Pool C

[Pat Coleman]

There's no requirement they have to take one from each region, no.

[Matt Letourneau]

Would you consider it likely though, or have entire regions been shut out of Pool C in the past?

[Ralph Turner]

Yes, there were only 7 Pool C bids in 2005.  There are 8 regions.

[Matt Letourneau]

Well, hell, I should stop asking obvious questions then.  I wasn't paying attention last year cause Catholic had no prayer, and the year before that they won the tourney so it didn't matter, and before that I used to pay attention but that's too long to remember!

[Pat Coleman]

Check out the FAQ to catch up.

[diehardfan]

Yes, there were only 7 Pool C bids in 2005.  There are 8 regions.

and the Northeast tended to get a few.  Though the year Amherst and Williams were in the final four they definitely desered it!

[Gregory Sager]

As for NESCAC and Pool C, man, you guys are assuming a lot in terms of the NESCAC presidents' motivation here. Don't forget, folks, the NESCAC has had this schedule since LOOOOOONG before QOWI and the uber-emphasis on regionality came into play.

I can't help it. All of that free-floating paranoia in the MWC room regarding Lawrence and the #1 ranking was apparently contagious.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

[Greek Tragedy]

and the Northeast tended to get a few.  Though the year Amherst and Williams were in the final four they definitely desered it!

I thought Williams was alright until we spanked them in the championship game! lol.  I'M KIDDING!    That game was amazing and the semi that featured Williams and Amherst was pretty awesome as well.  Tucker Kain was giving me alcers!  Both definitely deserved to be there, though I wish the NCAA would make more exceptions like they did for those two teams by purposely putting them in different brackets.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Albright (#8 in the Mid-Atlantic) lost to Messiah (unranked) last night.  Since Albright was also not among the top 50 in QOWI, I think this probably drops them from contention.  With Widener barely able to get by Elizabethtown, the question becomes: Does Widener get in if they lose to Messiah for the AQ?

[Ralph Turner]

Albright (#8 in the Mid-Atlantic) lost to Messiah (unranked) last night.  Since Albright was also not among the top 50 in QOWI, I think this probably drops them from contention.  With Widener barely able to get by Elizabethtown, the question becomes: Does Widener get in if they lose to Messiah for the AQ?

I think that we need to look at the number of Tourney Upsets, come Sunday afternoon.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Well yes, of course, but we're trying to speculate wildly here, Ralph; stop ruining the fun.

[Knightstalker]

As for NESCAC and Pool C, man, you guys are assuming a lot in terms of the NESCAC presidents' motivation here. Don't forget, folks, the NESCAC has had this schedule since LOOOOOONG before QOWI and the uber-emphasis on regionality came into play.

I can't help it. All of that free-floating paranoia in the MWC room regarding Lawrence and the #1 ranking was apparently contagious.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

It's ok Greg, I see those NESCAC presidents sneaking around on my grassy knoll all the time.  They are up to something.

[devossed]

Well yes, of course, but we're trying to speculate wildly here, Ralph; stop ruining the fun.

Well, consider the source...

[Knightstalker]

I took Ralphs two lists and compared the teams that were not on both.  On some I think Ralph just missed crossing them out on both lists.  Some appeared in the regional rankings but not in the top 50 QOWI.
On the Regional not on QOWI

4 Wittenberg 17-3 22-3  NCAC
6 Catholic 16-5 18-6  CAC
8 Albright 14-7 16-8  MACC
8 Rhode Island College 16-8 16-8  LEC
10 Williams 16-8 17-8
7 Howard Payne 17-6 18-6  ASC-West
8 Mary Hardin-Baylor 17-6 17-8  ASC-West
8 St. Thomas 18-5 20-5  MIAC

On QOWI not on Regional
Wooster    10.333    19-2  NCAC
UW-Stout    10.000    16-4 WIAC
Baldwin-Wallace    10.000    19-4  OAC
New Jersey    9.905    14-7  NJAC
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.667    16-5  SUNYAC

[Knightstalker]

Next I took the teams that appeared on both lists.  These are the regionally ranked teams that appear in the top 50 QOWI who are not leading their conference.  Each team is listed twice, the first line is the regional rank and the second line is the QOWI rank.  These are the schools I would assume are the front runners for the Pool C bids at this time, this will change after all the conference tournaments end.

There are 16 teams here

3 New Jersey City 16-7 17-8  NJAC
44 New Jersey City    9.739    16-7  NJAC

5 Richard Stockton 15-7 17-8  NJAC
42 Richard Stockton    9.783    15-8  NJAC

3 New York University 17-6 18-6  UAA
47 New York University    9.696    17-6  UAA

4 Utica 18-5 19-5  E8
49 Utica    9.652    18-5  E8

3 Hope 15-2 23-2  MIAA
38 Hope    9.875    14-2  MIAA

4 Carroll 18-3 20-3  MWC
25 Carroll    10.095    18-3  MWC

5 Illinois Wesleyan 14-5 19-5  CCIW
27 Illinois Wesleyan    10.053    14-5 CCIW

6 North Central 14-5 20-5  CCIW
37 North Central    9.895    14-5  CCIW

7 Washington U. 14-5 17-7  UAA
24 Washington U.    10.111    13-5  UAA

3 Tufts 19-4 19-5  NESCAC
7 Tufts    10.826    19-4  NESCAC

5 Trinity (Conn.) 15-4 18-5  NESCAC
33 Trinity (Conn.)    10.000    15-4  NESCAC

6 Bates 15-5 19-5  NESCAC
28 Bates    10.048    16-5  NESCAC

4 Randolph-Macon 19-5 22-5   ODAC
23 Randolph-Macon    10.125    19-5  ODAC

4 Occidental 11-3 18-4  SCIAC
26 Occidental    10.071    11-3  SCIAC CMS has the Pool A.

5 UW-Whitewater 15-5 19-5  WIAC
35 UW-Whitewater    9.950    15-5  WIAC

6 UW-La Crosse 17-6 19-6  WIAC
39 UW-La Crosse    9.870    17-6  WIAC18-5  CC

I don't expect all of these teams to make it, I think NJCU has a snowballs chance in hell, but at least they still have that slim chance, more likely they will be one of three or four NJAC teams in the eight team ECAC metro tournament.