Pool C

Greek Tragedy · February 18, 2006, 03:44:18 AM

Since there is that saying, "it's a country mile," maybe there is a saying, "it's only a country hour" so maybe Greg's 3 1/2 hours is actually only 2 hours...or 6!

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · February 20, 2006, 09:32:19 AM

OK, fine, I'll let NebWes slide.

Pat Coleman · February 20, 2006, 05:02:53 PM

QOWI through games of Sunday, Feb. 19:

1-10
Amherst    11.826    22-1
Lawrence    11.550    20-0
York (Pa.)    11.043    21-2
Worcester Polytech    11.000    19-3
Mississippi College    10.913    22-1
Trinity (Texas)    10.833    16-2
Tufts    10.826    19-4
Lincoln    10.813    12-4
St. John Fisher    10.810    20-1
Augustana    10.773    19-3


11-20
Cortland State    10.609    21-2
Virginia Wesleyan    10.538    23-3
Gordon    10.522    21-2
William Paterson    10.435    17-6
Carnegie Mellon    10.389    14-4
Wittenberg    10.350    17-3
Wooster    10.333    19-2
Lakeland    10.200    17-3
Widener    10.174    19-4
Transylvania    10.167    20-4

21-30
Calvin    10.167    11-1
Keene State    10.136    16-6
Randolph-Macon    10.125    19-5
Washington U.    10.111    13-5
Carroll    10.095    18-3
Occidental    10.071    11-3
Illinois Wesleyan    10.053    14-5
Bates    10.048    16-5
Baruch    10.045    20-2
Alvernia    10.045    19-3

31-40
UW-Stout    10.000    16-4
Baldwin-Wallace    10.000    19-4
Trinity (Conn.)    10.000    15-4
Carleton    9.952    17-4
UW-Whitewater    9.950    15-5
New Jersey    9.905    14-7
North Central    9.895    14-5
Hope    9.875    14-2
UW-La Crosse    9.870    17-6
Ursinus    9.826    18-5



41-50
St. Thomas    9.783    18-5
Richard Stockton    9.783    15-8
Fisk    9.769    9-4
New Jersey City    9.739    16-7
Nebraska Wesleyan    9.714    6-1
Puget Sound    9.706    15-2
New York University    9.696    17-6
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.667    16-5
Utica    9.652    18-5
Lake Erie    9.650    16-4


51-60
MIT    9.636    15-7
Rhode Island College    9.625    16-8
Albright    9.619    14-7
Salem State    9.583    18-6
Catholic    9.571    16-5
Wartburg    9.524    17-4
Messiah    9.500    15-7
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.500    14-6
Plymouth State    9.480    16-9
Westfield State    9.478    16-7

61-70
Williams    9.478    15-8
Wheaton (Mass.)    9.455    14-8
Whitworth    9.455    17-5
Rochester    9.450    13-7
Hanover    9.400    13-7
Emmanuel    9.391    18-5
Howard Payne    9.391    17-6
Mary Hardin-Baylor    9.391    17-6
Bethany    9.364    18-4
Albion    9.357    11-3


71-80
Johns Hopkins    9.286    15-6
UW-Oshkosh    9.286    13-8
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    9.278    13-5
Scranton    9.217    17-6
Willamette    9.211    16-3
Ohio Northern    9.200    15-5
Franklin    9.182    16-6
Elizabethtown    9.182    13-9
UW-Stevens Point    9.182    14-8
Brockport State    9.150    12-8


81-90
Hamilton    9.150    16-4
Bowdoin    9.143    13-8
Elmhurst    9.143    14-7
Elms    9.143    17-4
Mount St. Mary    9.136    17-5
McMurry    9.136    16-6
Centre    9.100    13-7
Mass-Boston    9.091    13-9
Endicott    9.091    14-8
Rutgers-Newark    9.083    16-8

91-100
Averett    9.053    14-5
Ohio Wesleyan    9.045    16-6
Oswego State    9.043    17-6
Wilmington    9.040    19-6
Coe    9.000    14-6
Colby-Sawyer    8.955    14-8
Chicago    8.947    11-8
Pomona-Pitzer    8.933    11-4
Manhattanville    8.913    15-8
Gettysburg    8.913    15-8

101-110
Villa Julie    8.895    15-4
Coast Guard    8.864    15-7
Norwich    8.864    17-5
St. John's    8.857    15-6
Milwaukee Engineering    8.857    14-7
Ramapo    8.857    12-9
La Verne    8.857    8-6
Penn State-Behrend    8.850    15-5
Southwestern    8.850    14-6
King's    8.783    15-8


111-120
Gustavus Adolphus    8.773    15-7
Pitt-Greensburg    8.762    14-7
Kean    8.760    13-12
Montclair State    8.727    11-11
Mass-Dartmouth    8.714    11-10
Baptist Bible    8.706    13-4
Brandeis    8.696    13-10
Loras    8.682    14-8
Clarke    8.650    13-7
Christopher Newport    8.615    9-4

fisheralum03 · February 20, 2006, 05:05:31 PM

Pat, thanks, one question. If you were to predict the East region (and that includes teams from the North East as well) for next week, how do you think it would go??

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · February 20, 2006, 05:15:30 PM

Before I take off for the day, here are the top 18 non-conference leading schools on the QOWI list:

1-10
Amherst 11.826 22-1
Lawrence 11.550 20-0
York (Pa.) 11.043 21-2
Worcester Polytech 11.000 19-3
Mississippi College 10.913 22-1
Trinity (Texas) 10.833 16-2
Tufts 10.826 19-4
Lincoln 10.813 12-4
St. John Fisher 10.810 20-1
Augustana 10.773 19-3

11-20
Cortland State 10.609 21-2
Virginia Wesleyan 10.538 23-3
Gordon 10.522 21-2
William Paterson 10.435 17-6
Carnegie Mellon 10.389 14-4
Wittenberg 10.350 17-3
~~Wooster 10.333 19-2~~
Lakeland 10.200 17-3
Widener 10.174 19-4
Transylvania 10.167 20-4

21-30
Calvin 10.167 11-1
Keene State 10.136 16-6
Randolph-Macon 10.125 19-5
Washington U. 10.111 13-5
Carroll 10.095 18-3
Occidental 10.071 11-3
Illinois Wesleyan 10.053 14-5
Bates 10.048 16-5
Baruch 10.045 20-2
Alvernia 10.045 19-3

31-40
UW-Stout 10.000 16-4
Baldwin-Wallace 10.000 19-4
Trinity (Conn.) 10.000 15-4
~~Carleton 9.952 17-4~~
UW-Whitewater 9.950 15-5
New Jersey 9.905 14-7
North Central 9.895 14-5
Hope 9.875 14-2
UW-La Crosse 9.870 17-6
~~Ursinus 9.826 18-5~~

41-50
St. Thomas 9.783 18-5
Richard Stockton 9.783 15-8
~~Fisk 9.769 9-4~~
New Jersey City 9.739 16-7
Nebraska Wesleyan 9.714 6-1
Puget Sound 9.706 15-2
New York University 9.696 17-6

FYI: Next highest is MIT

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · February 20, 2006, 05:17:33 PM

The NESCAC drops to two C bids and the NJAC moves up to three. Very interesting developments here.

Mr. Ypsi · February 20, 2006, 05:21:43 PM

Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 20, 2006, 05:17:33 PM

The NESCAC drops to two C bids and the NJAC moves up to three. Very interesting developments here.

Only if QOWI turns out to be (de facto) the ONLY criterion - check the number of in-region losses for the NJAC teams!

sac · February 20, 2006, 06:02:56 PM

Funny, Albion with only 3 currently and a max of 4 sits on the outside looking in.

Greek Tragedy · February 20, 2006, 07:37:48 PM

This is last week's NCAA Regional Rankings. So, records have not been updated through this past week's games (records shown are through Sunday, Feb. 12, I believe). I've added the results of the most recent games. Pool C candidates in BOLD. I believe this week's Regional Poll will NOT be released, right?

Atlantic
1 Bernard Baruch 19-2 21-4 (CUNYAC): Beat Medgar Evers
2 Farmingdale 15-4 18-4 (SKY): LOST at St. Joseph's (L.I.); won at NYC-Tech
3 The College of New Jersey 15-5 17-6 (NJAC): LOST at Montclair State; LOST at New Jersey City
4 William Paterson 15-6 16-7 (NJAC): Beat Ramapo; Won at Rutgers-Camden
5 Mount St. Mary (New York) 16-5 19-5 (SKY): Beat SUNY-Old Westbury; Won at King's Point

East
1 Cortland State 19-1 20-2 (SUNYAC): Won at New Paltz State; LOST to Geneseo State; Won at Fredonia State
2 St. John Fisher 17-1 19-3 (Empire 8 ): Won at Nazareth; Won at Rochester Tech
3 New York University 17-4 18-4 (UAA): LOST to Chicago; LOST to Washington U
4 Hamilton 15-3 19-3 (Liberty): LOST at St. Lawrence; Won at Clarkson
5 Rochester 13-5 16-6 (UAA): LOST at Case Western Reserve; LOST at Emory

Great Lakes
1 Wooster 18-1 22-1 (NCAC): Beat Kenyon; LOST at Ohio Wesleyan
2 Baldwin-Wallace 19-2 21-2 (OAC): LOST to Ohio Northern; LOST at Capital
3 Wittenberg 16-2 21-2 (NCAC): LOST at Wabash; Beat Allegheny
4 Carnegie Mellon 14-3 18-4 (UAA): LOST at Emory; Won at Case Western Reserve
5 Calvin 9-1 18-5 (MIAA): Beat Albion; Beat Kalamazoo
5 Hope 14-2 21-2 (MIAA): Beat Alma; Beat Tri-State

Mid-Atlantic
1 York (Pennsylvania) 18-2 20-2 (CAC): Beat Gallaudet; Won at Mary Washington
2 Widener 18-3 19-3 (MACC): Won at Moravian; LOST to Messiah
3 Lincoln (Pennsylvania) 12-4 20-4 (IND): Pool B
4 Alvernia 18-3 20-4 (PnAC): Beat Marywood
5 Ursinus 17-4 18-5 (Centennial): Beat Haverford; LOST to Muhlenberg
6 Johns Hopkins 16-4 17-5 (Centennial): LOST to Gettsyburg; LOST at Franklin and Marshall
7 Catholic 14-5 16-6 (CAC): Won at Salisbury; Beat Gallaudet
8 Messiah 14-6 15-8 (MACC): LOST at Elizabethtown; Won at Widener

Midwest
1 Lawrence 18-0 20-0 (MWC): Won at Carroll; Beat St. Norbert
2 Augustana (Illinois) 18-2 20-3 (CCIW): Beat Ill. Wes; LOST at North Central
3 Carroll (Wisconsin) 17-2 19-2 (MWC): LOST to Lawrence; Won at Beloit
4 Transylvania 19-4 19-4 (HCAC): Beat Franklin; Beat Defiance
5 Illinois Wesleyan 13-4 18-4 (CCIW): LOST at Augustana; Beat North Park
6 Lakeland 16-3 20-5 (LMC): Beat Maranatha Baptist
7 Washington U. in St. Louis 12-5 15-7 (UAA): Won at Brandeis; Won at NYU
8 Elmhurst 15-6 16-7 (CCIW): LOST to North Central; Won at Wheaton

Northeast
1 Amherst 22-1 23-2 (NESCAC): Beta Connecticut College
2 Worcester Polytechnic 18-3 19-3 (NEWMAC): Beat Springfield
3 Tufts 18-4 19-5 (NESCAC): Beat Williams
4 Gordon 18-2 19-3
5 Trinity (Connecticut) 14-4 17-5 (NESCAC): Beat Colby
6 Bates 14-5 18-5 (NESCAC): Beat Bowdoin
7 Williams 16-7 17-7 (NESCAC): LOST at Tufts
8 Keene State 13-6 16-6 (Little East): Won at Plymouth State; Won at Southern Maine
9 Rhode Island College 15-7 15-7 (Little East): LOST at Mass-Dartmouth; Beat Mass-Boston
10 Westfield St 14-7 16-7 (MASCAC): Beat Framingham State; Won at Massachusetts College

South
1 Mississippi College 19-1 21-1 (ASC-E): Beat Louisiana College; Won at Texas-Dallas; Won at Texas-Tyler
2 Trinity (Texas) 14-2 18-5 (SCAC): Beat Sewanee; Beat Centre
3 Virginia Wesleyan 20-3 21-3 (ODAC): Beat Eastern Mennonite; Beat Eastern Mennonite (this is not a typo!); Beat Guilford
4 Randolph-Macon 16-5 19-5 (ODAC): Beat Bridgewater; Beat Bridgewater (this is not a typo!); Beat Hampden-Sydney
5 Howard Payne 15-5 16-5 (ASC-W): LOST At Sul Ross State; Beat Texas Lutheran; Beat Schreiner
6 Christopher Newport 9-2 18-5 (USAC): LOST at Greensboro; LOST at Methodist
7 Fisk 9-4 14-10 (GSAC): Pool B
7 Maryville (Tennessee.) 14-6 18-6 (GSAC): Pool B Beat Tennessee Wesleyan

West
1 Occidental 11-1 18-2 (SCIAC): LOST to Redlands; LOST at Clare-Mount-Scripps
2 Wisconsin-Stout 15-4 18-5 (WIAC): Won at La Crosse
3 Puget Sound 13-2 18-4 (NWC): Beat Willamette; Beat Linfield
4 Wartburg 16-3 18-4 (IIAC): LOST at Buena Vista; beat Cornell
5 Wisconsin-La Crosse 16-5 18-5 (WIAC): Won at River Falls; LOST to Stout
6 St. Thomas (Minn.) 17-5 19-5 (MIAC): Beat Concordia-Moorhead
7 Wisconsin-Whitewater 13-5 17-5 (WIAC): Won at Oshkosh; Won at Eau Claire
8 Carleton 15-4 18-5 (MIAC): Beat St. Mary's; Won at Bethel

Quote from: sac on February 20, 2006, 06:02:56 PM
Funny, Albion with only 3 currently and a max of 4 sits on the outside looking in.

This site has Albion 10-4 in conference, but 11-3 in-region...something is wrong.

Mr. Ypsi · February 20, 2006, 07:44:38 PM

OS,

My understanding is that THIS week we get a regional ranking, but NEXT will be classified top-secret by Dick Cheney.

Knightstalker · February 20, 2006, 07:48:28 PM

OS NJCU defeated TCNJ at TCNJ.
YPSI the majority of NJAC regional losses are conference losses and you can add at least one more loss to the NJAC teams because of the NJAC tournament coming up.

Mr. Ypsi · February 20, 2006, 07:53:04 PM

Quote from: knightstalker on February 20, 2006, 07:48:28 PM
OS NJCU defeated TCNJ at TCNJ.
YPSI the majority of NJAC regional losses are conference losses and you can add at least one more loss to the NJAC teams because of the NJAC tournament coming up.

I assumed everyone understood that 1 more loss should be added or else they would be the AQ - but, yeah, never assume!

Where's your PP ballot?!

augie_superfan · February 20, 2006, 08:27:46 PM

Those Albion records should be correct....remember, Albion played Tri-State twice and those are conference games but not counted as regional games because I think they are a provisional D3 member.

titanfan · February 20, 2006, 08:42:38 PM

Virginia Wesleyan just beat Randolph-Macon in the ODAC final 81-78 in Overtime.

R-M officially becomes a pool C candidate.

formerbant10 · February 20, 2006, 09:04:16 PM

Hoops Fan,

I think that the NESCAC still has 3 Pool C chances seeing as though their 4 semi-finalists are all regionally ranked in the top 6 and are in decent standing in the QOWI.

If you think there are two, who of Bates, Tufts and Trinity dropped out?