Pool C

[smedindy]

With all the carnage going on, I don't think Utica is in.

[fisheralum03]

If Utica beats Fisher tonight, that would really hurt a lot teams in contention for a pool c bid b/c the E8 would have 2 teams in instead of just 1

[Dark Knight]

We're accumulating C's as quickly as I did in my second year of college!

  Nice try DC, and worth applause, but somehow I doubt it...

[smedindy]

Right, if Utica beats Fisher, that's different.

[Pat Coleman]

Updated QOWI through games of Friday, Feb. 24:

Does not include unreported scores of Chapman, UC Santa Cruz, Nebraska Wesleyan and Colorado College.

1-10
Amherst     12.000     22-1
Lawrence    11.571    21-0
Worcester Polytech    11.091    19-3
Tufts    11.000    19-4
St. John Fisher    10.864    21-1
Mississippi College    10.833    23-1
Lincoln    10.813    12-4
Gordon    10.560    22-3
Trinity (Texas)    10.526    16-3
Virginia Wesleyan    10.481    24-3
               
11-20
Augustana    10.478    19-4
Wittenberg    10.455    19-3
Cortland State    10.440    22-3
York (Pa.)    10.400    22-3
Carnegie Mellon    10.389    14-4
William Paterson    10.250    18-6
Bates    10.238    16-5
Transylvania    10.231    22-4
Carroll    10.227    19-3
Wooster    10.217    21-2
               
21-30
Washington U.    10.211    14-5
UW-Whitewater    10.136    17-5
Carleton    10.136    18-4
Illinois Wesleyan    10.100    15-5
Widener    10.083    20-4
Keene State    10.042    18-6
UW-Stout    10.000    18-4
Calvin    10.000    13-1
Baruch    9.958    21-3
Alvernia    9.958    21-3
               
31-40
Hope    9.944    16-2
Baldwin-Wallace    9.920    21-4
Lakeland    9.905    17-4
Trinity (Conn.)    9.895    15-4
UW-La Crosse    9.880    18-7
Utica    9.880    20-5
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.870    18-5
North Central    9.850    15-5
Randolph-Macon    9.840    19-6
Ursinus    9.826    18-5
               
41-50
St. Thomas    9.792    19-5
Occidental    9.750    12-4
Nebraska Wesleyan    9.714    6-1
Puget Sound    9.706    15-2
New York University    9.696    17-6
Whitworth    9.652    18-5
Williams    9.625    16-8
Lake Erie    9.571    17-4
MIT    9.565    16-7
Hamilton    9.476    17-4
               
51-60
Colby-Sawyer    9.458    16-8
Mary Hardin-Baylor    9.458    18-6
New Jersey    9.455    14-8
Rochester    9.450    13-7
Catholic    9.435    18-5
Bowdoin    9.429    13-8
Albright    9.409    14-8
Fisk    9.400    10-5
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps    9.400    15-5
Wheaton (Mass.)    9.391    15-8
               
61-70
Maryville (Tenn.)    9.381    15-6
Pomona-Pitzer    9.353    13-4
Messiah    9.348    16-7
Endicott    9.333    16-8
Mount St. Mary    9.333    18-6
Howard Payne    9.333    18-6
Manhattanville    9.320    17-8
Salem State    9.320    18-7
Rhode Island College    9.308    17-9
Bethany    9.304    19-4
               
71-80
UW-Stevens Point    9.292    15-9
Johns Hopkins    9.286    15-6
Wartburg    9.273    17-5
Scranton    9.250    18-6
Ohio Northern    9.227    17-5
McMurry    9.217    17-6
Franklin    9.208    18-6
Richard Stockton    9.208    15-9
Emmanuel    9.200    19-6
Willamette    9.200    16-4
               
81-90
Elms    9.174    19-4
Westfield State    9.167    16-8
New Jersey City    9.167    16-8
Coe    9.143    15-6
Villa Julie    9.143    17-4
UW-Oshkosh    9.136    13-9
Albion    9.125    12-4
Centre    9.095    14-7
Southwestern    9.048    15-6
Elmhurst    9.045    14-8
               
91-100
Norwich    9.042    19-5
Averett    9.000    16-5
Rutgers-Newark    9.000    17-9
Plymouth State    8.962    16-10
Ramapo    8.957    14-9
Hanover    8.952    13-8
Chicago    8.947    11-8
Oswego State    8.920    18-7
Ohio Wesleyan    8.917    17-7
Elizabethtown    8.913    13-10

101-110
Gettysburg     8.913     15-8
Brockport State    8.905    12-9
Aurora    8.900    13-7
Plattsburgh State    8.875    15-9
Mass-Boston    8.875    15-9
SUNYIT    8.870    13-10
Pitt-Greensburg    8.864    15-7
Milwaukee Engineering    8.857    14-7
Wilmington    8.852    20-7
Gustavus Adolphus    8.833    16-8
               
111-120
Coast Guard    8.826    16-7
Union    8.810    14-7
Bridgewater State    8.783    14-9
Christopher Newport    8.714    10-4
Clarke    8.714    14-7
Baptist Bible    8.706    13-4
Brandeis    8.696    13-10
Springfield    8.667    10-14
Wilkes    8.600    13-7
Huntingdon    8.588    11-6
               
121-130
King's    8.583    15-9
Edgewood    8.565    13-10
St. John's    8.545    15-7
Penn State-Behrend    8.524    15-6
Loras    8.478    14-9
Kean    8.440    13-12
Salve Regina    8.435    15-8
Wesley    8.435    16-7
Chapman    8.417    8-4
Potsdam State    8.409    13-9

[Titan Q]

Pool A winners and highest seeds remaining in conference tournaments crossed off...

(Pool B's also crossed.)

1-10
Amherst     12.000     22-1
Lawrence    11.571    21-0
Worcester Polytech    11.091    19-3
Tufts    11.000    19-4
St. John Fisher    10.864    21-1
Mississippi College    10.833    23-1
Lincoln    10.813    12-4
Gordon    10.560    22-3
Trinity (Texas)    10.526    16-3
Virginia Wesleyan    10.481    24-3
               
11-20
Augustana    10.478    19-4
Wittenberg    10.455    19-3
Cortland State    10.440    22-3
York (Pa.)    10.400    22-3
Carnegie Mellon    10.389    14-4
William Paterson    10.250    18-6
Bates    10.238    16-5
Transylvania    10.231    22-4
Carroll    10.227    19-3
Wooster    10.217    21-2
               
21-30
Washington U.    10.211    14-5
UW-Whitewater    10.136    17-5
Carleton    10.136    18-4
Illinois Wesleyan    10.100    15-5
Widener    10.083    20-4 
Keene State    10.042    18-6
UW-Stout    10.000    18-4
Calvin    10.000    13-1
Baruch    9.958    21-3
Alvernia    9.958    21-3
               
31-40
Hope    9.944    16-2
Baldwin-Wallace    9.920    21-4
Lakeland    9.905    17-4
Trinity (Conn.)    9.895    15-4
UW-La Crosse    9.880    18-7
Utica    9.880    20-5
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.870    18-5
North Central    9.850    15-5
Randolph-Macon    9.840    19-6
Ursinus    9.826    18-5
               
41-50
St. Thomas    9.792    19-5
Occidental    9.750    12-4
Nebraska Wesleyan    9.714    6-1
Puget Sound    9.706    15-2
New York University    9.696    17-6
Whitworth    9.652    18-5
Williams    9.625    16-8
Lake Erie    9.571    17-4
MIT    9.565    16-7
Hamilton    9.476    17-4

[Ralph Turner]

Here are the Top Pool C candidates by the Regional Rankings:

Atlantic
1 Baruch 20-2 22-4   CUNYAC  Lost to York NY in Finals
2 William Paterson 17-6 18-7  NJAC  Pool A
3 New Jersey City 16-8 17-9  NJAC Lost to Ramapo in QtrF
4 SUNY-Farmingdale 16-5 19-5  Skyline  Pool A
5 Richard Stockton 15-7 17-8  NJAC Lost to Ramapo in Semis
NR York NY 15-9 15-13 CUNYAC Pool A    

East
1 St. John Fisher 20-1 22-3  E8  Pool A
2 Cortland State 21-3 22-4  SUNYAC  [b]Loss to SUNYIT in Semis[/b]
3 New York University 17-7 18-7  UAA
4 Utica 18-5 19-5  E8  Lost in Finals
5 Hamilton 16-4 20-4  LL Pool A

Great Lakes
1 Wooster 19-2 23-2 NCAC Lost in Finals
2 Calvin 11-1 20-5  MIAA  Lost in Finals
3 Hope 15-2 23-2  MIAA Pool A
4 Wittenberg 17-3 22-3  NCAC  Pool A
5 Baldwin-Wallace 19-4 21-4  OAC  Pool A
6 Carnegie Mellon 15-4 19-5  UAA Pool A
UR Bethany 20-4 23-4 Pres AC Pool B

Mid-Atlantic
1 York (Pa.) 22-3 24-3  CAC  Lost in CAC Semis
2 Lincoln 12-4 20-4   Pool B #1
3 Alvernia 19-3 21-4 PnAC  Pool A
4 Widener 19-4 20-4  MACC  Lost In Finals
5 Ursinus 18-5 19-6   CC Plays JHU on 2/26
6 Catholic 16-5 18-6  CAC  Pool A
7 Scranton 17-6 19-6   MACF Pool A
8 Albright 14-7 16-8  MACC  Lost to Messiah in Semis
NR Messiah  17-7 18-9  MACC Pool A

Midwest
1 Lawrence 20-0 22-0  MWC  Pool A
2 Augustana 19-4 21-5   CCIW  Lost to IWU in Semis
3 Transylvania 21-4 21-4  HCAC  Pool A
4 Carroll 18-3 20-3  MWC  Lost in Finals
5 Illinois Wesleyan 14-5 19-5  CCIW  Lost in Finals
6 North Central 14-5 20-5  CCIW  Pool A
7 Washington U. 14-5 17-7  UAA  Finished 2nd
8 Lakeland 17-4 21-6  LMC  Lost in LMC Semis

Northeast
1 Amherst 23-1 24-2  NESCAC Plays Tufts 2/26
2 Worcester Polytech 19-3 20-3  NEWMAC Plays MIT 2/26
3 Tufts 19-4 19-5  NESCAC Plays Amherst 2/26
4 Gordon 22-3 23-4  CCC  Lost in CCC Semis
5 Trinity (Conn.) 15-4 18-5  NESCAC  Lost in Semis to Tufts
6 Bates 15-5 19-5  NESCAC Lost in Semis to Amherst
7 Keene State 15-6 18-6  LEC Lost to Mass-Boston in Finals
8 Rhode Island College 16-8 16-8  LEC  Lost to Mass-Boston in Semis
9 Salem State 18-6 18-7  MASCAC  Lost to Bridgewater St in Semis
10 Williams 16-8 17-8 NESCAC  Did not qualify for Tourney

South
1 Mississippi College 22-1 24-1  ASC-East Plays at HPU on 2/26
2 Trinity (Texas) 16-3 20-6  SCAC  Loss to #8 seed Rhodes in SCAC QtrF. 3pt QOWI loss
3 Virginia Wesleyan 23-3 24-3  ODAC  Pool A
4 Randolph-Macon 19-5 22-5   ODAC Lost in Finals
T5. Fisk 9-4 14-10  Pool B candidate  Lost to Huntingdon in Semis
T5. Maryville (Tenn.) 14-6 19-6   Pool B #3 Lost to Huntingdon in GSAC Finals
7 Howard Payne 17-6 18-6  ASC-West Plays MissColl in Finals 2/26
8 Mary Hardin-Baylor 17-6 17-8  ASC-West Lost to HPU in Semis
NR Huntingdon 12-6 20-7 Pool B Defeated Fisk and Maryville TN in GSAC Tourney

West
1 UW-Stout 16-4 19-5  WIAC Lost in Finals
2 Puget Sound 15-2 20-4  NWC  Pool A
3 Carleton 17-4 20-5  MIAC Lost in Finals
4 Occidental 11-3 18-4  SCIAC  (CMS has the Pool A.)
5 UW-Whitewater 15-5 19-5  WIAC Pool A
6 UW-La Crosse 17-6 19-6  WIAC Lost to UW-W in semis
7 Wartburg 17-5 19-6  IIAC  Lost in IIAC Semis
8 St. Thomas 18-5 20-5  MIAC  Pool A
UR  CMS  SCIAC Pool A
UR Chapman 10-4 20-7 Pool B

As per Dren,  "Top 40 QOWI" and "Pool C teams" are glowing.  The QOWI's are one day old.

Some of my W-L's are incorrect, but it is too late to worry about those details.

IMHO, if you are glowing, then you are an at-large team and I think that the Pool B's and C's will be picked from these teams.  I await the remaining games, before I list my 22 at-large selections.

[jbl2006]

Could somebody be kind enough to direct to me where on the site that it explains the expanded pool system? Or explain what all this means that you are showing on the board? i'm new to the site and understand its for the Tourney, but more details would be great. I Remember there being an article about the ncaa expanding the c pool on the site, but i cannot find it. Thanks.

[gordonmann]

JBL:

Glad to have you aboard.

I think you'll find our FAQs (click here) will answer a lot of your questions.

Read them over and you can start spouting numbers and letters like a bingo parlor announcer, too.

[jbl2006]

Thanks that answers all of my questions.

[Maq Diesel]

What are people's thoughts on Gordon College?   Are they close to a lock?

[Titan Q]

Here is a list of today's "Pool C buster" games.  These are contests in which a  current Pool A favorite could lose and move towards the top of the Pool C line...

* Wheaton (Mass) @ WPI (NEWMAC), 1:00pm

* Ramapo @ William Paterson (NJAC), 2:00pm

* McMurry vs Mississippi College, neutral (ASC-E), 3:00pm

* Messiah @ Widener (MACC), 3:00pm

* Rochester @ Carnegie Mellon (UAA), 4:00pm
  Wash U @ Chicago (UAA), 4:00pm
(not tourney games...CMU needs a win or a Wash U loss to clinch AQ)

* Utica @ St. John Fisher (E8), 7:00pm

* Franklin @ Transylvania (HCAC), 7:30pm

* Ohio Northern @ Baldwin Wallace (OAC), 7:30pm

* Whitworth @ Puget Sound (NWC), 10:00pm

The following games involve teams I think are both getting in regardless...

- Bates @ Amherst
- Hope @ Calvin
- Carroll @ Lawrence
- Stout @ Whitewater
- Wittenberg @ Wooster

And here are some other key games that will impact Pool A/C...

- Brandeis @ NYU
- North Central vs Illinois Wesleyan
- Carleton @ St. Thomas
- Tufts vs Trinity
- Washington College @ Ursinus

[sac]

Worcester Polytech 81, Wheaton (Mass.) 67

[joehakes]

In a game that may impact Pool C with Gordon College, the CCC championship game between Endicott and Colby-Sawyer has been postponed to tomorrow due to bad weather in New England.  The game will be played at 2 p.m. Eastern Time.

[Knightstalker]

WPU beats Ramapo for the NJAC AQ.  Finally a number one seed wins a conference tournament.  Ramapo may get mentioned but I think winning was their only hope.  The way things are shaping up, the NJAC gets the AQ and that is it this season.