Pool C

Started by Pat Coleman, January 20, 2006, 02:35:54 PM

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To counter that -- this resume is one win against the East No. 1 (negated by two losses to the East No. 1) and wins and losses against the East 7 and 8, all of them conference games. I'm not sure the committee was as impressed by that.
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Our mock had Yeshiva hosting largely because geography limited options out west and we didn't think the committee would give the nescac three pods.  There are a lot of options with that spot (including RPI, probably).  When Yeshiva was in the tournament two years ago, they did adjust the schedule so they could play early Friday afternoon.  If they win, the second game will be late Saturday night (after sundown).

However, the committee is hoping to stagger start times the first weekend if they can anyway - so we may seen games from 1pm on through the rest of the day.  But certainly Yeshiva will be playing early on Friday, no matter where they end up.

My two points were Yeshiva's resume was probably bubble out if they lost in the Skyline tournament so to go from being out to hosting is a bit of a stretch.  Their resume is not better than Wooster's (2-GL), RPI's (2-E), or York's (3-MA) who all are solid viable hosting options and can get to a lot of the other host sites.  In addition to that, on the official box score from the Purchase game, which was standing room only packed, it said official attendance 950.  Is that enough for the NCAA to allow Yeshiva to host?  I am not sure what the capacity requirement is for a host pod.

Also, it's my understanding Yeshiva practices orthodox Judiasm.  I am no religious expert but from sun down Friday to sun down Saturday you are not allowed to pretty much do anything, correct?  How would that work for practice time for the opposing winning team? I assume everyone that works/attends Yeshiva is Jewish orthodox and would not be available to unlock the gym, clean up from the prior game, do laundry etc... that a host site typically would handle.

I understand it's a mock bracket but that is what I meant when saying the NCAA probably does not want to open up that can of worms when there are plenty of other viable options.

Typically, if the committee can't go with the criteria-justified hosts, they will stick to regional rankings.  RPI definitely would fit that bill, as would Wooster (although Wooster created more geographical problems than it solved in the end).  At some point, though, with all the work we're doing on this, we just have to call it.

Two years ago, the committee had trouble finding a host who could accommodate Yeshiva's needs for the weekend.  If that becomes an issue again, there's plenty of justification to just have them stay home.  I don't think Yeshiva will host, but it would not be an unprecedented or unjustified decision if they do.

Just to clear this up ... I don't know how much the committee had 'trouble.' They had one school in mind but there was a challenge due to some reason (wasn't given to me; not important), so the committee went to their second choice - YCP - and they were happy to make it happen. I don't want it be thought upon that there was a challenge other than seeing if it work which they do for Hope, Calvin, etc. who have Christian religious scheduling challenges (though most have removed those from NCAA tournament play, but not all).
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My conversation with Mike Schauer, MBB National Committee Chair, about the selection process...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMpILST1VyQ

0:00 Feeling good about 2021-22
3:40 Regional realignment (8 regions to 10)
6:15 Primary selection criteria
10:55 Average historical data for Pool C selections
13:26 Handling of non-D3 games
14:07 Balance of the primary criteria; secondary criteria
16:03 The importance of playing a strong non-conf schedule
20:00 Allocation of teams in 2021-22 tournament field
21:27 Regional rankings; alphabetical 1st ranking trial
35:00 Transparency in the process
39:08 D3 bracketing
45:30 COVID impacts on the 2021-22 tournament
46:45 Improvements in the D3 selection process over the years

CNU85

Good stuff Titan Q -- I'm in the middle of watching it now. The new C2C was just mentioned and there was some uncertainty about a conference tournament. There will be a conference torunamnet held at CNU in Virginia.

Feb 24-26.

here is the CNU schedule - scroll down to see dates of the tournament. Hope this helps.

https://www.cnusports.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule

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Quote from: CNU85 on November 08, 2021, 12:41:13 PM
Good stuff Titan Q -- I'm in the middle of watching it now. The new C2C was just mentioned and there was some uncertainty about a conference tournament. There will be a conference torunamnet held at CNU in Virginia.

Feb 24-26.

here is the CNU schedule - scroll down to see dates of the tournament. Hope this helps.

https://www.cnusports.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule

Thank you!

Titan Q

Quote from: Titan Q on November 08, 2021, 11:45:11 AM
My conversation with Mike Schauer, MBB National Committee Chair, about the selection process...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMpILST1VyQ

0:00 Feeling good about 2021-22
3:40 Regional realignment (8 regions to 10)
6:15 Primary selection criteria
10:55 Average historical data for Pool C selections
13:26 Handling of non-D3 games
14:07 Balance of the primary criteria; secondary criteria
16:03 The importance of playing a strong non-conf schedule
20:00 Allocation of teams in 2021-22 tournament field
21:27 Regional rankings; alphabetical 1st ranking trial
35:00 Transparency in the process
39:08 D3 bracketing
45:30 COVID impacts on the 2021-22 tournament
46:45 Improvements in the D3 selection process over the years

Follow up tweet from Mike Schauer...


Michael Schauer
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One thing I would add after listening to this podcast with @IWUhoopscom that I explained poorly.  We are not limited to a specific number of flights.  We are charged with minimizing the number of flights. Historically this has been around 5. #d3hoops

PauldingLightUP

Thanks for the podcast TitanQ. One question following listening, I feel like it was assumed, but not 100% sure. With regional rankings now coming on out on Tuesday's will it still count Sunday's results?

I would think so and hope so.

Also, soccer and volleyball regional rankings were still released Wednesday's this fall. Is this just for men's basketball for Tuesday's releases, so women's basketball would still be Wednesday's? Thanks.

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Quote from: PauldingLightUP on November 08, 2021, 06:30:46 PM
Thanks for the podcast TitanQ. One question following listening, I feel like it was assumed, but not 100% sure. With regional rankings now coming on out on Tuesday's will it still count Sunday's results?

I would think so and hope so.

Also, soccer and volleyball regional rankings were still released Wednesday's this fall. Is this just for men's basketball for Tuesday's releases, so women's basketball would still be Wednesday's? Thanks.

I also assume the regional rankings will still count results through Sundays.  I believe the change is just on the release side of things (Tuesdays instead of Wednesdays).

I don't know if WBB is following suit on the Tuesday release.

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Quote from: Titan Q on November 08, 2021, 11:45:11 AM
My conversation with Mike Schauer, MBB National Committee Chair, about the selection process...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMpILST1VyQ

0:00 Feeling good about 2021-22
3:40 Regional realignment (8 regions to 10)
6:15 Primary selection criteria
10:55 Average historical data for Pool C selections
13:26 Handling of non-D3 games
14:07 Balance of the primary criteria; secondary criteria
16:03 The importance of playing a strong non-conf schedule
20:00 Allocation of teams in 2021-22 tournament field
21:27 Regional rankings; alphabetical 1st ranking trial
35:00 Transparency in the process
39:08 D3 bracketing
45:30 COVID impacts on the 2021-22 tournament
46:45 Improvements in the D3 selection process over the years

Is there a way to pin this post here on the Pool C page? It's a fantastic explainer and will be helpful to many folks come February.

Great work TitanQ (and coach Schauer)!

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Does anyone know if there's a Men's Basketball Championship Handbook out? The link I previously downloaded them from does not seem to work anymore.

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Quote from: KnightSlappy on December 01, 2021, 02:28:49 PM
Does anyone know if there's a Men's Basketball Championship Handbook out? The link I previously downloaded them from does not seem to work anymore.

You could always email Mike Shauer and see if he's got an advanced copy, but nothing has been publicly released yet.
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