Pool C

[Greek Tragedy]

so it's on the most current page, and it has been updated thru Saturday's games!

I've added the current records and the overall current rank of the QOWI according to Pat's most recent chart...

Atlantic Region
1. (44) Stevens 21-6 21-6 (LOST in Skyline Semis)
2. (13) Ramapo 21-7 20-5 (Won NJAC AQ)
3. (39) Manhattanville 23-5 22-5 (Won Skyline AQ)
4. (55) New Jersey City 18-9 17-8 (LOST to Ramapo in NJAC Final)
5. (74) Rowan 20-6 15-6  (LOST to Ramapo in NJAC Semis)

East Region
1. (19) Brockport State 23-5 22-5 (LOST to Plattsburgh State in SUNYAC Final)
2. (15) St. John Fisher 22-5 21-5 (Won Empire 8 AQ)
3. (11) St. Lawrence 22-5 21-5 (Won Liberty League AQ)
4. (46) New York U. 19-6 18-6 (lost to Brandeis, needs a Pool C)
5. (20) Rochester 18-7 18-6 (beat Carnegie Mellon, still needs a Pool C)

Great Lakes Region
1. (4) Lake Erie 25-2 21-1 (Won AMCC AQ)
2. (27) Wooster 25-3 20-2 (Won NCAC AQ)
3. (31) John Carroll 19-9 18-7 (LOST to Capital in OAC Final)
4. (36) Hope 23-4 16-4 (LOST to Calvin in MIAA Final)
5. (52) Ohio Northern 19-7 14-7 (LOST to Otterbein in OAC Quarters)
6. (62) Wittenberg 22-5 17-5 (LOST to Ohio Wesleyan in NCAC Semis)

Middle Atlantic Region
1. (30) Johns Hopkins 22-4 21-3 (plays Haverford in Centennial Finals)
2. (32) Messiah 19-6 16-4 (LOST to Widener in MAC-Commonwealth Semis)
3. (42) Alvernia 23-4 22-2 (Won PnAC AQ)
4. (25) Lincoln (Pa.) 18-8 11-3-IND:  POOL B
5. (21) Catholic 22-5 21-5 (Won CAC AQ)
6. (40) Hood 21-7 20-6 (LOST to Catholic in CAC Final)
7. (37) King's (Pa.) 19-8 19-7 (Won MAC-Freedom AQ)
8. (45) Scranton 19-7 17-7 (LOST to DeSales in MAC-Freedom Semis)

Midwest Region
1. (12) Chicago 20-5 19-5 (LOST to Washington U., needs Pool C bid)
2. (18) Augustana 22-5 22-4 (Won CCIW AQ)
3. (9) Washington U. 12-4 18-4 (defeats Chicago in UAA, gets UAA AQ)
4. (14) Aurora 25-2 24-2 (Won NathCon Final:  POOL B
5. (57) Elmhurst 21-6 17-6 (LOST to Augustana in CCIW Final)
6. (73) Carthage 16-9 13-8 ([Reg. season complete, did not make CCIW tourney)
7. (64) Grinnell 17-7 16-7 (LOST to Lake Forest in MWC Semis)
8. (70) Wheaton (Ill.) 17-9 13-8 (LOST to Elmhurst in CCIW Semis)

Northeast Region
1. (2) Amherst 25-1 24-1 (plays Williams in NESCAC Final)
2. (8 ) Salem State 24-2 24-2 (Won MASCAC AQ)
3. (7) Trinity (Conn.) 21-4 17-4 (LOST to Williams in NESCAC Semis)
4. (3) WPI 22-2 20-2 (plays Coast Guard in NEWMAC Final)
5. (6) Rhode Island 24-3 24-3 (Won LEC AQ)
6. (26) Keene State 23-5 20-5 (LOST to Rhode Island in LEC Final)
7. (17) Brandeis 19-6 19-6 (defeated NYU, still needs a Pool C)
8. (47) Bates 18-7 17-7 (LOST to Amherst in NESCAC Quarters)
9. (49) Husson 22-6 22-4 (LOST to Elms in NAC Final)
10. (80) Western New England 19-8 19-8 (LOST to Emmanuel in GNAC Semis)

South Region
1. (10) Mississippi College 24-2 22-1 (plays Hardin-Simmons in ASC Final)
2. (24) Va. Wesleyan 23-4 22-4 (LOST to Hampden-Sydney in ODAC Semis)
3. (51) Guilford 21-4 20-4 (LOST to Bridgewater (Va) in ODAC Quarters)
4. (38) DePauw 22-5 19-4 (LOST to Trinity (TX) in SCAC Semis)
5. (43) Mary Hardin-Baylor 22-5 22-5 (LOST to Hardin-Simmons in ASC Semis;a 5-pt QOWI loss)
6. (33) Maryville (Tenn.) 21-6 21-3 (defeated LaGrange in GSAC Final)-POOL B
7. (23) Centre 22-4 16-4 (plays Trinity (TX) in SCAC Final)
8. (54) McMurry 20-7 19-5 (LOST to Mississippi College in ASC Semis)

West Region
1. (1) UW-Stevens Point 25-2 24-1 (Won WIAC AQ)
2. (5) St. Thomas 24-3 24-3 (Won MIAC AQ)
3. (23) St. John's 20-7 20-4 (LOST to St. Thomas in MIAC Final)
4. (34) UW-Oshkosh 21-6 18-6 (LOST to La Crosse in WIAC Semis)
5. (16) Occidental 19-5 14-3 (Won SCIAC AQ)
6. (28) Whitworth 23-3 20-3 (Won NWC AQ)
7. (29) Loras 21-6 19-4 (Won IIAC AQ)
8. (41) UW-La Crosse 19-8 17-7 (LOST to Stevens Point in WIAC Final)

[diehardfan]

Thanks OS... I'm sure I missed one or two teams wins and losses updating some of the results which must have been confusing...  I'm just not anywhere near 100% right now... sick, weak, bedridden and stir crazy is more like it! Rar. I almost went for a run today despite being way to sick to do that just because I couldn't stand being in the house anymore.

[Greek Tragedy]

West Region
1. (1) UW-Stevens Point 25-2 24-1 (Won WIAC AQ)
2. (5) St. Thomas 24-3 24-3 (Won MIAC AQ)
3. (23) St. John's 20-7 20-4 (LOST to St. Thomas in MIAC Final)
4. (34) UW-Oshkosh 21-6 18-6 (LOST to La Crosse in WIAC Semis)
5. (16) Occidental 19-5 14-3 (Won SCIAC AQ)
6. (28) Whitworth 23-3 20-3 (Won NWC AQ)
7. (29) Loras 21-6 19-4 (Won IIAC AQ)
8. (41) UW-La Crosse 19-8 17-7 (LOST to Stevens Point in WIAC Final)

Looking at this region, it looks like it's the only one that went "chalk". lol    Really, no upsets at all.  Oshkosh lost to the lower ranked La Crosse, but La Crosse was the #2 seed with Oshkosh the #3 in the WIAC tourney.

[sac]

Through Saturday:

Overall   Points   In-reg rk   Team   Region Win%   Overall
1   11.680   1   UW-Stevens Point   0.960 (24-1)   25-2
2   11.640   1   Amherst   0.960 (24-1)   25-1
3   10.864   2   Worcester Polytech   0.909 (20-2)   22-2
4   10.818   1   Lake Erie   0.955 (21-1)   25-2
5   10.815   2   St. Thomas   0.889 (24-3)   24-3
6   10.704   3   Rhode Island College   0.889 (24-3)   24-3
7   10.667   4   Trinity (Conn.)   0.810 (17-4)   21-4
8   10.654   5   Salem State   0.923 (24-2)   24-2
9   10.636   1   Washington U.   0.818 (18-4)   20-4
10   10.609   1   Mississippi College   0.957 (22-1)   24-2
11   10.577   1   St. Lawrence   0.808 (21-5)   22-5
12   10.542   2   Chicago   0.792 (19-5)   20-5
13   10.480   1   Ramapo   0.800 (20-5)   21-7
14   10.462   3   Aurora   0.923 (24-2)   25-2
15   10.423   2   St. John Fisher   0.808 (21-5)   22-5
16   10.412   3   Occidental   0.824 (14-3)   19-5
17   10.320   6   Brandeis   0.760 (19-6)   19-6
18   10.308   4   Augustana   0.846 (22-4)   22-5
19   10.296   3   Brockport State   0.815 (22-5)   23-5
20   10.292   4   Rochester   0.750 (18-6)   18-7
21   10.269   1   Catholic   0.808 (21-5)   22-5
22   10.250   4   St. John's   0.833 (20-4)   20-7
23   10.200   2   Centre   0.800 (16-4)   22-4
24   10.192   3   Virginia Wesleyan   0.846 (22-4)   23-4
25   10.143   2   Lincoln   0.786 (11-3)   18-8
26   10.120   7   Keene State   0.800 (20-5)   23-5
27   10.091   2   Wooster   0.909 (20-2)   25-3
28   10.087   5   Whitworth   0.870 (20-3)   23-3
29   10.087   6   Loras   0.826 (19-4)   21-6
30   10.083   3   Johns Hopkins   0.875 (21-3)   22-4
31   10.040   3   John Carroll   0.720 (18-7)   19-9
32   10.000   4   Messiah   0.800 (16-4)   19-6
33   9.958   4   Maryville (Tenn.)   0.875 (21-3)   21-6
34   9.917   7   UW-Oshkosh   0.750 (18-6)   21-6
35   9.909   5   Averett   0.818 (18-4)   20-6
36   9.900   4   Hope   0.800 (16-4)   23-4
37   9.885   5   King's   0.731 (19-7)   19-8
38   9.870   6   DePauw   0.826 (19-4)   22-5
39   9.815   2   Manhattanville   0.815 (22-5)   23-5
40   9.808   6   Hood   0.769 (20-6)   21-7
41   9.792   8   UW-La Crosse   0.708 (17-7)   19-8
42   9.750   7   Alvernia   0.917 (22-2)   23-4
43   9.741   7   Mary Hardin-Baylor   0.815 (22-5)   22-5
44   9.741   3   Stevens   0.778 (21-6)   21-6
45   9.708   8   Scranton   0.708 (17-7)   19-7
46   9.708   5   New York University   0.750 (18-6)   19-6
47   9.708   8   Bates   0.708 (17-7)   18-7
48   9.696   6   Hamilton   0.696 (16-7)   19-7
49   9.654   9   Husson   0.846 (22-4)   22-6
50   9.632   9   Lewis and Clark   0.737 (14-5)   19-7
51   9.625   8   Guilford   0.833 (20-4)   21-4
52   9.619   5   Ohio Northern   0.667 (14-7)   19-7
53   9.609   7   Plattsburgh State   0.739 (17-6)   20-8
54   9.583   9   McMurry   0.792 (19-5)   20-7
55   9.520   4   New Jersey City   0.680 (17-8)   18-9
56   9.481   6   Capital   0.704 (19-8)   19-8
57   9.478   5   Elmhurst   0.739 (17-6)   21-6
58   9.458   9   Villa Julie   0.750 (18-6)   20-7
59   9.458   10   DeSales   0.708 (17-7)   19-8
60   9.450   7   Westminster (Pa.)   0.800 (16-4)   18-8
61   9.400   8   Utica   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
62   9.364   8   Wittenberg   0.773 (17-5)   22-5
63   9.360   10   Tufts   0.600 (15-10)   15-10
64   9.261   6   Grinnell   0.696 (16-7)   17-7
65   9.261   11   FDU-Florham   0.609 (14-9)   17-9
66   9.238   5   Richard Stockton   0.667 (14-7)   17-9
67   9.235   10   Redlands   0.765 (13-4)   17-7
68   9.231   7   Transylvania   0.692 (18-8)   19-8
69   9.200   9   Penn State-Behrend   0.720 (18-7)   19-7
70   9.190   8   Wheaton (Ill.)   0.619 (13-8)   17-9
71   9.185   11   Elms   0.704 (19-8)   20-8
72   9.148   11   UW-Whitewater   0.667 (18-9)   18-9
73   9.143   9   Carthage   0.619 (13-8)   16-9
74   9.143   6   Rowan   0.714 (15-6)   20-6
75   9.100   10   Calvin   0.700 (14-6)   18-9
76   9.091   10   Carroll   0.682 (15-7)   15-8
77   9.091   11   Baldwin-Wallace   0.682 (15-7)   18-9
78   9.091   12   Colby   0.636 (14-8)   15-11
79   9.080   13   Bridgewater State   0.680 (17-8)   17-8
80   9.074   14   Western New England   0.704 (19-8)   19-8
81   9.000   12   Pomona-Pitzer   0.688 (11-5)   16-8
82   9.000   10   Millsaps   0.714 (15-6)   18-9
83   9.000   12   Otterbein   0.600 (15-10)   16-11
84   9.000   7   SUNY-Farmingdale   0.667 (16-8)   18-9
85   9.000   15   Babson   0.600 (15-10)   16-10
86   8.958   8   SUNY-Old Westbury   0.625 (15-9)   18-10
87   8.958   9   William Paterson   0.625 (15-9)   15-10
88   8.958   16   Williams   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
89   8.952   13   Puget Sound   0.714 (15-6)   18-7
90   8.952   14   Cal Lutheran   0.619 (13-8)   17-8
91   8.905   12   Chestnut Hill   0.714 (15-6)   19-9
92   8.885   13   York (Pa.)   0.615 (16-10)   16-10
93   8.880   15   Coe   0.680 (17-8)   19-8
94   8.864   16   Buena Vista   0.636 (14-8)   17-9
95   8.857   11   Bluffton   0.619 (13-8)   18-8
96   8.857   13   Carnegie Mellon   0.524 (11-10)   12-12
97   8.833   14   Susquehanna   0.583 (14-10)   16-10
98   8.826   11   Greensboro   0.739 (17-6)   20-7
99   8.826   15   Juniata   0.652 (15-8)   16-11
100   8.789   12   North Central   0.579 (11-8)   16-10
101   8.783   17   Simpson   0.609 (14-9)   18-9
102   8.783   16   Ursinus   0.652 (15-8)   16-10
103   8.760   13   Edgewood   0.680 (17-8)   18-8
104   8.760   10   Rutgers-Newark   0.600 (15-10)   17-10
105   8.750   17   Mary Washington   0.625 (15-9)   16-10
106   8.739   14   Lake Forest   0.609 (14-9)   15-9
107   8.708   14   Ohio Wesleyan   0.625 (15-9)   18-10
108   8.704   17   Lasell   0.593 (16-11)   16-11
109   8.696   12   Trinity (Texas)   0.609 (14-9)   16-11
110   8.680   9   Clarkson   0.560 (14-11)   14-11
111   8.680   18   Westfield State   0.600 (15-10)   17-11
112   8.667   10   Geneseo State   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
113   8.667   19   Gordon   0.667 (16-8)   19-8
114   8.652   11   Vassar   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
115   8.640   18   Bethel   0.680 (17-8)   18-8
116   8.630   15   Dominican   0.630 (17-10)   17-10
117   8.625   12   Oswego State   0.583 (14-10)   15-12
118   8.609   18   Baptist Bible   0.696 (16-7)   18-8
119   8.600   20   Middlebury   0.600 (15-10)   15-10
120   8.524   19   Haverford   0.619 (13-8)   14-11
121   8.522   16   Defiance   0.609 (14-9)   17-9
122   8.500   13   Texas-Dallas   0.667 (16-8)   18-8
123   8.500   11   York (N.Y.)   0.708 (17-7)   18-10
124   8.462   20   St. Mary's (Md.)   0.577 (15-11)   16-11
125   8.458   13   Rochester Tech   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
126   8.455   15   Bethany   0.682 (15-7)   19-8
127   8.440   21   Mass-Dartmouth   0.560 (14-11)   14-13
128   8.423   22   Endicott   0.577 (15-11)   15-11
129   8.400   17   Fontbonne   0.600 (12-8)   16-11
130   8.381   18   Mt. St. Joseph   0.571 (12-9)   13-12
131   8.364   19   Ripon   0.545 (12-10)   13-10
132   8.364   14   Ithaca   0.545 (12-10)   14-12
133   8.353   19   Claremont-Mudd-Scripps   0.588 (10-7)   15-10
134   8.346   23   Rivier   0.731 (19-7)   20-8
135   8.333   20   Hanover   0.571 (12-9)   14-11
136   8.333   14   Hardin-Simmons   0.593 (16-11)   16-11
137   8.333   16   Tri-State   0.611 (11-7)   16-9
138   8.333   15   SUNYIT   0.583 (14-10)   16-11
139   8.333   24   Bowdoin   0.583 (14-10)   15-10
140   8.320   12   St. Joseph's (L.I.)   0.640 (16-9)   17-9
141   8.318   21   Webster   0.591 (13-9)   16-10
142   8.304   25   Emerson   0.652 (15-8)   16-9
143   8.238   22   Lawrence   0.524 (11-10)   13-10
144   8.211   20   Chapman   0.737 (14-5)   21-5
145   8.208   23   Lakeland   0.583 (14-10)   16-11
146   8.200   24   Franklin   0.600 (15-10)   16-10
147   8.148   26   Wentworth Tech   0.630 (17-10)   17-11
148   8.143   25   MacMurray   0.619 (13-8)   16-9
149   8.143   21   Lycoming   0.524 (11-10)   13-12
150   8.115   27   MIT   0.500 (13-13)   14-13
151   8.105   17   Albion   0.526 (10-9)   10-15
152   8.095   21   UW-Platteville   0.524 (11-10)   13-12
153   8.091   26   Manchester   0.545 (12-10)   15-10
154   8.091   22   Wilkes   0.500 (11-11)   12-11
155   8.080   23   Widener   0.520 (13-12)   14-12
156   8.053   28   St. Joseph's (Maine)   0.632 (12-7)   19-7
157   8.000   22   Gustavus Adolphus   0.538 (14-12)   14-13
158   8.000   15   Roanoke   0.636 (14-8)   17-10
159   8.000   16   Hampden-Sydney   0.583 (14-10)   17-10
160   8.000   29   Springfield   0.462 (12-14)   12-14
161   7.958   18   Heidelberg   0.500 (12-12)   13-13
162   7.958   30   Western Connecticut   0.542 (13-11)   14-12
163   7.955   31   Eastern Connecticut   0.545 (12-10)   15-11
164   7.947   17   Hendrix   0.526 (10-9)   15-10
165   7.917   27   Wisconsin Lutheran   0.583 (14-10)   15-11
166   7.917   16   RPI   0.500 (12-12)   13-12
167   7.913   18   LeTourneau   0.609 (14-9)   15-10
168   7.900   24   Marymount   0.500 (10-10)   14-11
169   7.889   23   Pacific   0.556 (10-8)   12-13
170   7.889   19   Adrian   0.556 (10-8)   10-15
171   7.880   20   Wilmington   0.480 (12-13)   13-13
172   7.864   24   Carleton   0.500 (11-11)   11-15
173   7.826   13   Kings Point   0.565 (13-10)   14-12
174   7.818   21   Grove City   0.545 (12-10)   16-12
175   7.818   17   Union   0.500 (11-11)   11-14
176   7.783   28   Eureka   0.565 (13-10)   16-10
177   7.783   25   Lebanon Valley   0.522 (12-11)   14-11
178   7.778   19   LaGrange   0.611 (11-7)   18-9
179   7.773   18   Alfred   0.455 (10-12)   10-14
180   7.760   20   Oglethorpe   0.520 (13-12)   14-12
181   7.739   29   North Park   0.478 (11-12)   13-12
182   7.727   19   Buffalo State   0.455 (10-12)   12-13
183   7.708   20   Hobart   0.417 (10-14)   11-14
184   7.708   32   Emmanuel   0.458 (11-13)   12-16
185   7.667   26   Gettysburg   0.542 (13-11)   13-13
186   7.667   27   Pitt-Bradford   0.519 (14-13)   14-13
187   7.667   21   Oneonta State   0.476 (10-11)   11-15
188   7.667   33   Curry   0.556 (15-12)   15-13
189   7.650   14   Montclair State   0.400 (8-12)   12-12
190   7.609   28   Eastern   0.609 (14-9)   16-11
191   7.609   22   Nazareth   0.435 (10-13)   11-14
192   7.591   29   Albright   0.364 (8-14)   10-14
193   7.591   15   Kean   0.455 (10-12)   13-12
194   7.577   25   St. Olaf   0.500 (13-13)   13-14
195   7.565   30   Gwynedd-Mercy   0.565 (13-10)   14-12
196   7.565   34   Castleton State   0.565 (13-10)   15-11
197   7.545   16   New Jersey   0.409 (9-13)   12-14
198   7.542   22   Muskingum   0.458 (11-13)   12-13
199   7.542   17   Yeshiva   0.542 (13-11)   15-11
200   7.542   35   Roger Williams   0.583 (14-10)   15-10

Let me know if I got it right or wrong, but I think the bold are all the A's and italics are the B's.

[hugenerd]

I have a question, which is probably a dumb one.  On the list above, NYU and Scranton have the same QOWI, but Scranton is listed higher (even though NYU has a better regional record).  Is Scranton listed higher for a reason, or is there really no difference in their ranking?  (I understand they are not in the same region so this doesnt really matter, but I was wondering because those two are right around that 18 team cutoff for Pool C, if you go just by QOWI).

[Matt Letourneau]

SAC--#92 York PA did not get the AQ out of the CAC, Catholic (also bolded) did.

[hopefan]

Someone must have already done this, but just in case, the top 18 C poolers, excluding teams not still playing for conference championships, bottoms out at no. 45 Scranton.
In the 7 championships remaining, none of the games appear to have 2 sure thing C bids facing each other. In fact, none of the lesser rated teams in each game would have a shot at a C bid if they lose.
However, Amherst, WPI, J Hopkins,Centre, and Misssissippi would all take a C bid away if they lose in their finals. 
The Current bottom 5, at least by this measuring stick are   Hood 40,  UW Lacrosse 41, Mary Hardin Baylor 43,  Stevens 44 and Scranton 45.

[hugenerd]

Someone must have already done this, but just in case, the top 18 C poolers, excluding teams not still playing for conference championships, bottoms out at no. 45 Scranton.
In the 7 championships remaining, none of the games appear to have 2 sure thing C bids facing each other. In fact, none of the lesser rated teams in each game would have a shot at a C bid if they lose.
However, Amherst, WPI, J Hopkins,Centre, and Misssissippi would all take a C bid away if they lose in their finals. 
The Current bottom 5, at least by this measuring stick are   Hood 40,  UW Lacrosse 41, Mary Hardin Baylor 43,  Stevens 44 and Scranton 45.

NYU has the same QOWI as scranton and a better regional record.  This goes back to my question earlier.

[Pat Coleman]

There's no tiebreaker involved -- it's a very simple sort in Excel.

[sac]

SAC--#92 York PA did not get the AQ out of the CAC, Catholic (also bolded) did.

In my defense, I just copied from the earlier list, using the updated  QOWI numbers. 

[diehardfan]

willams and coast guard making it very interesting in the last few seconds!!! 

some pool c's may be eaten up in a few seconds... 

edit: Amherst loses!!! Uh oh... this is going to be a crazy day...

[ChicagoHopeNut]

Does Coast Guard go by another name on the QoWI list we have on this page?

Also Amherst just blew the NESCAC after having a 15-0 lead and burst someone's bubble.

[David Collinge]

Holy cow!    That's what happens when you have to play your arch-rival in the conference title game!  Thank goodness Ohio Wesleyan beat Wittenberg! 

Does this mean that Amherst does not get a bye?  Opinions? 

[fisheralum03]

who's bubble just got burst by AMHERST and WPI losing?

[ChicagoHopeNut]

Another bubble bursts. Coast Guard is about to finish off WPI upo 71-66 with 8 seconds left.