Pool C

[diehardfan]

As far as I can tell, if they are marked with a little black box on the d3hoops.com schedules, they are indeed in-region.  They've done a very good job in tracking all of those down.

I found at least one error.

http://www.d3hoops.com/school_info.php?year=2007&team=mens&school=Claremont-Mudd-Scripps

CMS @ La Sierra is definitely in region and not marked as such. Argh.... this sure is a lot more time consuming this year... I just don't understand how you did it that fast. 

[miacwatchmen]

I saw St. John's is ranked 3 in the West region and C 1 how much does their loss to D-2 St. Cloud State hurt. The victory over #3 in the nation St. Thomas has to help them though.

[TeeDub]

I found at least one error.

http://www.d3hoops.com/school_info.php?year=2007&team=mens&school=Claremont-Mudd-Scripps

CMS @ La Sierra is definitely in region and not marked as such. Argh.... this sure is a lot more time consuming this year... I just don't understand how you did it that fast. 

Does that mean that La Sierra against any of the SCIAC teams is IN REGION??

[diehardfan]

Well, it's a DIII team and in Cali.... I don't know why it wouldn't be.... am I missing something? 

[diehardfan]

      In Region
Team   Conference   Wins   Losses   Win %
Stevens Point    (WIAC)   17   1   94.4
St Thomas   (MIAC)   20   2   90.9
St. Johns    (MIAC)   17   2   89.5
Occidental    (SCIAC)   11   2   84.6
Redlands    (SCIAC)    10   2   83.3
Loras    (IIAC)    13   3   81.3
Oshkosh    (WIAC)    16   4   80.0
Chapman    (IND)   13   5   72.2
Coe    (IIAC)    13   5   72.2
CLU    (SCIAC)    11   5   68.8
Bethel    (MIAC)    13   6   68.4
Buena Vista    (IIAC)    10   5   66.6
Pomona    (SCIAC)    8   4   66.6

CMS had only five regional losses, but was 7-5 in region and really not worth calculating... even if they somehow win out (unlikely) it will be pretty bad.

I'll try to do QOWI at some point, but it's a whole heck of a lot of work.... 

[pabegg]

La Sierra is year 2 provisional. Its games do not count; only year 3 and 4 provisionals count in the regional calculation.

Year 4 schools: Keystone, Texas-Tyler, Tri-State, Green Mountain
Year 3: Crown, Maine-Presque Isle, Mt Aloysius, Mt Mary, PS-Berks, Minn-Morris
Year 2: Bethany Lutheran, La Sierra, Mitchell, North Central (MN), Northwestern (MN), Presentation, Purchase, Salem
Year 1: Lancaster Bible, Lincoln Christian, Lyndon St, St. Vincent, SUNY Morrisville

[diehardfan]

Thanks! For some reason I thought they had already been provisional before I moved out here... guess I'll have to redo all the SCIAC teams regional records.

[pabegg]

La Sierra started the provisional program in 2005-6. When the current provisional program was started in 2003, they only took five schools a year, so La Sierra was in limbo for a couple of years before starting the program.

[Pat Coleman]

Thanks! For some reason I thought they had already been provisional before I moved out here... guess I'll have to redo all the SCIAC teams regional records.

Why not use our regional records?

[diehardfan]

Thanks! For some reason I thought they had already been provisional before I moved out here... guess I'll have to redo all the SCIAC teams regional records.

Why not use our regional records?

Where? 

edit: oh dear lord.... how embarassing... I just saw it

Incidentally, I also forgot an entire conference, an important one.... so yeah... I'll just go back to working on the Quarterly report for my grant....

[David Collinge]

Thanks! For some reason I thought they had already been provisional before I moved out here... guess I'll have to redo all the SCIAC teams regional records.

Why not use our regional records?

Where? 

http://www.d3hoops.com/regions.php?region=west&team=m&view=standings

[Pat Coleman]

When do they come out with updated regional rankings and where can I find them on the internet?

February 7th, and the easiest source is right on the front page.... Pat and the staff are pretty good at getting them right after they are published on the NCAA site. They'll probably be in the Daily Dose.... but I'm not going to speak for Pat on that one. 

Yes, front page, Daily Dose.

[diehardfan]

I realized I didn't post this here this morning. Since it was one of my waking thoughts, well, yeah, I have issues.  Sorta reminds me of that blog Pat posted about how he dreamed about the Final Four.

Pat do you remember the teams? How are they doing this year? 

team	W-L	.Pct	QOWI
UW-Stevens Point (WIAC)	17-1	.944	11.667
St. Thomas (MIAC)	20-2	.909	10.364
St. John's (MIAC)	17-2	.895	10.211
Whitworth (NWC)	16-2	.889	10.167
Occidental (SCIAC)	9-2	.818	10.182
Redlands (SCIAC)	9-2	.818	09.455
Puget Sound (NWC)	13-3	.813	09.625
UW-Oshkosh (WIAC)	15-4	.789	10.158
Loras (IIAC)	13-4	.765	09.706
Coe (IIAC)	14-5	.737	09.737
Lewis & Clark (NWC)	11-4	.733	09.214
Bethel (MIAC)	14-6	.700	08.800

My Projected West Rankings:

1)   Stevens Point
2)   St Thomas
3)   St Johns
4)   Whitworth
5)   Occidental
6)   Oshkosh
7)   Puget Sound

The next one: Redlands (I think they give the nod to Puget Sound despite more regional losses than redlands. Their QOWI is just slightly better, and the NWC has had more playoff success. I hope I'm wrong though! )

Incidentally, thanks to Greg for the table formatting.... just looking at the code makes my head spin.

[Pat Coleman]

http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/?p=199

I still got one team from my subconscious in the running.

[Mr. Ypsi]

http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/?p=199

I still got one team from my subconscious in the running.

Pat, just re-read the blog.  Any idea who was in the other semi?