Pool C

[Ralph Turner]

"Geographic proximity" (read number of flights) comes first. Not matching conference rivals comes second.

We're forgetting one thing, that Chapman is currently in position for a Pool B bid. In that case, it's highly likely that:

If Cal Lutheran makes it, CLU hosts Chapman, winner to Oxy (with bye).

If Cal Lutheran doesn't and Oxy holds onto hosting spot, then Oxy will host a group with Chapman, the NWC champion, and MHB.

If Cal Lutheran doesn't and Oxy can't hold onto hosting spot, then Oxy will host Chapman in the first round and then the winner will fly out somewhere (WashU or St. Thomas?) while MHB would get to host an all-flying group with the NWC champion.

Yes!  Great point! +1 

The only team that I see in bussing range for UMHB is Millsaps, and I don't think that Millsaps hosts.

[LogShow]

OxyBob... if I remember correctly, UMBH's coach was complaining - rightly so - because UMHB was facing Mississippi College in the first round. That is a same conference (ASC) match-up in the first round. That is a no-no for the NCAA. They don't want same conference schools facing each other in the first round - as I am sure no one would!

So, I wouldn't say he was pitching a hissy fit - as you say - for no good reason!

The NCAA squared up Clarmont and Oxy in 2005 in the first round were the winner's reward was a trip up to the pacific northwest to play Puget Sound.

Actually, it was in 06. Thanks to Pat for helping me find that!

My fault I wasn't clear...05-06,  its all straight now though

[LogShow]

It will be an interesting role reversal if UPS can get the NWC bid and if Oxy can hold on to its hosting.  The NWC would have to travel to the SCIAC.

[Pat Coleman]

Or they could both be traveling somewhere else.

[Greek Tragedy]

Well, WEDNESDAY, FEB 13th is R-Day!

That's when the first REGIONAL RANKINGS come out!

[LogShow]

Or they could both be traveling somewhere else.

that why I said "if"   

[pabegg]

OK, just for the heck of it, my first bracket projection of the year. Based on results to date, Pool A bids going to the highest rated team in the conference, not the leader, except for the UAA.

From west to east, (weekend host listed first, midweek host second if 3-team bracket)

Occidental – Cal Lutheran (C) – Chapman (B)
St. Thomas – Buena Vista – UW-Whitewater (C) – Nebraska Wesleyan (B)
Washington U – UW Stevens Point (C) – Webster
Lawrence – Augustana – DePauw (C) – Defiance
Capital – Wooster – Lake Erie
Hope – UW-Platteville – Loras (C) – Bethany
Mary Hardin-Baylor – Maryville TN (B) – Millsaps (C) – Puget Sound
Centre – Guilford – Averett
Ursinus – William Paterson – Messiah (C) – Baptist Bible
Gettysburg (C) – DeSales – Virginia Wesleyan (C) – Immaculata
Richard Stockton (C) – Widener – Stevens (C) – Moravian (B)
Rochester (C) – Brockport (C) – York PA – York NY
Plattsburgh – Nazareth – WPI – Farmingdale
Amherst – Brandeis (C) – Emerson
Mass-Dartmouth – Bowdoin (C) – Salem St – Gordon
Middlebury (C) – Trinity CT (C) – St. Lawrence – Elms

This gives hosting to top 2 in each region except Atlantic, with extra seed to Northeast.

The "bottom 19" Pool A and B are separated as far as possible (some brackets must have two low seeds in the bracket, and all brackets have at least one bottom seed).

[Pat Coleman]

Alright, first run of these for the season for us:

http://www.d3hoops.com/salem/08/owp.htm

OWP and OOWP for all teams through Sunday's games. Subject to entry errors, of course, although I have gone through all of the schedules at least once.

[pabegg]

Alright, first run of these for the season for us:

http://www.d3hoops.com/salem/08/owp.htm

OWP and OOWP for all teams through Sunday's games. Subject to entry errors, of course, although I have gone through all of the schedules at least once.

North Central MN is not on the list; have they been held back? I thought they would be third-year provisional this year.

Is Finlandia being excluded because of their low number of regional games? I would think that since they have enough D3 games, they should be included even though their regional count is so low.

Overall, I'm off by about 50 games from your count (only Wentworth and Northwestern MN show up twice) and I'll check the discrepancies. Brockport is the only contender for Pool C that appears to be contested.

[pabegg]

Brockport is the only contender for Pool C that appears to be contested.

Got that one already. Season opener with Rowan is not regional.

[Pat Coleman]

Brockport is the only contender for Pool C that appears to be contested.

Got that one already. Season opener with Rowan is not regional.

Dammit -- I've changed that in the system at least once this season. Not sure why people keep changing it back.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Heck - I have changed that to a non-regional game twice, at least!

[Jacketfan2011]

I have a question but I will attempt to answer it myself.  I assume that Rochester's 16-3 regional record does not include their win over Ohio Wesleyan at Rochester.  Is that correct?

[pabegg]

I have a question but I will attempt to answer it myself.  I assume that Rochester's 16-3 regional record does not include their win over Ohio Wesleyan at Rochester.  Is that correct?

Correct, that game is not regional.

[pabegg]

One obvious miss is that George Fox - Pacific Lutheran games should both be regional (only one is on the scoreboard).