Pool C

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

With widespread agreement on the first 18 selections, I am predicting that somebody gets all 20 correct today.

I'm predicting no one gets them all.  Nineteen maybe, but not 20.

[fantastic50]

With widespread agreement on the first 18 selections, I am predicting that somebody gets all 20 correct today.

I'm predicting no one gets them all.  Nineteen maybe, but not 20.

That's usually a very safe bet. This year, I think there is a good chance (though admittedly probably still under 50/50) that someone pulls it off.

[Titan Q]

My final picks.

Data Sources
http://www.fantastic50.net/d3h_men.html

https://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/division-iii-mens-regional-rankings.html

No-Brainers
1. (C) Augustana: .889, 24-3/.547/8-3
2. (S) Randolph-Macon: .893, 25-3/.534/6-3
3. (NE) Hamilton: .885, 23-3/.553/4-3
4. (NE) Williams: .769, 20-6/.598/6-5
5. (C) UW-Oshkosh: .885, 23-3/.542/3-3
6. (W) Loras: .778, 21-6/.587/2-2
7. (GL) Marietta: .769, 20-6/.549/6-4
8. (MA) York (Pa.): .750, 21-7/.561/6-4
9. (W) St. Thomas: .846, 22-4/.532/4-1
10. (GL) Wooster: .821, 23-5/.543/3-4
11. (E) Rochester: .800, 20-5/.539/5-2

Round 12
(AT) New Jersey City: .741, 20-7/.551/6-6
(C) Wheaton: .704, 19-8/.574/4-5
(E) Plattsburgh State: .760, 19-6/.531/6-6
(GL) Capital: .741, 20-7/.546/6-4
(MA) Salisbury: .704, 19-8/.575/4-7
(NE) MIT: .846, 22-4/.555/1-0
(S) Centre: .808, 21-5/.530/1-1
(W) Whitworth: .778, 21-5/.544/1-3

Round 13
(AT) New Jersey City: .741, 20-7/.551/6-6
(C) Wheaton: .704, 19-8/.574/4-5
(E) Plattsburgh State: .760, 19-6/.531/6-6
(GL) La Roche: .889, 24-3/.510/0-1
(MA) Salisbury: .704, 19-8/.575/4-7
(NE) MIT: .846, 22-4/.555/1-0
(S) Centre: .808, 21-5/.530/1-1
(W) Whitworth: .778, 21-5/.544/1-3

Round 14
(AT) New Jersey City: .741, 20-7/.551/6-6
(C) Wheaton: .704, 19-8/.574/4-5
(E) Plattsburgh State: .760, 19-6/.531/6-6
(GL) La Roche: .889, 24-3/.510/0-1
(MA) Salisbury: .704, 19-8/.575/4-7
(NE) MIT: .846, 22-4/.555/1-0
(S) Centre: .808, 21-5/.530/1-1
(W) Whitworth: .778, 21-5/.544/1-3

Round 15
(AT) Ramapo: .667, 18-9/.567/8-5
(C) Wheaton: .704, 19-8/.574/4-5
(E) Brockport: .607, 17-10/.566/6-5
(GL) La Roche: .889, 24-3/.510/0-1
(MA) Salisbury: .704, 19-8/.575/4-7
(NE) MIT: .846, 22-4/.555/1-0
(S) Centre: .808, 21-5/.530/1-1
(W) Whitworth: .778, 21-5/.544/1-3

Round 16
(AT) Ramapo: .667, 18-9/.567/8-5
(C) Wheaton: .704, 19-8/.574/4-5
(E) Brockport: .607, 17-10/.566/6-5
(GL) La Roche: .889, 24-3/.510/0-1
(MA) Salisbury: .704, 19-8/.575/4-7
(NE) Middlebury: .708, 17-7/.600/4-5
(S) Centre: .808, 21-5/.530/1-1
(W) Whitworth: .778, 21-5/.544/1-3

Round 17
(AT) Ramapo: .667, 18-9/.567/8-5
(C) Wheaton: .704, 19-8/.574/4-5
(E) Brockport: .607, 17-10/.566/6-5
(GL) La Roche: .889, 24-3/.510/0-1
(MA) Salisbury: .704, 19-8/.575/4-7
(NE) Eastern Connecticut: .741, 20-7/.557/2-5
(S) Centre: .808, 21-5/.530/1-1
(W) Whitworth: .778, 21-5/.544/1-3

Round 18
(AT) Ramapo: .667, 18-9/.567/8-5
(C) Wheaton: .704, 19-8/.574/4-5
(E) Brockport: .607, 17-10/.566/6-5
(GL) La Roche: .889, 24-3/.510/0-1
(MA) Johns Hopkins: .667, 18-9/.572/2-5
(NE) Eastern Connecticut: .741, 20-7/.557/2-5
(S) Centre: .808, 21-5/.530/1-1
(W) Whitworth: .778, 21-5/.544/1-3

Round 19
(AT) Ramapo: .667, 18-9/.567/8-5
(C) UW-Stevens Point: .667, 18-9/.590/2-6
(E) Brockport: .607, 17-10/.566/6-5
(GL) La Roche: .889, 24-3/.510/0-1
(MA) Johns Hopkins: .667, 18-9/.572/2-5
(NE) Eastern Connecticut: .741, 20-7/.557/2-5
(S) Centre: .808, 21-5/.530/1-1
(W) Whitworth: .778, 21-5/.544/1-3

Round 20
(AT) Montclair State: .630, 17-10/.547/4-7
(C) UW-Stevens Point: .667, 18-9/.590/2-6
(E) Brockport: .607, 17-10/.566/6-5
(GL) La Roche: .889, 24-3/.510/0-1
(MA) Johns Hopkins: .667, 18-9/.572/2-5
(NE) Eastern Connecticut: .741, 20-7/.557/2-5
(S) Centre: .808, 21-5/.530/1-1
(W) Whitworth: .778, 21-5/.544/1-3


I only differ from my Hoopsville panel effort by 1 pick - I have Ramapo, and we had La Roche last night.

[fantastic50]

Centre & Ramapo is a combination that we hadn't seen yet, increasing the chances that somebody gets them all.

[Titan Q]

Centre & Ramapo is a combination that we hadn't seen yet, increasing the chances that somebody gets them all.

I would think this is the year someone gets them all...because if you look at this, everyone agrees on the first 18.  This just comes down to the final 2 picks.  In past years it seems like there was more disagreement on the final 3 or 4.

Now, of course, if the committee sees those first 18 differently...then we're all wrong.

[Titan Q]

Certainly the pick that has me worried is La Roche. That is a really high WP.

[KnightSlappy]

With widespread agreement on the first 18 selections, I am predicting that somebody gets all 20 correct today.

I'm predicting no one gets them all.  Nineteen maybe, but not 20.

Bob has enough predictions out there that I'm sure he's gotten them right at some point.

[Ralph Turner]

Here are my final picks...
1 Augustana
2 Randolph-Macon
3 UW-Oshkosh
4 Hamilton
5 St Thomas
6 Williams
7 Loras
8 Marietta
9 York
10 Middlebury
11 MIT
12 Rochester
13 Wooster
14 NJCU
15 Capital
16 Plattsburgh 20-6/.769 WP/.529 SOS/6-6 vs RRO
17 Wheaton 19-8/.704/.574/4-5
18 Salisbury 19-8/.704/.575/4-7
19 E Connecticut 20-7/.741/.557/2-5
20 Centre 21-5/.808/.530/1-1

Almost picked Gordon 23-5/.821/.522/2-3 as #20, & could see Ramapo 18-9/.667/.569/8-5 despite the low WP

19 of my final picks are the same.  I just have Ramapo instead of Eastern Connecticut.

I'd take Whitworth over Centre - 3 losses to highest ranked team in West Region and possibly the nation.

In your hoopsville panel picks, I'd take Ramapo over Laroche, a clear winner in 2 of the 3 criteria.

Whitworth also lost to UT-Dallas (ASC Pool A) on a neutral floor.

Did UT-Dallas creep into the final Regional Ranking by winning the ASC Tourney?

[Titan Q]

With widespread agreement on the first 18 selections, I am predicting that somebody gets all 20 correct today.

I'm predicting no one gets them all.  Nineteen maybe, but not 20.

Bob has enough predictions out there that I'm sure he's gotten them right at some point.

I just have two!  With my Hoopsville crew and my solo.

[KnightSlappy]

Certainly the pick that has me worried is La Roche. That is a really high WP.

To me it seems like committees have personalities. The VandeStreek committees of yesteryear seemed to be an 'SOS' committee.  Dave's interviews with the committee chair throughout this season makes me feel like they're a 'WP' committee.

[Gregory Sager]

Certainly the pick that has me worried is La Roche. That is a really high WP.

To me it seems like committees have personalities. The VandeStreek committees of yesteryear seemed to be an 'SOS' committee.  Dave's interviews with the committee chair throughout this season makes me feel like they're a 'WP' committee.

Exactly. It's all reading of tea leaves at this point, of course, but Dave's interview with national committee chair Sam Atkinson on Hoopsville earlier this month, combined with a point or two that Mike Blaine made last night on the show and the elimination of the WP/SOS adjustment tool, have me thinking the same thing. It's why I'm going with both La Roche and Centre.

[Titan Q]

Certainly the pick that has me worried is La Roche. That is a really high WP.

To me it seems like committees have personalities. The VandeStreek committees of yesteryear seemed to be an 'SOS' committee.  Dave's interviews with the committee chair throughout this season makes me feel like they're a 'WP' committee.

Exactly. It's all reading of tea leaves at this point, of course, but Dave's interview with national committee chair Sam Atkinson on Hoopsville earlier this month, combined with a point or two that Mike Blaine made last night on the show and the elimination of the WP/SOS adjustment tool, have me thinking the same thing. It's why I'm going with both La Roche and Centre.

We will know very soon!

I listened to all of those interviews too and didn't necessarily hear as strong of a WP push as you guys did.  Just rather that they were going to stop using the WP/SOS adjustment. 

But again, drama over in a few minutes.

[Titan Q]

In...

(AT) Ramapo: .667, 18-9/.567/8-5
(C) UW-La Crosse .654, 17-9/.574/4-2

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

The lesson: the mendoza line is lower if you're from Wisconsin.

[Greek Tragedy]

In...

(AT) Ramapo: .667, 18-9/.567/8-5
(C) UW-La Crosse .654, 17-9/.574/4-2

Wow. Point had a higher winning %, higher SOS, more results vRRO (2-6?), but 0-2 v La Crosse.

I'm not shocked Point didn't get in. I'm shocked La Crosse did!

The lesson: the mendoza line is lower if you're from Wisconsin.

Ouch!