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Quote from: Titan Q on February 26, 2018, 07:23:48 AM
Using my final projection, it seems there are 16 very safe teams...

1. Hamilton (NE/NESCAC): .846 (22-4)/.573/6-3 
2. Wesleyan (NE/NESCAC): .778 (21-6)/.590/8-4   
3. UW-Platteville (CE/WIAC: .833 (20-4)/.577/4-1   
4. Whitman (WE/NWC): .962 (25-1)/.515/4-1
5. Swarthmore (MA/CC): .815 (22-5)/.542/3-4   
6. St. John's (WE/MIAC): .880 (22-3)/.524/3-2 
7. Middlebury (NE/NESCAC): .760 (19-6).590/4-6   
8. Wooster (GL/NCAC): .778 (21-6)/.565/4-3
9. Marietta (GL/OAC): .778 (21-6)/.564/4-5   
10. New Jersey City (AT/NJAC): .731 (19-7)/.567/6-4   
11. Emory (SO/UAA): .840 (21-4)/.530/4-2 
12. Christopher Newport (MA/CAC): .777 (21-6)/.546/3-2   
13. UW-Oshkosh (CE/WIAC): .741 (20-7)/.554/2-4   
14. St. Olaf (WE/MIAC): .731 (19-7)/.544/3-2   
15. Albright (MA/Commonwealth): .769 (20-6)/.544/3-2   
16. Franklin and Marshall (MA/CC): .769 (20-6)/.536/3-4 

And then the bubble starts here...

17. North Central (CE/CCIW): .692 (18-8)/.563/4-5   
18. Illinois Wesleyan (CE/CCIW): .731 (19-7)/.550/3-6 
19. Amherst (NE/NESCAC): .680 (17-8)/.570/4-6 
20. Springfield (NE/NEWMAC): .692 (18-8)/.558/4-2 
21. Loras (WE/IIAC): .731 (19-7)/.542/2-3   

Top teams left at the table...
* Ohio Wesleyan (GL/NCAC): .679 (19-9)/.564/3-5 
* LeTourneau (SO/ASC): .852 (23-4)/.511/2-2
* Hobart (East/LL): .808 (21-5)/.526/1-2
* Gwynedd Mercy (AT/CSAC): .769 (20-6)/.519/2-3
* Keene State (NE/LEC): .679/.575/2-6
* UW-River Falls (CE/WIAC): .667 (18-9)/.586/3-7   


I believe NCC and IWU are going to get in...and hope I'm right.  But if they don't get in, this isn't a situation where anyone should do a bunch of complaining about it.  Neither team did what it needed to get in comfortable Pool C position.

Good luck, NCC and IWU fans...gonna be a long morning.

I can't confirm the order of selection obviously, but the 21 Pool Cs are...

1. Hamilton (NE/NESCAC): .846 (22-4)/.573/6-3 
2. Wesleyan (NE/NESCAC): .778 (21-6)/.590/8-4   
3. UW-Platteville (CE/WIAC: .833 (20-4)/.577/4-1   
4. Whitman (WE/NWC): .962 (25-1)/.515/4-1
5. Swarthmore (MA/CC): .815 (22-5)/.542/3-4   
6. St. John's (WE/MIAC): .880 (22-3)/.524/3-2 
7. Middlebury (NE/NESCAC): .760 (19-6).590/4-6   
8. Wooster (GL/NCAC): .778 (21-6)/.565/4-3
9. Marietta (GL/OAC): .778 (21-6)/.564/4-5   
10. New Jersey City (AT/NJAC): .731 (19-7)/.567/6-4   
11. Emory (SO/UAA): .840 (21-4)/.530/4-2 
12. Christopher Newport (MA/CAC): .777 (21-6)/.546/3-2   
13. UW-Oshkosh (CE/WIAC): .741 (20-7)/.554/2-4   
14. St. Olaf (WE/MIAC): .731 (19-7)/.544/3-2   
15. Albright (MA/Commonwealth): .769 (20-6)/.544/3-2   
16. Franklin and Marshall (MA/CC): .769 (20-6)/.536/3-4 
17. North Central (CE/CCIW): .692 (18-8)/.563/4-5   
18. Illinois Wesleyan (CE/CCIW): .731 (19-7)/.550/3-6 
19. Springfield (NE/NEWMAC): .692 (18-8)/.558/4-2 
20. LeTourneau (SO/ASC): .852 (23-4)/.511/2-2
21. Brockport (E/SUNYAC): .731/.529/3-3


I had:
* Amherst (NE/NESCAC): .680 (17-8)/.570/4-6 
* Loras (WE/IIAC): .731 (19-7)/.542/2-3   

They had:
* LeTourneau (SO/ASC): .852 (23-4)/.511/2-2
* Brockport (E/SUNYAC): .731/.529/3-3

lmitzel

Quote from: Titan Q on February 26, 2018, 01:39:59 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on February 26, 2018, 07:23:48 AM
Using my final projection, it seems there are 16 very safe teams...

1. Hamilton (NE/NESCAC): .846 (22-4)/.573/6-3 
2. Wesleyan (NE/NESCAC): .778 (21-6)/.590/8-4   
3. UW-Platteville (CE/WIAC: .833 (20-4)/.577/4-1   
4. Whitman (WE/NWC): .962 (25-1)/.515/4-1
5. Swarthmore (MA/CC): .815 (22-5)/.542/3-4   
6. St. John's (WE/MIAC): .880 (22-3)/.524/3-2 
7. Middlebury (NE/NESCAC): .760 (19-6).590/4-6   
8. Wooster (GL/NCAC): .778 (21-6)/.565/4-3
9. Marietta (GL/OAC): .778 (21-6)/.564/4-5   
10. New Jersey City (AT/NJAC): .731 (19-7)/.567/6-4   
11. Emory (SO/UAA): .840 (21-4)/.530/4-2 
12. Christopher Newport (MA/CAC): .777 (21-6)/.546/3-2   
13. UW-Oshkosh (CE/WIAC): .741 (20-7)/.554/2-4   
14. St. Olaf (WE/MIAC): .731 (19-7)/.544/3-2   
15. Albright (MA/Commonwealth): .769 (20-6)/.544/3-2   
16. Franklin and Marshall (MA/CC): .769 (20-6)/.536/3-4 

And then the bubble starts here...

17. North Central (CE/CCIW): .692 (18-8)/.563/4-5   
18. Illinois Wesleyan (CE/CCIW): .731 (19-7)/.550/3-6 
19. Amherst (NE/NESCAC): .680 (17-8)/.570/4-6 
20. Springfield (NE/NEWMAC): .692 (18-8)/.558/4-2 
21. Loras (WE/IIAC): .731 (19-7)/.542/2-3   

Top teams left at the table...
* Ohio Wesleyan (GL/NCAC): .679 (19-9)/.564/3-5 
* LeTourneau (SO/ASC): .852 (23-4)/.511/2-2
* Hobart (East/LL): .808 (21-5)/.526/1-2
* Gwynedd Mercy (AT/CSAC): .769 (20-6)/.519/2-3
* Keene State (NE/LEC): .679/.575/2-6
* UW-River Falls (CE/WIAC): .667 (18-9)/.586/3-7   


I believe NCC and IWU are going to get in...and hope I'm right.  But if they don't get in, this isn't a situation where anyone should do a bunch of complaining about it.  Neither team did what it needed to get in comfortable Pool C position.

Good luck, NCC and IWU fans...gonna be a long morning.

I can't confirm the order of selection obviously, but the 21 Pool Cs are...

1. Hamilton (NE/NESCAC): .846 (22-4)/.573/6-3 
2. Wesleyan (NE/NESCAC): .778 (21-6)/.590/8-4   
3. UW-Platteville (CE/WIAC: .833 (20-4)/.577/4-1   
4. Whitman (WE/NWC): .962 (25-1)/.515/4-1
5. Swarthmore (MA/CC): .815 (22-5)/.542/3-4   
6. St. John's (WE/MIAC): .880 (22-3)/.524/3-2 
7. Middlebury (NE/NESCAC): .760 (19-6).590/4-6   
8. Wooster (GL/NCAC): .778 (21-6)/.565/4-3
9. Marietta (GL/OAC): .778 (21-6)/.564/4-5   
10. New Jersey City (AT/NJAC): .731 (19-7)/.567/6-4   
11. Emory (SO/UAA): .840 (21-4)/.530/4-2 
12. Christopher Newport (MA/CAC): .777 (21-6)/.546/3-2   
13. UW-Oshkosh (CE/WIAC): .741 (20-7)/.554/2-4   
14. St. Olaf (WE/MIAC): .731 (19-7)/.544/3-2   
15. Albright (MA/Commonwealth): .769 (20-6)/.544/3-2   
16. Franklin and Marshall (MA/CC): .769 (20-6)/.536/3-4 
17. North Central (CE/CCIW): .692 (18-8)/.563/4-5   
18. Illinois Wesleyan (CE/CCIW): .731 (19-7)/.550/3-6 
19. Springfield (NE/NEWMAC): .692 (18-8)/.558/4-2 
20. LeTourneau (SO/ASC): .852 (23-4)/.511/2-2
21. Brockport (E/SUNYAC): .731/.529/303


I had:
* Amherst (NE/NESCAC): .680 (17-8)/.570/4-6 
* Loras (WE/IIAC): .731 (19-7)/.542/2-3   

They had:
* LeTourneau (SO/ASC): .852 (23-4)/.511/2-2
* Brockport (E/SUNYAC): .731/.529/3-3

For a year where you guys admitted it was really tough and were talking about missing a bunch, to get 19 out of 21 is really good. I watched the mock this morning before the selection show and really appreciate the amount of time and energy you all put into it.
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Titan Q

My goal in life is to get all 21 some year.

Just gotta keep grinding.

#D3Bracketology

fantastic50

Quote from: Titan Q on February 26, 2018, 01:43:27 PM
My goal in life is to get all 21 some year.

Just gotta keep grinding.

#D3Bracketology

Love it!

19 for me also, 19 for Matt Snyder, 18 for my students' consensus (some of them got 19, including Brockport, but missed NCC and Springfield)

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: WUPHF on February 26, 2018, 01:39:31 PM
Quote from: deiscanton on February 26, 2018, 12:31:26 PM
Someone made an announcing mistake on the first take, and now they have to record the show again to get it just right.



Um... where did you get that info? Because that isn't even close to the reason.
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Smitty Oom

Yes thanks for everyones hard work they put into it. Obviously you guys lvoe it but just know there is a lot of us that really enjoy the fruits of your labor!

Titan Q, great job on Hoopsville with Dave and Ryan! Really enjoyed you on there.

Dave, great job with the selection show as well. A lot of good info was shared!

The fun is only beginning!

deiscanton

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 26, 2018, 01:58:24 PM
Quote from: WUPHF on February 26, 2018, 01:39:31 PM
Quote from: deiscanton on February 26, 2018, 12:31:26 PM
Someone made an announcing mistake on the first take, and now they have to record the show again to get it just right.





Um... where did you get that info? Because that isn't even close to the reason.

Sorry, I must have misinterpreted your tweet, d-mac.

KnightSlappy

Quote from: fantastic50 on February 26, 2018, 01:48:54 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on February 26, 2018, 01:43:27 PM
My goal in life is to get all 21 some year.

Just gotta keep grinding.

#D3Bracketology

Love it!

19 for me also, 19 for Matt Snyder, 18 for my students' consensus (some of them got 19, including Brockport, but missed NCC and Springfield)

If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants.

I didn't do much projecting this year besides looking at the picks made by you and TitanQ and making minor tweaks.

fantastic50

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 26, 2018, 02:20:49 PM
Quote from: fantastic50 on February 26, 2018, 01:48:54 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on February 26, 2018, 01:43:27 PM
My goal in life is to get all 21 some year.

Just gotta keep grinding.

#D3Bracketology

Love it!

19 for me also, 19 for Matt Snyder, 18 for my students' consensus (some of them got 19, including Brockport, but missed NCC and Springfield)

If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants.

I didn't do much projecting this year besides looking at the picks made by you and TitanQ and making minor tweaks.

Better to work smart than to work hard...

fantastic50

Following up on some of the eventual bubble teams, it's notable that Springfield was 4-2 vRRO, Brockport was 3-3, and LeTourneau perhaps picked up a 3rd win vRRO in the final (yet-unpublished) rankings, but Hobart was 1-2.  Also, Amherst's non-conference SOS was .485, substantially below that of the NESCAC teams that got a Pool C berth.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: deiscanton on February 26, 2018, 02:10:53 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 26, 2018, 01:58:24 PM
Quote from: WUPHF on February 26, 2018, 01:39:31 PM
Quote from: deiscanton on February 26, 2018, 12:31:26 PM
Someone made an announcing mistake on the first take, and now they have to record the show again to get it just right.





Um... where did you get that info? Because that isn't even close to the reason.

Sorry, I must have misinterpreted your tweet, d-mac.

All I said was there was an error... there are a lot of ways to fix errors in this day in age. We didn't need to re-tape the entire thing, but while it might be easy to fix it still takes time.
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LeTourneau and their .511 SOS. Ouch to those with significantly higher SOSs but worse records.
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Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 26, 2018, 02:52:53 PM
Quote from: deiscanton on February 26, 2018, 02:10:53 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 26, 2018, 01:58:24 PM
Quote from: WUPHF on February 26, 2018, 01:39:31 PM
Quote from: deiscanton on February 26, 2018, 12:31:26 PM
Someone made an announcing mistake on the first take, and now they have to record the show again to get it just right.





Um... where did you get that info? Because that isn't even close to the reason.

Sorry, I must have misinterpreted your tweet, d-mac.

All I said was there was an error... there are a lot of ways to fix errors in this day in age. We didn't need to re-tape the entire thing, but while it might be easy to fix it still takes time.

And time that is well spent to fix it, considering that the selection show will remain up on NCAA.com for a least a few years in an on-demand setting. 

warriorcat

With the final regional rankings released, it would appear that the last teams on the table were:

TCNJ
River Falls
Hobart
Ohio Northern
No Mid Atlantic team
Keene St
ETBU
Loras


dunkin3117

Loras, again, left scratching their heads....