Pool C

Started by Pat Coleman, January 20, 2006, 02:35:54 PM

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dren

I think that can be extended to 9.9 for QoWI along with .750 in region winning %

9.9 contains the top 10% and would add

Baruch    9.958    21-3 who is a lock from being a previous #1 seed

Widener 9.920    19-4 20-4
Lakeland    9.905    17-4 is bubbling but I think they are in now with the Washington loss.

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Seems to me that the NCAA usually tries to have some sort of Midwest/South/West Sectional and then a Midwest/Great Lakes/South Sectional.

I'm thinking in the West/Midwest/South sectional, we could see something like: (i'm guessing about 14 or 15 teams based on 59 teams in 4 sectionals.)

WIAC: Stout and possibly Whitewater
IIAC: Buena Vista
MIAC: St. Thomas and Carleton (?)
LMC:  Edgewood and possibly Lakeland
MWC:  Lawrence and Carroll
SCIAC:  Claremont-Mudd-Scripps and possible Occidental
SCAC:  Trinity or rep.

I'm not real familiar with the South Region teams.  But looking at past brackets, it looks like teams like Mississippi College and Maryvill (TN) are more central and thrown into the Great Lakes Sectional.  I'm guessing the SCAC (Texas area) rep can play the SCIAC rep in the first round, possibly giving Puget Sound a bye since they are in no man's land.  If Lawrence is thrown into the West Sectional, they may also get a bye.  

Say there is 14 or possible 15 teams in the the "West" sectional, obviously being four four-team regionals (and some three).

Four regionals for the West/South Sectional?

Regional #1
Puget Sound-bye (NWC AQ)
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (SCIAC AQ)
Centre or DePauw (SCAC AQ) or Trinity (SCAC Pool C)

*one flight to UPS on Saturday

Regional #2
Lawrence-bye (MWC AQ)
Lakeland-(LMC Pool C)
North Central (CCIW AQ)

*no flights, short rides

Regional #3
Whitewater (WIAC AQ)
Carroll (MWC Pool C)
WLC (LMC AQ)
Carleton (MIAC Pool C)

*no flights, all in the Milwaukee area, only Carleton with a long bus ride


Regional #4
Stout (WIAC Pool C)
St. Thomas (MIAC AQ)
Buena Vista (IIAC AQ)
Trinity (TX) (SCAC Pool C)

*only one flight

I kept teams from the same conference out of each other's regionals.  The NCAA makes an effort not to match up conference foes in D1, but of course, this isn't D1.  Just a thought.  As I said, I'm not familiar with the South Region teams, so maybe they will be a factor as well.

I also tried to make it "balanced" by having two AQs and two Pool Cs, except possibly the Puget Sound regional because of travel.





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Quote from: dren on February 26, 2006, 02:38:41 AM
I think that can be extended to 9.9 for QoWI along with .750 in region winning %

9.9 contains the top 10% and would add

Baruch    9.958    21-3 who is a lock from being a previous #1 seed

Widener 9.920    19-4 20-4
Lakeland    9.905    17-4 is bubbling but I think they are in now with the Washington loss.

I think WashU still has a shot, their QOWI is the 8th or so highest of teams not getting at large bids and they have been ranked in all the regional polls up to this week.  I am not saying they are definitely in but I think they have a chance.

Pat Coleman

Our take on Pool C, including the 18 we'd take if the season ended tonight:

http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/?p=146
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So all of us that have been following the end of the season so closely, are we all going to post our predicted Pool C's somewhere?  I've got 2 choices tomorrow...study at the med center library all day or spend the whole day analyzing the Pool C....umm, I pick the Pool C...so I assume everyone would post in this forum if it will happen, right?

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how do you see the east regional bracket looking.
I think it will be
1) Fisher
2) Hamilton
3) Cortland State
4) ???

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Think you have the first three, and in correct order.  Don't be surprised if you see a surprise to fill the bracket, e.g. Wooster(311 miles) , or York, PA (356 miles). 

The committee could decide to send a power team to a weak region to avoid decimating the power regions.  In the west it's hard due to flights, travel, etc.  But Fisher is within bus trip distance of most of the Great Lakes teams.
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Quote from: Old School on February 26, 2006, 02:40:14 AM
Regional #3
Whitewater (WIAC AQ)
Carroll (MWC Pool C)
WLC (LMC AQ)
Carleton (MIAC Pool C)

*no flights, all in the Milwaukee area, only Carleton with a long bus ride


No problem with the teams, and reasons you have included them there, but I question the pairings. Carroll owns a 10 point win over Whitewater this year and I doubt they would be the lowest seed of those 4.
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Quote from: Old School on February 26, 2006, 02:40:14 AM
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Four regionals for the West/South Sectional?

Regional #1
#1 Puget Sound- (NWC AQ)  vs. #4 Trinity* (SCAC Pool C)
#2 Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (SCIAC AQ) vs #3Chapman (Pool B).

If Trinity wins, then they are "detoured" via Southern California.

*one flight to UPS on Thursday

How about that bracket? ;)

Pat Coleman

Here's my mock East bracket, first draft, after finishing all eight brackets at 5:00 this morning:

East
St. John Fisher
Cortland State
Baldwin-Wallace
Trinity (Conn.)
Hamilton
Norwich
Plattsburgh State
CCC champ

This has not been vetted for 500-mileage yet.
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Pat what does your projected NE bracket look like?

Pat Coleman

   Northeast
1   Amherst
2   Worcester Polytech
3   Tufts
4   Gordon
5   Elms
6   Mass-Boston
7   Bridgewater State
8   BYE
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Ralph Turner

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Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 26, 2006, 02:37:54 AM
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I think that my reply #596 is almost there.  I think that my 18 Pool C picks are in that list.  Assumng no upsets tomorrow, Keene State, Lakeland and Bates and 2 more are definitely my bubble teams!

My pool B's are Lincoln, Bethany, Huntingdon and Chapman. ...

My differences with Pat Coleman were Utica NY in and Wash StL out.

My Pool B's were Lincoln, Bethany, Huntingdon and Chapman, but I posted the comparison between Chapman and Maryville TN in the Daily Dose and understand his selection.