Pool C

Started by Pat Coleman, January 20, 2006, 02:35:54 PM

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Titan Q

Remember, teams sitting at spots 16 through 20 are probably out -- every year there are about 5 major upsets where presumed Pool A teams steal Pool C bids.

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The top current Presumed Pool A teams that would be in position to steal Pool C bids...

1. Swarthmore (MA/CC)  1.000/.584/6-0 (*Johns Hopkins)
2. UW-Platteville (C/WIAC)  .857/.602/4-1 (*UW-La Crosse)
3. Wooster (GL/NCAC)  .867/.589/4-2 (*Wittenberg)
4. Nebraska Wesleyan (W/ARC)  .882/.556/2-1 (*Buena Vista)
5. St. John's (W/MIAC)  .933/.515/3-1 (*St. Thomas)
6. Marietta (GL/OAC)  .933/.507/3-0 (*Mount Union)
7. Randolph Macon (S/ODAC)  .938/.507/2-0 (*Virginia Wesleyan)
8. Colby (NE/NESCAC) 1.000/.522/1-0 (*Tufts or Middlebury)
9. Springfield (NE/NEWMAC)  .800/.616/1-3 (*Babson)
10. Albion (GL/MIAA)  .867/.563/1-2   
11. Christopher Newport (MA/CAC)  .778/.573/2-3
12. Whitworth (W/NWC)  .800/.544/2-3
13. Benedictine (C/NACC)  .800/.523/3-0
14. North Central (C/CCIW)  .813/.513/1-1 (*Elmhurst)   
15. St. Norbert (C/MWC)  .867/.554/1-2
16. Wash U (C/UAA)  .846/.533/1-1 (*Emory or Brandeis)
17. RPI (E/LL)  .846/.505/2-1 (*Hobart)

*Potentially not a huge deal if a swap out with a current Pool C projected team.

I have bolded that ones that seem to be the most likely to cause Pool C drama.

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Courtesy of Drew Pasteur and his @d3bubble twitter account, here is the data broken into conferences. 

Looks like NESCAC, WIAC, and UAA could really gobble up a good amount of the Pool C's this year if things stay the course. There will be some interesting decisions made with high win/loss % and low SOS numbers this year. Witt/Yeshiva/St John's/both GNAC teams (St Joes CN/Magnus) all could present interesting problems for the committee!

NESCAC: (5 Contenders / 3 IN): Middlebury (VERY SAFE) / Colby (VERY SAFE) / Tufts (SAFE) / Amherst (BUBBLE OUT) / Wesleyan (MARG)
WIAC: (5 Contenders / 3 IN): Platteville (VERY SAFE) / La Crosse (BUBBLE IN) / Oshkosh (BUBBLE IN) / Stevens Point (BUBBLE OUT) / Eau Claire (MARG)
UAA: (4 Contenders / 3 IN): Emory (VERY SAFE) / Wash U (BUBBLE IN) / Rochester (BUBBLE IN / Brandeis (FARTHER OUT)
NEWMAC: (4 Contenders / 2 IN): Springfield (VERY SAFE) / WPI (SAFE) / Babson (BUBBLE OUT) / Emerson (MARG)
ODAC: (4 Contenders / 2 IN): Macon (VERY SAFE) / VA Wesleyan (BUBBLE IN) / Guilford (FARTHER OUT) / Lynchburg (MARG)
CENT: (2 Contenders / 2 IN): Swat (VERY SAFE) / Hopkins (VERY SAFE)
OAC: (2 Contenders / 2 IN): Mt Union (VERY SAFE) / Marietta (SAFE)
ARC: (2 Contenders / 2 IN): Neb Wesleyan (VERY SAFE) / Buena Vista (BUBBLE IN)
CCIW: (3 Contenders / 1 IN): Elmhurst (SAFE) / Augustana (BUBBLE OUT) / N Central (FARTHER OUT)
NCAC: (3 Contenders / 1 IN): Wooster (SAFE) / Witt (BUBBLE OUT/Low SOS) / Ohio Wes (MARG)
LL: (3 Contenders / 1 IN): Hobart (BUBBLE IN) / RPI (BUBBLE OUT) / Union (MARG)
SUNYAC: (3 Contenders / 1 IN): Brockport (BUBBLE IN) / Oneonta (MARG) / Oswego (MARG)
MIAC: (2 Contenders / 1 IN): St Thomas (VERY SAFE) / St John's (BUBBLE OUT/Low SOS)
CAC: (2 Contenders / 1 IN): CNU (SAFE) / York (FARTHER OUT)
MWC: (1 Contender / 1 IN): St Norbert (VERY SAFE)
MIAA: (1 Contender / 1 IN): Albion (SAFE)
SAA: (1 Contender / 1 IN): Centre (SAFE)
MAC COM: (1 Contender / 1 IN): Widener (BUBBLE IN)
MAC FRE: (1 Contender / 1 IN): Stevens (BUBBLE IN)
NACC: (1 Contender / 1 IN): Benedictine (BUBBLE IN)
ASC: (3 Contenders / 0 IN): Letourneau (BUBBLE OUT) / Texas Dallas (FARTHER OUT) / E Tex Baptist (FARTHER OUT)
GNAC: (2 Contenders / 0 IN): St Joes CN (FARTHER OUT/Low SOS) / Magnus (MARG/Low SOS)
LAND: (1 Contender / 0 IN): Drew (BUBBLE OUT)
NWC: (1 Contender / 0 IN): Whitworth (BUBBLE OUT)
CCC: (1 Contender / 0 IN): Endicott (FARTHER OUT)
E8: (1 Contender / 0 IN): Utica (MARG)
NJAC: (1 Contender / 0 IN): TCNJ (MARG)
HCAC: (1 Contender / 0 IN): Hanover (MARG)

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

We are just turning into the second half of conference seasons. The SOS numbers are going to change wildly. So will WL numbers.

I know everyone is fascinated, but we won't get a good sense of where teams sit for two more weeks at the very least ... and even when the Regional Rankings first come out, we see dramatic changes by the end of most seasons.
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...or we could just let people discuss Pool C

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Some of these Pool C projections actually project end of year SOS as well, as part of the algorithm.
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Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 29, 2020, 12:55:20 PM
We are just turning into the second half of conference seasons. The SOS numbers are going to change wildly. So will WL numbers.

I know everyone is fascinated, but we won't get a good sense of where teams sit for two more weeks at the very least ... and even when the Regional Rankings first come out, we see dramatic changes by the end of most seasons.

Yeah, I mean half of the things that are said here need a disclaimer.

I think you should do everything you can to encourage more content.

I do not have data, but it seems to me that there has been a continued slide in posting for the past few years.

Pat Coleman

The nature of community on the Internet definitely shifted toward social media and away from standalone forums such as this one several years back. But we continue. :)
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thebear

Just wondering why Potsdam is left out of the SUNYAC projections? 

They have wins over Brockport by 16, and Oswego by 10, and lost by 2 on a shot with :04 left at Oneonta.
They have added a major new piece in soph Isaiah Brown, who is averaging 24.6 points and 9.6 rebounds since joining the team. 
The Oneonta loss was first semester, Brown hadn't joined the team and second leading scorer Jayquan Thomas 17.5 ppg did not play in that game.

I guess the computer isn't able to handle nuances like this?

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Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 29, 2020, 01:21:40 PM
The nature of community on the Internet definitely shifted toward social media and away from standalone forums such as this one several years back. But we continue.

There is some truth to this, but if you look at Twitter engagement, as an example, I can go through most posts of the 5-10 most prolific handles and see next to no conversation on most Tweets.  There are always a lot of likes and such, but if Twitter is moving people away from d3boards.com, then people are talking far less than they used to.  Maybe they all moved to TikTok?

I think people want more d3boards.com content because why else would so many people be reading the UAA thread when for most of the year, it is just me rambling on about God knows what...