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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: AO on February 04, 2020, 05:29:32 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 04, 2020, 04:19:13 PM
My point being ... it is always better to play better opponents than to play ones that just pad the WL numbers. That's been proven out for awhile.

Granted, I wish it wasn't as strong in that side of the equation and it might start sliding away from the SOS strength, but it is still better to have a better schedule than cupcakes.
St. John's has 5 non-conference games, didn't play any of them at home.  Played Nebraska Wesleyan on a neutral court and at 14-5 Linfield.  The other 3 teams are having one of their worst seasons in the last decade, but it still wouldn't look nearly as bad to the NCAA if they had played those 3 games at home instead of on the road.

AO - you might be missing my point. My argument is that they ONLY have five games to work with, essentially. That the conference schedule doesn't allow them to have 7 or 8 games to influences their metrics. My argument has nothing to do with where they are playing or the weight.
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AO

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 04, 2020, 11:03:37 PM
Quote from: AO on February 04, 2020, 05:29:32 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 04, 2020, 04:19:13 PM
My point being ... it is always better to play better opponents than to play ones that just pad the WL numbers. That's been proven out for awhile.

Granted, I wish it wasn't as strong in that side of the equation and it might start sliding away from the SOS strength, but it is still better to have a better schedule than cupcakes.
St. John's has 5 non-conference games, didn't play any of them at home.  Played Nebraska Wesleyan on a neutral court and at 14-5 Linfield.  The other 3 teams are having one of their worst seasons in the last decade, but it still wouldn't look nearly as bad to the NCAA if they had played those 3 games at home instead of on the road.

AO - you might be missing my point. My argument is that they ONLY have five games to work with, essentially. That the conference schedule doesn't allow them to have 7 or 8 games to influences their metrics. My argument has nothing to do with where they are playing or the weight.
Only having 5 non-conference games wouldn't hurt them as much as it does if the NCAA had better metrics. Even if the Johnnies had another couple non-conference games to work with that's just two more opportunities to get negatively affected by the broken multiplier.

sac

To be fair though the MIAC has partially solved the 5-game non-conference problem by eliminating St. Thomas thereby granting each team two more non-conference dates.

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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: sac on February 05, 2020, 01:56:45 AM
To be fair though the MIAC has partially solved the 5-game non-conference problem by eliminating St. Thomas thereby granting each team two more non-conference dates.

You're welcome.

In 2021. Not this year and not next year.
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The Division III basketball regular season has officially entered it's final month. Where has the time gone?

Seems like a perfect time to take a break for lunch. Chat about what is ahead and teams which have positioned themselves well to still be playing next month.

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Pool C Weekend Impact Games (Home team listed first) (Impact Game is between 2 Pool C Contenders or "Tricky" game for a Contender):
Friday 730 Oneonta vs Brockport
Friday 730 Hobart vs St Lawrence
Friday 730 RPI vs Ithaca
Friday 800 Rochester vs Wash U
Friday 800 Case Western vs Brandeis
Saturday 200 Macon vs Lynchburg
Saturday 200 Augsburg vs St Johns
Saturday 300 Colby vs Amherst
Saturday 300 Springfield vs Emerson
Saturday 400 Texas Dallas vs E Texas Baptist
Saturday 400 York vs Christopher Newport
Saturday 600 La Crosse vs Oshkosh
Saturday 600 Eau Claire vs Stevens Point
Saturday 800 North Central vs Elmhurst
Saturday 800 Illinois Wesleyan vs Augustana
Sunday 1200 Emory vs Wash U
Sunday 1200 Carnegie Melon vs Brandeis
Sunday 100 Wesleyan vs Middlebury

UAA, CCIW and WIAC with some great weekend match ups between bubble type teams this week! Could go a long way in deciding who the Pool C teams will be in less than a month. 

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Greek Tragedy

I believe regional rankings come out next week. Can we start talking about Pool C without Dave rolling his eyes at us? LOL  ??? ::) :P ;D ;)
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 09, 2020, 10:22:37 PM
I believe regional rankings come out next week. Can we start talking about Pool C without Dave rolling his eyes at us? LOL  ??? ::) :P ;D ;)

Wow ... I have the power to stop you and concern you?

Fascinating.

You roll your eyes at a lot of things ... it stop anyone?
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D3RetiredHooper

There are some big games during the week this week which will certainly have an impact on the selection committee in a few weeks. On Wednesday Swat @ Hopkins and Mt Union @ Marietta and on Friday Tufts @ Middlebury probably do not have much impact on Pool C but could have an impact on who hosts first weekend and a potential round of 16 game.

Mid-Week Pool C Impact Games (Courtesy of Drew Pasteur @D3bubble, currently projected "IN" are underlined):
W 600 Stevens @ DeSales
W 700 WPI @ Babson
W 700 Drew @ Susquehanna
W 700 Guilford @ Lynchburg
W 800 Elmhurst @ Illinois Wesleyan
W 800 North Central @ Augustana
W 800 Oshkosh @ Stevens Point
F 730 Hobart @ RPI
F 800 Brandeis @ Rochester

sac

Oshkosh/Steven Point is almost an elimination game for Pool C purposes. 


Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: sac on February 11, 2020, 02:22:01 PM
Oshkosh/Steven Point is almost an elimination game for Pool C purposes.

I kinda think the last games each lost might've eliminated them.  To be in Pool C, they're going to take an additional loss anyway; it's going to be tough for either.
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sac

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 11, 2020, 03:05:30 PM
Quote from: sac on February 11, 2020, 02:22:01 PM
Oshkosh/Steven Point is almost an elimination game for Pool C purposes.

I kinda think the last games each lost might've eliminated them.  To be in Pool C, they're going to take an additional loss anyway; it's going to be tough for either.

Yeah, they're kinda both in "outlier" territory.  I haven't seen Bob tackle the Central region ranking this week but I think at least one is still within the top 8 or 9 maybe.

Greek Tragedy

Oshkosh already has 8 losses. Point has 7. Point basically needs to win out (and loss in conference tourney) to have any shot at a Pool C bid. So, yeah. It IS an elimination game IMO, not almost.
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