Pool C

[Just Bill]

Anyone know if the D3hoops crew will be doing bracket projections this year?

Women's projections are already posted.  Men will be up soon, I would guess.

[Ralph Turner]

Chris, please remember that last year there was not a Chapman, getting a Pool B in southern California.

Question for you Ralph. Since it looks like the West Coast teams might all stay out there, could you see a scenario in which MS College squeezes in just due to no travel costs, rather than flying a 4th team to Millsaps. Though they will be low nationally on the pool C list, the Choctaws should be #8 in the south region rankings. Seems like that is what happened with the HSU women two years ago when they played at McMurry.

Chris, I really don't see MissCollege making the tourney.  The OWP and the OOWP are lousy as we have discussed on the ASC board.  Miss College has no worthy South Region (Ranked opponent) wins.

We have 16 first round brackets.  There are 11 4-pods and five 3-pods.

I can see Jackson hosting four teams that can be bused, as I mentioned above.

On Hoopsville just now, Pat Coleman thinks that UMHB might even host a game, probably in a 3-pod.  That lets Millsaps get bused to Wash StL, if they host.  You can bus Maryville TN to Wash StL.

[Ralph Turner]

Anyone know if the D3hoops crew will be doing bracket projections this year?

Women's projections are already posted.  Men will be up soon, I would guess.

Actually all of the gurus who would do the projections are talking about the tourney on Hoopsville.

Go to the front page and join us!

[Just Bill]

Chris, please remember that last year there was not a Chapman, getting a Pool B in southern California.

Question for you Ralph. Since it looks like the West Coast teams might all stay out there, could you see a scenario in which MS College squeezes in just due to no travel costs, rather than flying a 4th team to Millsaps. Though they will be low nationally on the pool C list, the Choctaws should be #8 in the south region rankings. Seems like that is what happened with the HSU women two years ago when they played at McMurry.

Chris,

Bracketing and host duties are subject to travel costs and finances, but selection into the tourney is NOT.  It's done on on-court performance only according to the written criteria.

[fcnews]

The committee needs to consider that Wash U., with new construction going on, has no parking. Huge problem. This from the team accross the street. I really don't see Wash U. hosting, with Saturdays loss to Chicago. They move to 19-6. Fontbonne does not want to walk 50 meters to play Wash U. for the second straight year. Great reward.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

There's too many good teams in the region for WashU to host.

Whitewater and Augustana both have a better shot.  Even Lawrence has the record to get to host (although the size of the gym isn't ideal).

[Knightstalker]

Tom, you keep listing Scranton as an AQ, the Landshark conference does not have an AQ this year, they are in pool B.  Otherwise great work.

[Titan Q]

The committee needs to consider that Wash U., with new construction going on, has no parking. Huge problem. This from the team accross the street. I really don't see Wash U. hosting, with Saturdays loss to Chicago. They move to 19-6. Fontbonne does not want to walk 50 meters to play Wash U. for the second straight year. Great reward.

Would you rather get sent 497 miles on a bus?

[jagluski]

The committee needs to consider that Wash U., with new construction going on, has no parking. Huge problem. This from the team accross the street. I really don't see Wash U. hosting, with Saturdays loss to Chicago. They move to 19-6. Fontbonne does not want to walk 50 meters to play Wash U. for the second straight year. Great reward.

What Fontbonne wants has nothing to do with whether or not Wash U hosts.  And trust me, the committee could care less what Fontbonne wants.  Let's be honest here though, you don't want to walk across the street to Wash U because you're never able to beat the Bears.

That being said, I wouldn't expect Wash U to host either.

[fcnews]

Titan Q - I like bus rides. Sorry your time got squeezed on Hoopsville. We waited all night for ya. Good job with the women's explanations.

Nice Comment Jagluski - Nobody said the NCAA cares.

[Hugenerd]

I saw on the front page that d3hoops made projections for the womens field, any idea if they made projections for the men, and, if so, where they can be found?

[fcnews]

On Hoopsville they said they would be up in about an hour.

[Hugenerd]

On Hoopsville they said they would be up in about an hour.

Thanks

[Greek Tragedy]

LAST GAME HAS GUILFORD AND VIRGINIA WESLEYAN GOING INTO OT.  I'D GUESS THE LOSER IS A LOCK FOR POOL C.


I'll make RED the tournament (AQ) winners
I'll make BLUE Pool C contenders

Was it GREEN that I can't use? (color blind)

Don't worry, there will be a lot more color come Sunday!

Team W-L  Reg.
W-L OWP OOWP

Atlantic Region
1. Richard Stockton  18-6  18-5 .511 .521 (NJAC):  Def. Ramapo 60-59 in NJAC semis; def. William Paterson 67-66 in NJAC final.
2. William Paterson  18-6  18-6 .526 .516 (NJAC):  Def. Monclair State 71-61 in NJAC semis; LOST to Richard Stockton 67-66 in NJAC final
3. Farmingdale State  20-5  19-4 .466 .477 (SKY):  Def. SUNY-Maritime 84-69 in Skyline semis; def. St. Joseph's (L.I.) 91-71 in Skyline final
4. York (N.Y.)  20-8  18-7 .539 .502 (CUNYAC):  LOST to John Jay in CUNYAC final 68-54.
5. St. Joseph's (L.I.)  20-5  19-5 .433 .477 (SKY):  Def. Yeshiva 73-52 in Skyline semis; LOST to Farmingdale State 91-71 in Skyline final

East Region
1. Plattsburgh State  23-2  20-0 .496 .527 (SUNYAC):  Def. Fredonia State 72-62 in SUNYAC quarters; def. Geneseo State 65-57 in SUNYAC semis; def. Owego State 89-75 in SUNYAC finals
2. Rochester  19-5  18-5 .595 .565 (UAA): Won at Carnegie Mellon 74-67
3. St. Lawrence  17-8  16-5 .555 .515 (Liberty):  LOST to Clarkson 54-48 in Liberty semis.
4. Brockport State  18-7  15-5 .570 .531 (SUNYAC):  Def. Oneonta State 77-70 in SUNYAC quarters; LOST to Oswego State 87-72 in SUNYAC semis .
5. Stevens  20-5 20-5 .460 .524 (Empire 8 ):  LOST to Nazareth 81-70 at Ithaca in E8 semis.

Great Lakes Region
1. Hope  21-3  15-2 .508 .494 (MIAA):  Def. Alma 75-51 in MIAA 1st round; def. Adrian 83-64 in MIAA semis; def. Calvin 88-72 in MIAA final
2. Capital  21-4  20-4 .528 .524 (OAC):  Def. Mount Union 67-54 in OAC quarters; def. Ohio Northern 81-76 in OAC semis; LOST to Heidelberg 83-75 in OAC final
3. Wooster  22-3  15-2 .484 .490 (NCAC):  Def. Oberlin 104-71 in NCAC quarters; LOST to Wabash 87-63 in NCAC semis.
4. Heidelberg  20-5  18-4 .519 .521 (OAC):  Def. John Carroll 104-74 in OAC quarters; def. Baldwin-Wallace 99-80 in OAC semis; def. Capital 83-75 in OAC final
5. Penn State-Behrend  21-4  19-3 .466 .492 (AMCC):  Def. Penn State-Altoona 62-42 in AMCC semis; def. Lake Erie 57-54 in AMCC final
6. Albion  18-5  14-3 .476 .496 (MIAA):  Def. Kalamazoo 64-56 in MIAA 1st round; LOST to Calvin 75-58 at Hope in MIAA semis

Middle Atlantic Region
1. Ursinus  23-2  20-1 .512 .515 (Centennial):  Def. Dickinson 93-79 in Centennial semis; def. Gettysburg 85-78 in Centennial final
2. Gettysburg  21-3  19-2 .529 .516 (Centennial):  def. Johns Hopkins 80-69 at Ursinus in Cent. semis; LOST to Ursinus 85-78 in Centennial final 
3. Widener  20-5  17-4 .560 .535 (MACC):  Won at Albright 67-53 in MACC semis; Won at Lycoming 75-61 in MACC final
4. York (Pa.)  18-7  18-6 .539 .502 (CAC):  LOST to Salisbury 76-71 in CAC quarters.
5. DeSales  20-5  16-4 .465 .506 (MACF):  Def. Wilkes 69-53 in MACF semis; LOST to King's 71-62 in MACF final
6. Albright  16-7  16-6 .559 .544 (MACC):  LOST to Widener 67-53 in MACC semis.
7. Lycoming  16-9  13-8 .567 .554 (MACC):  Def. Lebanon Valley 71-56 in MACC semis; LOST to Widener 75-61 in MACC final
8. Scranton  17-8  15-8 .538 .504 (LAND):  Won at Moravian 79-78 in Landmark semis; def. Juniata 64-57 in Landmark final (POOL B CANDIDATE)

Midwest Region
1. Augustana  20-5  19-5 .575 .555 (CCIW):  Def. Elmhurst 69-68 OT in CCIW semis; def. Illinois Wesleyan 71-60 in CCIW final
2. Washington U.  19-5  16-4 .647 .565 (UAA):  LOST at Chicago 74-66
3. Lawrence  20-2  18-2 .555 .515 (MWC):  Def St. Norbert 59-58 in MWC semis; def. Carroll 98-95 OT in MWC final
4. Wheaton (Ill.)  19-6  15-6 .577 .549 (CCIW):  LOST Illinois Wesleyan 81-78 in CCIW semis at Augustana.
5. Chicago  17-7  16-7 .605 .568 (UAA):  def. Washington U. 74-66
6. Elmhurst  18-7  17-7 .505 .537 (CCIW):  LOST at Augustana 69-68 OT in CCIW semis.
7. Aurora  20-5  18-5 .465 .496 (NathCon):  Def. Benedictine 96-75 in NathCon quarters; def. MSOE 89-64 in NathCon semis; LOST to Lakeland 82-77 OT in NathCon final (POOL B CANDIDATE)
8. Webster  19-5  17-5 .492 .481 (SLIAC): Def. Westminster (Mo.) 62-40; LOST to Maryville (Mo.) 76-73 in SLIAC semis.

Northeast Region
1. Amherst  23-2  23-1 .601 .553 (NESCAC):  LOST to Bowdoin 65-64 in NESCAC semis
2. Mass-Dartmouth  23-2  23-2 .530 .529 (Little East):  Def. Mass-Boston 131-63 in LE quarters; def. Southern Maine 75-69 in LE semis; LOST to Rhode Island College 55-52 in Little East final
3. Brandeis  19-5  18-5 .610 .580 (UAA): def. NYU 58-44
4. Worcester Tech  20-5  19-4 .535 .495 (NEWMAC):  def. Babson 60-59 in NEWMAC semis; LOST to Coast Guard 82-66 in NEWMAC final
5. Bowdoin  20-5  20-5 .571 .533 (NESCAC):  Won at Amherst 65-64 in NESCAC semis; LOST to Trinity (Conn) 74-55 in NESCAC final
6. Rhode Island College  19-6  19-6 .545 .529 (LEC):  Def. Plymouth State 77-58 in LEC quarters; def. Keene State 68-63 at UMass-Dartmouth in LEC semis; def. Mass-Dartmouth 55-52 in Little East final
7. Trinity (Conn.)  19-6  17-5 .615 .549 (NESCAC):  def. Middlebury 72-63 at Amherst in NESCAC semis; def. Bowdoin 74-55 in NESCAC final
8. Middlebury  19-6  18-5 .596 .528 (NESCAC):  LOST to Trinity 72-63(Conn.) at Amherst in NESCAC semis
9. Emerson  22-3  21-3 .442 .499 (GNAC):  Def. Daniel Webster 93-70 in GNAC quarters; def. St. Joseph's (Maine) 79-75 in GNAC semis; LOST to Lasell 86-72 in GNAC final
10. Elms  19-6  17-5 .512 .483 (NAC):  Def. Maine-Farmington 79-65 in NAC quarters; def. Becker 78-53 in NAC semis; def Lesley 72-65 in NAC final

South Region
1. Centre  23-1  18-1 .503 .498 (SCAC):  Def. Austin 67-53 at Hendrix in SCAC quarters; def. Trinity (TX) 70-57 in SCAC semis; LOST to Millsaps 69-60 in SCAC final 
2. Mary Hardin-Baylor  22-3  20-2 .494 .505 (ASC):  Def. East Texas Baptist 66-50 in ASC quarters; def. Hardin-Simmons 60-55 in ASC semis; def. Concordia-Austin 82-73 in ASC final
3. Guilford  21-4  20-4 .531 .527 (ODAC):  Def. Eastern Mennonite 81-66 in ODAC quarters; def. Roanoke 67-57 in ODAC semis; def. Virginia Wesleyan in ODAC final 91-80.
4. Virginia Wesleyan  20-5  19-4 .520 .522 (ODAC):  Def. Bridgewater 78-69 in ODAC quarters; def. Hampden-Sydney 68-55 in ODAC semis; LOST to Guilford in ODAC final 91-80
5. Millsaps  22-3  17-2 .476 .493 (SCAC):  Def. Rhodes 86-57 at Hendrix in SCAC quarters; def. Hendrix 73-68 in SCAC semis; def. Centre 69-60 in SCAC final 
6. Maryville (Tenn.)  22-2  16-2 .451 .497 (GSAC):  Def. Huntingdon 84-65 at Piedmont in GSAC semis; def. Piedmont 90-79 in GSAC final (POOL B CANDIDATE)
7. Randolph-Macon  20-5  15-5 .538 .527 (ODAC):  LOST to Hampden-Sydney 69-67 in ODAC quarters.
8. Mississippi College  19-5  16-5 .507 .507 (ASC):  LOST to Howard Payne 94-90  (OT) in ASC quarters.

West Region
1. UW-Whitewater  21-4  19-4 .492 .540 (WIAC):  Def. Stout 78-67 in WIAC quarters; Def. Superior 77-73 OT in WIAC semis; def. Stevens Point 75-71 in WIAC final
2. St. Thomas  21-4  19-3 .499 .522 (MIAC):  Def. Bethel 69-68  in MIAC semis; def. Gustavus Adolphus 76-73 in MIAC final
3. Occidental  20-4  13-3 .531 .527 (SCIAC):  Def. La Verne 67-57; LOST Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 66-62 in SCIAC semis.
4. UW-Stevens Point  20-5  18-5 .575 .525 (WIAC):  Def. La Crosse 74-66 OT in WIAC quarters; def. Eau Claire 88-65 in WIAC semis; LOST at Whitewater 75-71 in WIAC final
5. Buena Vista  20-5  16-3 .496 .528 (IIAC):  Def. Dubuque 91-86 in IIAC semis; LOST to Loras77-69 in IIAC final.
6. Cal Lutheran  20-4  16-4 .498 .529 (SCIAC):  Def. Ponoma-Pitzer 70-51; LOST to Pomona-Pitzer 54-44 in SCIAC semis.
7. UW-Platteville  19-6  17-5 .526 .535 (WIAC):  LOST to Eau Claire 84-80 in WIAC quarters.
8. Loras  19-6  16-4 .518 .535 Def. Coe in 82-64 IIAC semis; def. Buena Vista 77-69 in IIAC final

[interestedparty]

Pool B guesses: Maryville, Aurora, Scranton, Chapman (duh! on all four of these)

Pool C guesses:

Amherst
Centre
Mass-Dartmouth
Gettysburg
Brandeis
Washington U.
Rochester
Capital
Wooster
Virginia Wesleyan
UW-Stevens Point -- top 11 all locks I think

WPI
Bowdoin
Buena Vista -- these 3 really probable

15. Middlebury over Emerson -- Middlebury ranked higher last week and bad loss for Emerson

16. Occidental over Cal Lutheran -- need a 4th team for a pod out West and they are probably deserving anyway with overall record and higher OWP than Cal Lutheran

17. Brockport State over Cal Lutheran, Emerson, Albion -- 5th team out West would cause problems, too many NE teams already, dead heat with Albion, but much higher OWP

Just left out -- Emerson, Cal Lutheran, Albion, William Paterson, St. Lawrence, DeSales

Good OWP, not-good-enough RR -- Oswego State, Albright, Bates, Wheaton
Good RR, bad OWP -- Webster, Stevens, St. Joseph's, Lake Erie, Vassar