Pool C

Started by Pat Coleman, January 20, 2006, 02:35:54 PM

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I think Brandeis and Rochester literally switched places after this weekend. As Brandeis goes from 6-2 and I think Rochester from 2-6, although I am not totally positive on the Rochester move. That being said as of right now, the UAA still has 4 teams in the tournament on the mens side.

Titan Q

pabegg, a few discrepancies between your chart and D3hoops:

* Chicago is 14-6, not 14-7 (Chicago @ DePauw not in-region)

* DePauw is 14-4, not 15-4 (Chicago @ DePauw not in-region)

* Cal Lutheran is 15-3, not 16-4

* Wheaton (IL) is 13-6, not 14-6


Also note, Guilford is currently the leader (Pool A) in the ODAC.  Virginia Wesleyan is a C candidate right now, not the A.

Titan Q

Also...

Stevens is the A in the E8 right now...Nazareth the C.

David Collinge

Quote from: Titan Q on February 18, 2008, 03:28:22 PM
pabegg, a few discrepancies between your chart and D3hoops:

* Chicago is 14-6, not 14-7 (Chicago @ DePauw not in-region)

* DePauw is 14-4, not 15-4 (Chicago @ DePauw not in-region)

Hyde Park and Greencastle are only about 170 miles apart.  Should be in-region.

LogShow

St. Thomas always seems to have a high west region ranking every year...but I don't even remember them making much noise in the tourney

pabegg

Quote from: Titan Q on February 18, 2008, 03:28:22 PM
pabegg, a few discrepancies between your chart and D3hoops:

* Chicago is 14-6, not 14-7 (Chicago @ DePauw not in-region)

* DePauw is 14-4, not 15-4 (Chicago @ DePauw not in-region)

* Cal Lutheran is 15-3, not 16-4

* Wheaton (IL) is 13-6, not 14-6


Also note, Guilford is currently the leader (Pool A) in the ODAC.  Virginia Wesleyan is a C candidate right now, not the A.

I found the Cal Lutheran error and I'm in the process of rerunning (it affected a bunch of lower ranked West Coast teams as well).

I forgot about the error on Chicago-DePauw (well under 200 miles but not according to the official web site). Same with Wheaton-Calvin which is close to 200 miles. I've got 5 other discrepancies on the regional games, all involving teams with lower records.

My Pool A assignments are not based on the standings, except for the UAA. The team with the best overall rating gets the Pool A assignment (since they are the most likely to win the conference tournament). So Nazareth and Guilford are correct under this process.


Pat Coleman

Quote from: David Collinge on February 18, 2008, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on February 18, 2008, 03:28:22 PM
pabegg, a few discrepancies between your chart and D3hoops:

* Chicago is 14-6, not 14-7 (Chicago @ DePauw not in-region)

* DePauw is 14-4, not 15-4 (Chicago @ DePauw not in-region)

Hyde Park and Greencastle are only about 170 miles apart.  Should be in-region.

Not on mappoint.msn.com, which insists the shortest possible distance is via Indianapolis.
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Quote from: LogShow on February 18, 2008, 04:01:12 PM
St. Thomas always seems to have a high west region ranking every year...but I don't even remember them making much noise in the tourney

In the last seven years St. Thomas has qualified for the NCAA 3 times: 07,06,02. Their record is 1-3 in those 3 trips.
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Quote from: sumander on February 18, 2008, 04:33:00 PM
Quote from: LogShow on February 18, 2008, 04:01:12 PM
St. Thomas always seems to have a high west region ranking every year...but I don't even remember them making much noise in the tourney

In the last seven years St. Thomas has qualified for the NCAA 3 times: 07,06,02. Their record is 1-3 in those 3 trips.

West region is tough.

Last big bang by St. Thomas on the national scene was when they reached the final four in 1994.

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Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2008, 04:12:10 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on February 18, 2008, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on February 18, 2008, 03:28:22 PM
pabegg, a few discrepancies between your chart and D3hoops:

* Chicago is 14-6, not 14-7 (Chicago @ DePauw not in-region)

* DePauw is 14-4, not 15-4 (Chicago @ DePauw not in-region)


Hyde Park and Greencastle are only about 170 miles apart.  Should be in-region.

Not on mappoint.msn.com, which insists the shortest possible distance is via Indianapolis.

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pabegg

OK, I've updated the rankings up above.

My discrepancies from the records used to generate the OWP/OOWP on this site are as follows:

York NY to Nichols is under 200 miles
La Roche and Marymount are both Mid-Atlantic
Regis and Wheelock are both Northeast
I've got one more win for MSOE and one more loss for MBBC (compare their conference records on their own pages to the NAthC standings page)
I think that Finlandia's 3 regional games should count (1 for Alma and 2 for Northland)

That's it.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

La Roche/Marymount was fixed a week or two ago... not sure why it was changed back to a non-regional game. However, it has been fixed again.

The York (NY)/Nichols game was also fixed a week or two ago... it has also been fixed once again.

Regis/Wheelock indicated regional when I looked at it and I know of no one else changing that right now. So, it is correct.
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Ralph Turner

I found these 6 conferences are not listed in pabegg's tabulations.

Northeast Region
CCC -- Roger Williams currently leads.

Mid-Atlantic Region
Penn AC -- Alvernia
NEAC  -- Baptist Bible

Great Lakes Region
Presidents AC --  Bethany WV

South Region
USA South AC -- Methodist

West Region
Northwest Conference -- Whitworth has the tie-breaker.

smedindy

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2008, 04:12:10 PM

Not on mappoint.msn.com, which insists the shortest possible distance is via Indianapolis.

That's just wrong and silly. Just truck up 231 to Lafayette, then hop on I-65 towards Chi-town. Yeesh.
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PABegg,

Loving that chart you did.  I wish I could give you karma points.  Any chance you inputted that data into an excel sheet and can PDF it, so I can print it out and view it.  Maybe I'll try to copy and paste your info. and do it myself.

Anyways, great stuff.