Pool C

[Titan Q]

Based on the 3rd regional rankings (before games of Tues 2/25)...

Round 1
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - Elmhurst (CCIW): .800/.527/3-2
E - Hobart (LL): .840/.508/3-3
GL - Marietta (OAC): .800/.525/3-3
MA - Johns Hopkins (CC): .880/.563/5-3
NE - Middlebury (NESCAC): .800/.571/5-2
S - Emory (UAA): .833/.559/5-1
W - St. Thomas (MIAC): .920/.541/4-2

Round 2
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - Elmhurst (CCIW): .800/.527/3-2
E - Hobart (LL): .840/.508/3-3
GL - Marietta (OAC): .800/.525/3-3
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .800/.528/1-4
NE - Middlebury (NESCAC): .800/.571/5-2
S - Emory (UAA): .833/.559/5-1
W - St. Thomas (MIAC): .920/.541/4-2

Round 3
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - Elmhurst (CCIW): .800/.527/3-2
E - Hobart (LL): .840/.508/3-3
GL - Marietta (OAC): .800/.525/3-3
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .800/.528/1-4
NE - Middlebury (NESCAC): .800/.571/5-2
S - Emory (UAA): .833/.559/5-1
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 4
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - Elmhurst (CCIW): .800/.527/3-2
E - Hobart (LL): .840/.508/3-3
GL - Marietta (OAC): .800/.525/3-3
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .800/.528/1-4
NE - Middlebury (NESCAC): .800/.571/5-2
S - LeTourneau (ASC): .800/.550/2-4
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 5
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - Elmhurst (CCIW): .800/.527/3-2
E - Hobart (LL): .840/.508/3-3
GL - Marietta (OAC): .800/.525/3-3
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .800/.528/1-4
NE - Tufts (NESCAC): .760/.583/4-4
S - LeTourneau (ASC): .800/.550/2-4
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 6
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - Elmhurst (CCIW): .800/.527/3-2
E - Hobart (LL): .840/.508/3-3
GL - Marietta (OAC): .800/.525/3-3
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .800/.528/1-4
NE - WPI (NEWMAC): .760/.544/3-5
S - LeTourneau (ASC): .800/.550/2-4
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 7
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - Elmhurst (CCIW): .800/.527/3-2
E - Hobart (LL): .840/.508/3-3
GL - Marietta (OAC): .800/.525/3-3
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .800/.528/1-4
NE - WPI (NEWMAC): .760/.544/3-5
S - Virginia Wesleyan (ODAC): .833/.511/2-1
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 8
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - Elmhurst (CCIW): .800/.527/3-2
E - Hobart (LL): .840/.508/3-3
GL - Wooster (NCAC): .720/.560/4-3
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .800/.528/1-4
NE - WPI (NEWMAC): .760/.544/3-5
S - Virginia Wesleyan (ODAC): .833/.511/2-1
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 9
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - Elmhurst (CCIW): .800/.527/3-2
E - Hobart (LL): .840/.508/3-3
GL - Wooster (NCAC): .720/.560/4-3
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .800/.528/1-4
NE - Babson (NEWMAC): .800/.526/3-3
S - Virginia Wesleyan (ODAC): .833/.511/2-1
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 10
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - Elmhurst (CCIW): .800/.527/3-2
E - Rochester (UAA): .667/.586/2-6
GL - Wooster (NCAC): .720/.560/4-3
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .800/.528/1-4
NE - Babson (NEWMAC): .800/.526/3-3
S - Virginia Wesleyan (ODAC): .833/.511/2-1
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 11
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - UW-Oshkosh (WIAC): .680/.598/3-5
E - Rochester (UAA): .667/.586/2-6
GL - Wooster (NCAC): .720/.560/4-3
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .800/.528/1-4
NE - Babson (NEWMAC): .800/.526/3-3
S - Virginia Wesleyan (ODAC): .833/.511/2-1
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 12
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - UW-Oshkosh (WIAC): .680/.598/3-5
E - Rochester (UAA): .667/.586/2-6
GL - Wooster (NCAC): .720/.560/4-3
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .800/.528/1-4
NE - Amherst (NESCAC): .720/.543/3-2
S - Virginia Wesleyan (ODAC): .833/.511/2-1
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 13
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - UW-Oshkosh (WIAC): .680/.598/3-5
E - Rochester (UAA): .667/.586/2-6
GL - Wabash (NCAC): .680/.545/1-5
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .800/.528/1-4
NE - Amherst (NESCAC): .720/.543/3-2
S - Virginia Wesleyan (ODAC): .833/.511/2-1
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 14
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - UW-La Crosse (WIAC): .800/.536/1-4
E - Rochester (UAA): .667/.586/2-6
GL - Wabash (NCAC): .680/.545/1-5
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .800/.528/1-4
NE - Amherst (NESCAC): .720/.543/3-2
S - Virginia Wesleyan (ODAC): .833/.511/2-1
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 15
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - UW-La Crosse (WIAC): .800/.536/1-4
E - Rochester (UAA): .667/.586/2-6
GL - Wabash (NCAC): .680/.545/1-5
MA - York Pa. (CAC): .800/.528/1-4
NE - Trinity CT (NESCAC): .680/.547/3-4
S - Virginia Wesleyan (ODAC): .833/.511/2-1
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 16
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - UW-La Crosse (WIAC): .800/.536/1-4
E - Rochester (UAA): .667/.586/2-6
GL - Wabash (NCAC): .680/.545/1-5
MA - Muhlenberg (CC): .720/.522/1-4
NE - Trinity CT (NESCAC): .680/.547/3-4
S - Virginia Wesleyan (ODAC): .833/.511/2-1
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 17
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - UW-La Crosse (WIAC): .800/.536/1-4
E - Rochester (UAA): .667/.586/2-6
GL - Wabash (NCAC): .680/.545/1-5
MA - Muhlenberg (CC): .720/.522/1-4
NE - Trinity CT (NESCAC): .680/.547/3-4
S - Guilford (ODAC): .720/.550/2-4
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 18
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - Augustana (CCIW): .720/.570/2-6
E - Rochester (UAA): .667/.586/2-6
GL - Wabash (NCAC): .680/.545/1-5
MA - Muhlenberg (CC): .720/.522/1-4
NE - Trinity CT (NESCAC): .680/.547/3-4
S - Guilford (ODAC): .720/.550/2-4
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 19
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - UW-Eau Claire: .680/.580/2-7
E - Rochester (UAA): .667/.586/2-6
GL - Wabash (NCAC): .680/.545/1-5
MA - Muhlenberg (CC): .720/.522/1-4
NE - Trinity CT (NESCAC): .680/.547/3-4
S - Guilford (ODAC): .720/.550/2-4
W - Whitworth (NWC): .800/.520/1-2

Round 20
AT - Eastern (MACF): .609/.561/4-5
C - UW-Eau Claire: .680/.580/2-7
E - Rochester (UAA): .667/.586/2-6
GL - Wabash (NCAC): .680/.545/1-5
MA - Muhlenberg (CC): .720/.522/1-4
NE - Trinity CT (NESCAC): .680/.547/3-4
S - Guilford (ODAC): .720/.550/2-4
W - Loras (ARC): .680/.539/1-3

[Smitty Oom]

I feel like LeTu would be my personal choice over WPI/Hobart/etc in the rounds 7-10. Not that it really matters, but curious to why you chose those teams over LeTu? Does vRRO matter that much? Or is it just splitting hairs with similarly good to great resumes?

Thanks.

[Titan Q]

I feel like LeTu would be my personal choice over WPI/Hobart/etc in the rounds 7-10. Not that it really matters, but curious to why you chose those teams over LeTu? Does vRRO matter that much? Or is it just splitting hairs with similarly good to great resumes?

Thanks.

After looking at it again, I agree, I had LeTourneau several spots too low.  I have moved them up.  Good catch.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I feel like, from this list, those first six are the only absolute locks right now.  Obviously we'll have a few upset teams to add into that on Sunday, but we could be debating quite a bit for mock selections.

[Titan Q]

I feel like, from this list, those first six are the only absolute locks right now.  Obviously we'll have a few upset teams to add into that on Sunday, but we could be debating quite a bit for mock selections.

Agree!

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

You also may want to look at your Augie/Eau Claire comparison.  I think, right now, Eau Claire gets on the table first.  The primary criteria is very much a wash and when it comes to secondary, UWEC has a very solid NCSOS.  This Eau Claire - Platteville game may be the decider.  A win there, Eau Claire is clearly ahead for me; a loss and I'd give it to Augie.

[Titan Q]

You also may want to look at your Augie/Eau Claire comparison.  I think, right now, Eau Claire gets on the table first.  The primary criteria is very much a wash and when it comes to secondary, UWEC has a very solid NCSOS.  This Eau Claire - Platteville game may be the decider.  A win there, Eau Claire is clearly ahead for me; a loss and I'd give it to Augie.

It is super close.

I went with Augie based on the .720 WP vs .680 for EC.  But who knows.

I am convinced that the Central has to rank 2 more than the 8 official regionally ranked teams (like a side pot of regionally ranked teams).  They will have to order Augustana or Illinois Wesleyan (whoever wins Friday) and UW-Eau Claire.  Both are in play.

[KnightSlappy]

To go along with what you all are saying, I think the top three Pool C resumes among unranked teams are in the Central.

UW-Eau Claire
Augustana
Illinois Wesleyan

Next is probably Brandeis

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

To go along with what you all are saying, I think the top three Pool C resumes among unranked teams are in the Central.

UW-Eau Claire
Augustana
Illinois Wesleyan

Next is probably Brandeis

And there's no way the NE gets beyond their rankings anyway.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

You also may want to look at your Augie/Eau Claire comparison.  I think, right now, Eau Claire gets on the table first.  The primary criteria is very much a wash and when it comes to secondary, UWEC has a very solid NCSOS.  This Eau Claire - Platteville game may be the decider.  A win there, Eau Claire is clearly ahead for me; a loss and I'd give it to Augie.

It is super close.

I went with Augie based on the .720 WP vs .680 for EC.  But who knows.

I am convinced that the Central has to rank 2 more than the 8 official regionally ranked teams (like a side pot of regionally ranked teams).  They will have to order Augustana or Illinois Wesleyan (whoever wins Friday) and UW-Eau Claire.  Both are in play.

So everyone knows, I am under the impression the RACs (and national committee) rank at least double of what we see public at least at the end ... but they may be doing it all along to be in the practice.

[Titan Q]

As I see it, here are the top "bubble burster" candidates (Pool A teams that would steal Pool C with a conference tourney loss)...


Tier 1 Bubble Burster Teams (a conference tourney loss means a Pool C bid disappears)
* UW-Platteville (C/WIAC) - UW-Oshkosh and UW-La Crosse are bubble teams currently.

* Nebraska Wesleyan (W/ARC) - Loras and Buena Vista are bubble teams currently.

* St. Norbert (C/MWC) - no other competitive Pool C candidates in the MWC.

* North Central (C/CCIW) - Pool C swap if Elmhurst wins the CCIW; otherwise a bubble burster.

* Brockport (E/SUNYAC) - other SUNYAC Pool C candidates are on the end of the bubble currently.

* Randolph Macon (S/ODAC) - Virginia Wesleyan is on the Pool C bubble; Guilford is not regionally ranked currently.

* Stevens (AT/MACF) - no other competitive Pool candidates in the MACF currently.

* Wittenberg (GL/NCAC) - Wooster is on the bubble; no other competitive Pool C candidates in the NCAC.


Tier 2 Bubble Burster (a conference tourney loss sends these teams to the bubble; not Pool C locks)
* St. Joseph CT (NE/GNAC) - no other competitive Pool C candidates in the GNAC.

* Albion (GL/MIAA) - no other competitive Pool C candidates in the MIAA.

* Benedictine (C/NACC) - no other competitive Pool C candidates in the NACC.

* Yeshiva (AT/Skyline) - no other competitive Pool C candidates in the Skyline currently.

* Center (S/SAA) - no other competitive Pool C candidates in the SAA.

* Whitworth (W/NWC) - no other competitive Pool C candidates in the NWC.

* Drew (MA/LAND) - no other competitive Pool C candidates in the LAND.

* Widener (MA/MACC) - no other competitive Pool C candidates in the MACC.


Not Considered Bubble Bursters At This Point (these are potential Pool A/C swaps)
*St. Thomas (W/MIAC) - Pool C swap if St. John's win the MIAC; bubble burster if anyone else.

* Mount Union (GL/OAC) - Pool C swap if Marietta wins the OAC; bubble burster if anyone else.

* Swarthmore (MA/CC) - Pool C swap if Johns Hopkins wins the CC; bubble burster if anyone else.

* Tufts (NE/NESCAC) - Middlebury assumed Pool C lock; Pool C swap if Colby wins; potential swap if Amerst wins; bubble burster if Trinity.

* Christopher Newport (MA/CAC) - Pool C swap if York wins the CAC; bubble burster if anyone else.

* Springfield (NE/NEWMAC) - Pool C swap if Babson or WPI win the NEWMAC; bubble burster if anyone else.

* Texas-Dallas (S/ASC) - Pool C swap if LeTourneau wins the ASC; bubble burster if anyone else.

* RPI (E/LL) - Pool C swap if Hobart wins the LL; bubble burster if anyone else.

Scranton 93
Drew 91

Lycoming 90
Widener 77


Drew and Widener join the bubble.

[Greek Tragedy]

Drew and Widener were #5 and #6 in the MA

Drew going into the week .800 WP/1-1 vRRO/.523 SOS

Widener .792/2-1/.522

They will be behind the CNU/York loser and the Swarthmore/ JHU loser.  York has similar, but better numbers and you have them coming to the table at round #2 and not being taken until #15.

[D3RetiredHooper]

York also has a game @ CNU in CAC championship (Currently 3rd in MA and 21-5) which will bolster their SOS and add a Regionally Ranked game. Widener and Drew both played themselves off the bubble last night but doubtful they were realistically on the Pool C radar going into the week. 

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

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[Greek Tragedy]

Platteville moves to pool c, losing at home to EC.