Pool C

[KnightSlappy]

Certainly the pick that has me worried is La Roche. That is a really high WP.

To me it seems like committees have personalities. The VandeStreek committees of yesteryear seemed to be an 'SOS' committee.  Dave's interviews with the committee chair throughout this season makes me feel like they're a 'WP' committee.

Exactly. It's all reading of tea leaves at this point, of course, but Dave's interview with national committee chair Sam Atkinson on Hoopsville earlier this month, combined with a point or two that Mike Blaine made last night on the show and the elimination of the WP/SOS adjustment tool, have me thinking the same thing. It's why I'm going with both La Roche and Centre.

We will know very soon!

I listened to all of those interviews too and didn't necessarily hear as strong of a WP push as you guys did.  Just rather that they were going to stop using the WP/SOS adjustment. 

But again, drama over in a few minutes.

In...

(AT) Ramapo: .667, 18-9/.567/8-5
(C) UW-La Crosse .654, 17-9/.574/4-2

So nothing really changed! The committee moved away from the SOS to WINS conversion formula but are still willing to pick low WP/high SOS teams and leave out high WP/low SOS teams.

[fantastic50]

An impressive 19/20 correct for Ryan Scott, for TitanQ, and for Greek Tragedy.  Getting 18 right (for the Hoopsville panel, for me, etc.) is a fairly run-of-the-mill result this year.

[KnightSlappy]

I'm as big of a SOS slappy as there is but, upon further review, I don't think the UW-La Crosse pick was justified. I would have rather seen La Roche or Gordon or Centre in there. Or if you wanted to go big on SOS, go Wesleyan.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

The La Crosse pick is bugging me as well, to be honest.

I get the comment about "entire resume" that we have gotten from Sam Atkinson all season ... but ... I'm just a little confused still on La Crosse.

[AO]

I'm as big of a SOS slappy as there is but, upon further review, I don't think the UW-La Crosse pick was justified. I would have rather seen La Roche or Gordon or Centre in there. Or if you wanted to go big on SOS, go Wesleyan.

La Crosse would definitely have the best win on the board at that point and perhaps the committee does understand how the SOS comparison between La Crosse and Wesleyan isn't very meaningful. 

[fantastic50]

None of us even had UW-L on our boards as a realistic candidate.  Ramapo I can live with, but UW-L is a stretch.

[KnightSlappy]

I'm as big of a SOS slappy as there is but, upon further review, I don't think the UW-La Crosse pick was justified. I would have rather seen La Roche or Gordon or Centre in there. Or if you wanted to go big on SOS, go Wesleyan.

La Crosse would definitely have the best win on the board at that point and perhaps the committee does understand how the SOS comparison between La Crosse and Wesleyan isn't very meaningful.

Why wouldn't the SOS comparison be meaningful with Wesleyan? I know the NESCAC doesn't play a double round robin, but Wesleyan played non-conference games with Amherst and Williams and also scheduled Eastern Connecticut, Nichols, and Plattsbugh State.

[sac]

LaCrosse ended up ranked ahead of Stevens Point in the final Central Rankings as they were after the week 3 rankings.  The D3hoops pickers had Stevens Point ranked ahead of LaCrosse so thats why they were never discussed on the show.

Given the lean of their picks to W% I don't think they would have discussed LaCrosse much anyway.  Its a curious pick I think.

[sac]

All I can figure is Whitewater got the final Central rankings slot and that gave LaCrosse a 6-2 RRO ?

[AO]

I'm as big of a SOS slappy as there is but, upon further review, I don't think the UW-La Crosse pick was justified. I would have rather seen La Roche or Gordon or Centre in there. Or if you wanted to go big on SOS, go Wesleyan.

La Crosse would definitely have the best win on the board at that point and perhaps the committee does understand how the SOS comparison between La Crosse and Wesleyan isn't very meaningful.

Why wouldn't the SOS comparison be meaningful with Wesleyan? I know the NESCAC doesn't play a double round robin, but Wesleyan played non-conference games with Amherst and Williams and also scheduled Eastern Connecticut, Nichols, and Plattsbugh State.

Wesleyan played a tough schedule for sure, but I think La Crosse's was tougher.  Wesleyan not only gets that single round robin boost, but they also get the boost from the broken home/away multiplier.  With their extra non-conference games they can schedule the bad teams for home games that don't negatively impact their SOS as much and can schedule a game at Farmingdale who has an inflated record in a weak region and get an extra boost from playing them on the road.

[Greek Tragedy]

All I can figure is Whitewater got the final Central rankings slot and that gave LaCrosse a 6-2 RRO ?

Probably Platteville. They went 3-0 for the week. If they did, Point was 0-3 v PL. La Crosse 1-2.

[sac]

All I can figure is Whitewater got the final Central rankings slot and that gave LaCrosse a 6-2 RRO ?

Probably Platteville. They went 3-0 for the week. If they did, Point was 0-3 v PL. La Crosse 1-2.

Maybe both 

[Greek Tragedy]

There was no reason for Whitewater to be ranked. They lost in the 1st round of the WIAC tournament to Platteville on Tuesday.

[Greek Tragedy]

An impressive 19/20 correct for Ryan Scott, for TitanQ, and for Greek Tragedy.  Getting 18 right (for the Hoopsville panel, for me, etc.) is a fairly run-of-the-mill result this year.

I picked the wrong WIAC team. SMH. LOL

[Titan Q]

Final regional rankings...

https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-final

La Roche was 3 teams away from ever seeing the table -- behind Mount Union, Wilmington, Wabash.