Pool C

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

You did two Round 17s, Bob.  Even you don't have Augustana in.

[Titan Q]

You did two Round 17s, Bob.  Even you don't have Augustana in.

Fixed.

[Greek Tragedy]

W1 RNK       WK2 RNK       TEAM        WK2 W%       WK2 SOS       WK2 vRRO       WK1 W%       WK1 SOS       WK2 w%-WK1 W%       WK2 SOS – WK1 SOS       1       1       Platteville       0.857       0.554       (3-0)       0.842       0.566       0.015       -0.012       2       2       Wash U       0.818       0.565       (5-3)       0.800       0.565       0.018       0       3       3       Benedictine       0.826       0.494       (3-0)       0.857       0.493       -0.031       0.001       6       4       NCC       0.826       0.535       (4-1)       0.810       0.523       0.016       0.012       8       5       Elmhurst       0.792       0.527       (3-3)       0.818       0.526       -0.026       0.001       4       6       SNC       0.870       0.531       (1-2)       0.857       0.536       0.013       -0.005       na       7       Oshkosh       0.652       0.612       (3-6)       0.619       0.618       0.033       -0.006       na       8       La Crosse       0.783       0.531       (3-2)       0.762       0.530       0.021       0.001       5       na       Eau Claire       0.739       0.568       (1-3)       0.714       0.580       0.025       -0.012       7       na       Augustana       0.708       0.583       (2-4)       0.727       0.578       -0.019       0.005       na       na       Stevens Point       0.609       0.604       (3-4)       0.667       0.603       -0.058       0.001       na       na       IWU       0.652       0.565       (3-4)       0.667       0.557       -0.015       0.008       na       na       Wheaton IL       0.609       0.549       (0-5)       0.619       0.546       -0.01       0.003

[KnightSlappy]

Awesome stuff Bob. I feel like we don't have as many options of teams with quality RROs in the last 5 selections or so? Or is that a false impression of mine?

[Titan Q]

Awesome stuff Bob. I feel like we don't have as many options of teams with quality RROs in the last 5 selections or so? Or is that a false impression of mine?

I think you are right.  In the last several rounds it seemed like 2 wins vs RRO was a separating factor.

[D3RetiredHooper]

Nice work Bob.  That is good stuff and will be interesting to see how important R vRRO's is to the national committee, as in your mock you made it seem like the most important of the 5 criteria when comparing across regions. I know last year the committee looked at Record vs top 50 RPI and Record vs top 100 RPI when figuring out the Pool C nominations to make it fairer for teams competing in tougher regions. (For example, the 12th best team in the Central is probably higher RPI than the 6th best team in the Atlantic). 

I don't think that info is accurate with TCNJ. They are 17-8 and currently tied with Stockton for the Pool A in the NJAC.  Also, Oneonta lost yesterday and now has another loss, they are 17-6 with a .739 W%. I don't see how the East gets 3 Pool C's this year but crazier things have happened.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Nice work Bob.  That is good stuff and will be interesting to see how important R vRRO's is to the national committee, as in your mock you made it seem like the most important of the 5 criteria when comparing across regions. I know last year the committee looked at Record vs top 50 RPI and Record vs top 100 RPI when figuring out the Pool C nominations to make it fairer for teams competing in tougher regions. (For example, the 12th best team in the Central is probably higher RPI than the 6th best team in the Atlantic). 

I don't think that info is accurate with TCNJ. They are 17-8 and currently tied with Stockton for the Pool A in the NJAC.  Also, Oneonta lost yesterday and now has another loss, they are 17-6 with a .739 W%. I don't see how the East gets 3 Pool C's this year but crazier things have happened.

I don't think the vRRO is more important than anything else ... it just another tool. Each comparison makes it more interesting and all data can tell a different story.

Per the "Top 50" and "Top 100" ... that may not have been the right thing for the committee to do. That is a slippery slope since that isn't written in the criteria and they seemed to make a stretch to do so. I wouldn't be surprised if that isn't as involved this time around. That is essentially using an RPI like thinking to a number that isn't an RPI.

[Greek Tragedy]

In looking at Oshkosh, La Crosse and Eau Claire, I think vRRO was the difference. Oshkosh was 3-6, La Crosse 3-2 and Eau Claire just 1-3.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

In looking at Oshkosh, La Crosse and Eau Claire, I think vRRO was the difference. Oshkosh was 3-6, La Crosse 3-2 and Eau Claire just 1-3.

And WHO those wins and losses were to ... not just a total number,

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

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[Titan Q]

Round 17
AT - Purchase (Sky): .696/.513/1-2
C - UW-La Crosse (WIAC): .783/.532/1-4
E - Rochester (UAA): .682/.596/2-6
GL - Wabash (NCAC): .696/.539/1-4
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .792/.531/1-4
NE - Brandeis (UAA): .682/.559/2-5
S - East TX Baptist (ASC): .783/.515/1-3
W - Loras (ARC): .739/.530/1-2

Round 18
AT - Purchase (Sky): .696/.513/1-2
C - UW-La Crosse (WIAC): .783/.532/1-4
E - SUNY Oneonta (SUNYAC): .773/.508/3-3
GL - Wabash (NCAC): .696/.539/1-4
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .792/.531/1-4
NE - Brandeis (UAA): .682/.559/2-5
S - East TX Baptist (ASC): .783/.515/1-3
W - Loras (ARC): .739/.530/1-2

Round 19
AT - Purchase (Sky): .696/.513/1-2
C - UW-La Crosse (WIAC): .783/.532/1-4
E - SUNY Potsdam (SUNYAC): .818/.506/2-4
GL - Wabash (NCAC): .696/.539/1-4
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .792/.531/1-4
NE - Brandeis (UAA): .682/.559/2-5
S - East TX Baptist (ASC): .783/.515/1-3
W - Loras (ARC): .739/.530/1-2

Round 20
AT - Purchase (Sky): .696/.513/1-2
C - UW-La Crosse (WIAC): .783/.532/1-4
E - SUNY Potsdam (SUNYAC): .818/.506/2-4
GL - Wabash (NCAC): .696/.539/1-4
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .792/.531/1-4
NE - Albertus Magnus (GNAC): .818/.488/2-2
S - East TX Baptist (ASC): .783/.515/1-3
W - Loras (ARC): .739/.530/1-2

After losses last night, I think Brandeis and Rochester are officially on the wrong side of the bubble. 

[Titan Q]

Several big Pool C-related games today:

* (2pm) St. John's at Bethel - with that low SOS, SJU can't afford to let their WP slip.

* (2pm) Babson at Springfield - a win would lock Babson into a Pool C selection.

* (4pm) Benedictine at Concordia WI - a loss could put BU in a tie for the NACC title; maybe moving from Pool A towards C?

* (4pm) Brockport at Oswego State - Oswego could move into the East rankings with a win.

* (4pm) Eau Claire at La Crosse - maybe the biggest implications of all games today; playing for a regional ranking spot.

* (4pm) Williams at Amherst - Amherst probably on the right side of the end of the bubble now; with a loss probably out.

* (4pm) McMurray at Texas-Dallas - makes the list simply because I am going to this game; Comets can't afford to get upset today.

* (5pm) Loras at Nebraska Wesleyan - Loras could get on the right side of the bubble with a win.

* (5pm) Buena Vista at Simpson - BV is on the wrong side of the bubble now; a loss would knock them out.

* (6pm) Oshkosh at River Falls - UWO can't afford a loss before the WIAC conf tourney title game to have a chance.

* (8pm) Platteville at Stevens Point - the Pointers could stay alive in that messy bottom of the Central picture; a sweep over Central #1 UWP would be huge.

* (9pm) Whitworth at Linfield - a Linfield win leads to a tie for the NWC title (who wins the tie breaker for seeding?)

[Titan Q]

Round 3
AT - TCNJ (NJAC): .826/.543/2-5
C - Wash U (UAA): .818/.565/3-3
E - Hobart (LL): .826/.532/3-3
GL - Marietta (OAC): .826/.534/3-3
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .792/.531/1-4
NE - WPI (NEWMAC): .826/.544/3-4
S - LeTourneau (ASC): .783/.556/2-4
W - St. John's (MIAC): .917/.494/3-2

MIT 59
WPI 55

[Titan Q]

* (2pm) Babson at Springfield - a win would lock Babson into a Pool C selection.

Springfield 84
Babson 78 (OT)

[Titan Q]

Guilford knocks off #2 Randolph-Macon.

This should get Guilford in the South rankings.