hours."  So there you have it.  It's probably my fault - I fought hard to send Calvin to St. John Fisher.  Then we thought it was humorous to send Calvin into a pod with three Catholic schools [insert Reformation jokes here].

Again, it's only a potential of one extra flight, so I don't think that's outrageous.  Saving flights from the first round could certainly earn the committee that much.  A max potential of five total flights before Salem is pretty darn good, especially when the minimum is three (and that's only if Spalding wins their pod).

It might even be less flights - If Hendrix, Spalding and WashU all win the first weeked, WashU could host with no flights at all - well, I guess St. Thomas would get to fly, but still.

Yeah, I went through the same thing on Saturday night.  I was just giving you a little stuff since Dave McHugh was obnoxious with me after I posted an initial bracket Saturday night at 1 in the morning, despite no attempt coming from the professionals that run the site to create their own projection.  I didn't have to share it, it was mostly for my own fun, but I thought it would spark some conversation and it did.  Didn't quite see where someone on the staff of D3hoops.com needed to dump on me, but I've had that problem here in the past as well. 

Anyhow, it is a fun little problem to work through.  I should try the women's bracket, but I don't have the time for it now and probably will forget later.

[Pat Coleman]

Bopol -- thanks for your input. Definitely the NCAA is more cognizant of second-weekend flights than it used to be but they're the ones with the purse strings. We're the ones with the imagination.

[Pat Coleman]

I was just giving you a little stuff since Dave McHugh was obnoxious with me after I posted an initial bracket Saturday night at 1 in the morning, despite no attempt coming from the professionals that run the site to create their own projection. 

Creating a professional projection we want to put our name behind takes hours and hours of work -- we don't just slap stuff together and post it on a message board.

And unlike you, we don't have the luxury of doing just one. If we do one for men's, we have to do one for women's basketball. It just isn't feasible. We each have a lot of other responsibilities on the site as well. I'd love to be able to do more projections but it just really isn't in the cards for us these days. 

[KnightSlappy]

This has been out for a bit, but glad you guys are able to get some sleep:
http://www.d3hoops.com/playoffs/men/2015/projected-mens-bracket

A few pods only have 2 regions represented and the Randolph Macon bracket is going to require at least one flight.

Back to the drawing board.

They're separated in pairs on that page mostly for ease of reading, Pat and I didn't take the time to separate them into sectional pods (he had to get on to the women's bracket and I had to go to bed).

I did take a look at possible match-ups to better separate the teams:

Augie/Emory paired with St Thomas/Point; Whitewater/ETBU paired with Marietta/St. John Fisher; Mt. Union/Dickinson paired with Macon/Amherst; and Babson/William Patterson paired with Hopkins/Stockton.

The Whitewater sectional might potential require an extra flight, but doesn't necessary have to do so.  I think two first round and, at most, three second round isn't too bad - especially with the diversity we were able to find.

Ah, I see, the job wasn't finished. 

I wonder how much effort is put into avoiding second weekend flights.  When I put a priority on it, it can be done, but it does affect the regional diversity of the 1st weekend pods.

I started to stay up and fix things, then I realized, "It's 1:45am and this whole thing will be useless and forgotten in ten hours."  So there you have it.  It's probably my fault - I fought hard to send Calvin to St. John Fisher.  Then we thought it was humorous to send Calvin into a pod with three Catholic schools [insert Reformation jokes here].

Again, it's only a potential of one extra flight, so I don't think that's outrageous.  Saving flights from the first round could certainly earn the committee that much.  A max potential of five total flights before Salem is pretty darn good, especially when the minimum is three (and that's only if Spalding wins their pod).

It might even be less flights - If Hendrix, Spalding and WashU all win the first weeked, WashU could host with no flights at all - well, I guess St. Thomas would get to fly, but still.

I was surprised the other week when I saw that the NCAA's software counts Calvin-St. John Fisher as within 500 miles since that requires a trip through Canada. Wouldn't players all need a passport to make that work?

[Greek Tragedy]

I always told myself if I ever won a big time lottery, I would buy the site and pay you guys more than what your real jobs pay. 

[NEPAFAN]

I was just giving you a little stuff since Dave McHugh was obnoxious with me after I posted an initial bracket Saturday night at 1 in the morning, despite no attempt coming from the professionals that run the site to create their own projection. 

Creating a professional projection we want to put our name behind takes hours and hours of work -- we don't just slap stuff together and post it on a message board.

And unlike you, we don't have the luxury of doing just one. If we do one for men's, we have to do one for women's basketball. It just isn't feasible. We each have a lot of other responsibilities on the site as well. I'd love to be able to do more projections but it just really isn't in the cards for us these days. 

That doesn't explain why Dave had to give attitude to a poster who took the time to go through the analysis on his own. We should be encouraging each other, not constantly poking holes in each others projections.

[Greek Tragedy]

Poking holes is fine, but it's how it's said. Saying, "I don't think that would work because..." is better than, "why in the world would you do that..." I'm just saying...    

[Pat Coleman]

Ahh, I see, so bopol threw a "back to the drawing board" on me for something a different person said to him. No wonder I didn't get it!

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

This has been out for a bit, but glad you guys are able to get some sleep:
http://www.d3hoops.com/playoffs/men/2015/projected-mens-bracket

A few pods only have 2 regions represented and the Randolph Macon bracket is going to require at least one flight.

Back to the drawing board.

They're separated in pairs on that page mostly for ease of reading, Pat and I didn't take the time to separate them into sectional pods (he had to get on to the women's bracket and I had to go to bed).

I did take a look at possible match-ups to better separate the teams:

Augie/Emory paired with St Thomas/Point; Whitewater/ETBU paired with Marietta/St. John Fisher; Mt. Union/Dickinson paired with Macon/Amherst; and Babson/William Patterson paired with Hopkins/Stockton.

The Whitewater sectional might potential require an extra flight, but doesn't necessary have to do so.  I think two first round and, at most, three second round isn't too bad - especially with the diversity we were able to find.

Ah, I see, the job wasn't finished. 

I wonder how much effort is put into avoiding second weekend flights.  When I put a priority on it, it can be done, but it does affect the regional diversity of the 1st weekend pods.

I started to stay up and fix things, then I realized, "It's 1:45am and this whole thing will be useless and forgotten in ten hours."  So there you have it.  It's probably my fault - I fought hard to send Calvin to St. John Fisher.  Then we thought it was humorous to send Calvin into a pod with three Catholic schools [insert Reformation jokes here].

Again, it's only a potential of one extra flight, so I don't think that's outrageous.  Saving flights from the first round could certainly earn the committee that much.  A max potential of five total flights before Salem is pretty darn good, especially when the minimum is three (and that's only if Spalding wins their pod).

It might even be less flights - If Hendrix, Spalding and WashU all win the first weeked, WashU could host with no flights at all - well, I guess St. Thomas would get to fly, but still.

I was surprised the other week when I saw that the NCAA's software counts Calvin-St. John Fisher as within 500 miles since that requires a trip through Canada. Wouldn't players all need a passport to make that work?

Do you need a passport to drive now?  I thought it was just for flights.

[KnightSlappy]

Do you need a passport to drive now?  I thought it was just for flights.

Rigorous academic research (five minutes on Wikipedia) tells me that passports are not required (merely recommended), but it looks like the alternative is state ID plus birth certificate (perhaps difficult for students to obtain within three days?).

[Bucket]

Do you need a passport to drive now?  I thought it was just for flights.

Rigorous academic research (five minutes on Wikipedia) tells me that passports are not required (merely recommended), but it looks like the alternative is state ID plus birth certificate (perhaps difficult for students to obtain within three days?).

One does need a passport to enter Canada these days, whether by car, boat, or plane.

[dcahill44]

With brackets coming out in about 14 minutes I still cannot decide Plattsburgh or NYU from the East. NYU numbers are just better but I feel like the committee is going to have Plattsburgh in the field. Guess we will see!