MBB: Conference of New England

[CCC Fan]

I think that discussion comes up every year (atleast the past three or four).  Someone says that the CCC has never won in the NCAA's and then someone points out that Anna Maria used to actually have a good team.

[Bill Gorman]

The CCC had an autobid in 1995 (Salve Regina), 1996 (Anna Maria), and 1997 (Wentworth).  The bid was taken away in 1998 (Wentworth would have gone again) and 1999 (Roger Williams would have gone) and then given back when they instituted the autobids across the board.  Of course, during this time, the men played in the Northeast region, while the women (who didn't lose their bid in 1998) were classified in the Atlantic region.

http://www.ncaa.org/library/records/basketball/m_basketball_champs_records/2005/2005_m_basketball_champ_record.pdf

Good luck to all the CCC teams playing this week/weekend!

[24/7/365]

The link is for DII.  Not much help for us in the DIII realm. 

By the way, anyone interested in listening to Hoopsville, put on by the fabolous men of D3hoops.com, GC's Coach Schauer will be on during their show tomorrow from 8-11pm.  I'm not sure what time he will be on, maybe Pat Coleman can give us some light there, but if not, I will find out tomorrow and post it as well.  Even if you aren't a GC fan, Schauer's interview will be good PR for the CCC.

[Bill Gorman]

The link is for DII.  Not much help for us in the DIII realm. 

There is a whole section on Division III.

[cstrike]

The link is for DII.  Not much help for us in the DIII realm. 

That's typical of a Gordon fan.... they know it all, even when they don't know jack.  Maybe if you'd stop acting like you know it all and listen to someone every once in a while, you might learn something.

Thanks for the link, Bill.  Good information there.

[24/7/365]

Does that mean we should be listening to you.  A 20 something under achiever, who is so blatantly jealous of anything GC, his only action is to try and cut it down just to make himself, and his pathetic life feel better.  Who was so adamant that GC wouldn't get in.  There was no way they could get in.  It would never happen, ever.  Guess what dude, WE'RE IN THE NCAA TOURNAMENT!!! 

All you are doing now is making yourself look like a jackass, which, if my calculations are correct is probably the proper image of you in your janitors outfit.  Where's that apology we have all been waiting for?   

Hey cstrike, cool job at the hospital, way to put it out there like you might be a doctor, but cleaning catheters isn't exactly brain surgery. 

I'm sure you have been reading post after post, year after year, waiting to pick the right moment in which to pounce on GC and their fans at their weakest time.  But just like every other aspect of your life, it never seems to work out. 

It's no different than your high school girlfriend dumping you for your life.  It's like when your high school girl friend broke up with you for your best friends dad.  Or why your mom always favored your little brother Timmy just that much more. 

Face it dude, you are nothing but a natural born loser, who gets his jolly's off by starting a ruckus on a D3 basketball site.  I'll bet after every post, you sit back in your chair, with that smug look of contentment, and marvel at your posting master piece.  Because lets face it, if you didn't have D3, you'd only have your inflatable doll Nancy, and she can't even stand you. 

[anECfan]

wow who cares what cstrike says. Just ignore him.

I think you are making yourself out to look more like an idiot by feeling like you have to retaliate for everything he says.  Sorry that you feel the need to take offense to everything because you go to Gordon or something.

ps. Its great to see that you were undefeated at home during the regular season, getting the first seed in the tournament, winning by 1 on a questionable call in round 1 at home and having the student section storm the court for a win over a much lower seed, losing by double digits to CSC, and then praying all day sunday in church for an at large bid.

If you want to come to a banner ceremony ours will be in the fall.

[roy_williams]

wow. tough day for 24, on 24 day, no less. first people are in his grill about how fast you can drive 93 and storrow (and ps 20 miles doesn't equal 20 minutes when going to Boston please be cogno) and now the kid gets railed for not finding a topic in a 130 page document.

c'mon halo, you're better than that. dont jump on a mistake like that to get your potshots at GC. the document was 78 pages long at best; maybe the kid didn't have adobe acrobat. c'mon, you're better. you said your peace early, were wrong, and then promised to be a man about it. it's over. let it alone. go get the pom pom's cleaned and go wish your precious Stevens Point well for a repeat. it's okay to leave the CCC. i'm as happy as anyone to see some new posters on here (especially when we get some people in the know from schools outside the big three) and the new excitement is cool, but you're better than to take cheapies GC using something as small as that. you're reaching now. i guess i always had hoped better from you. i thought you were the chosen one...

and you can leave the garbage at home, what with the "great job Bill, thanks for that insightful, hard to find info!!!" we all know ya faking it to make your point look better. i mean about two days ago you had us believing you wrote the NCAA handbook. please don't pawn off being impressed by something i know you stumbled on when you were googling all of NCAA.org. the kid hit the records tab on the homepage and voila, it's all right there. wasn't hard. i know you know that, mister fact checker.

it's over. GC's in. let it go.

[roy_williams]

sorry you take offense to alcoholism just cuz you go to Endicott or something.

ps. it was great to see all the fair weather EC fans "pack" the Post center come tourney time again. i mean there had to be at least 5-6 dudes packing the sideline, hootin and hollerin'---i mean really deafening. and they were all painted with their favorite player's jersey number. now that is intimidation. we used to do it high school too, except...only the chicks did it...and they would paint the number of the player they were dating....but...no, i mean hey it's the 2000's dude i can dig it. man crushes are in nowadays. who wouldn't want to wear the jersey of a classmate?!?!?!

seriously, next year Red, when you are done hanging your banner (and dude that ceremony is gonna be AWESOME---i bet they give away two domino's pizzas and maybe Jeremy Currier can hoist it up!!!!) try and post before the season over. i think you could add alot to the board. it is too easy when all is said and done. oh yah, and also if your "student section" wants to stand at all during the games, skip pickel'd one night and come to the Bennett for the road tilt, or i don't know basically make noise it would be greatly appreciated. it gets old making more noise than you @ the Post and having the AD come control your bird.

have a long ride home from one and done in NY. that will be 0-4. nice. do they have banners for that?

also, i understand most of the posters trying to knock GC down with the "way to charge the court" have limited to no basketball knowledge....but maybe they happend across this game; let me set the stage: you have the best fans in the world, the #1 team in the land vs the unranked, worst in conference team, early in the season, and a miracle finish. and look what happend. oh my! crazies charging the court? act like you been there DUKE!

[anECfan]

First of all there is nothing wrong with a little drinking. I do not take offense to that.  What college doesn't?  Go to almost any school and attend a pregame party or even the after game parties, we have fun.

That is not the point.  We are here to talk basketball.  Did you even attend the championship game?  We had more than 5 or 6 fans on the sidelines.  I went to the Gordon-CSC game and the fans were just standing there, they weren't loud at all.  Who cares if someone paints their body, I see that as dedication.  Fans all around the country paint their bodies for their games.  Yellow tee shirts? Please.  I think body paint is an art and takes a lot more time than putting on a tee shirt.

The bar jokes are getting pretty old.  I think most of the EC fans find it funny. Who cares if we drink.  It gets old making more noise than us?  Ya it worked this year when we beat you by 15 at our gym and when at your gym on your home floor you blew a 20 point lead with all this "noise".  We have no control over the AD so I can't respond to that.

Banner for 0-4?No? NCAA appearances?Yes and that is three in a row.  Banners for third place for finish and number one seed?Nope they do not.

Ok so I may have been a little wrong with the charging the court.  Apparently it gave you a huge boost for the next game.  If you were at the EC game it seemed as though the fans were a little hesitant to charge the floor because it gets quite old year after year after year.(thats three in a row)

I thought you got respect for winning championships but apparently that is not enough.  I don't know what EC has to do to earn it but apparently 3 straight doesn't speak for itself like it used to.  When the Jordan-era Bulls won three in a row, and the Kobe-Shaq Lakers won three in a row, weren't they respected? I am not saying we have shaq, kobe, or jordan on our team, or any NBA prospects we are simply looking for respect.

Now lets just stop the bickering and look forward to a great weekend of basketball.

[cstrike]

First off, 24, the apology is there.  But since you go to Gordon, I guess you don't know how to read.

And roy, I'm sure our boy 24 does have Acrobat since he so ignorantly observed that the link was "only DII."  Funny thing is, he'd have to go at least halfway through that to find out that, since it started with DI and had DIII stuff in the back.

I gave your Scots your props, right?  So what's your point?

My point is that while I understand your pride for your schools and for your conference, it's one thing to simply make the tournament.  It's a completely different thing to expect to get in, and expect to win multiple games in the tournament.  From Bill's link (which I didn't stumble across when searching for the championship handbook - and if it's that easy to find, why didn't our boy 24 find it?), the last time that a non-NESCAC team made the final four was UMass-Dartmouth in 1993.  Clark's the last non-NESCAC team to make the national championship game, all the way back in 1987.

The CCC and New England basketball in general is a joke.  My problem is that there's better teams in other parts of the country that are getting screwed out of an opportunity to show what they can do on a national level.  I'm sure the NESCACs don't mind the current setup, since it gets them an easy path into the real games every year.

So the CCC gets two bids.... show us that they're deserving of two bids by actually doing something with the chance that's been given.

[Maq Diesel]

Enough is enough already, lets talk some intellegent basketball before the week is over.  At one point I remember hoops fan saying this was his favorite board because it was all basketball and none of the garbage that has flooded the board in recent days.  "AnECfan" had a good point that lets just pay no attention cstrike all together, EC fan that is something we can agree on.  Roy we don't need to justify rushing the court after winning the game against Nichols, rushing the court is not something we descided on before the game it was spur of the moment, and it was great but its over and we need to move on.  From here on out if you are a regular poster on this board don't respond to cstrike if he pisses you off, its not funny and it is a waste of time.  This board should be for supporters of the schools of the CCC and people that want to talk and inquire intellegently about them.

So, here are some questions that might get us back on the right track of talking bball and not smack.  What do people think of the All-CCC selections?  What are peoples thoughts on the CCC winning a game in the NCAA for the first time in 10 years?  How good are these NY schools that our teams have to (Utica) or might have to play (Cortland St.)?  And although we still have three teams playing, CSC in the ECAC, and we have little information about possible recruiting classes, what will the league look like next year and who are some real early favorites?

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Thanks for chiming in, Bill.  I did some research of my own yesterday to see exactly what the CCC has looked like over the years.  I knew there were some very good teams that got left out of the NCAAs in the 90's because there was no AQ and the CCC didn't have much of a rep.  I wasn't aware that we had an AQ for a while.

FYI: Original CCC members still in the confernece: AMC, WIT, Curry, Salve.

[john]

 i would like to take this time to wish gc and ec good luck. i hope they both do well and show the other conferences that they ccc is not anybodys doormat. the ccc is close to getting the respect that they should have and i hope these two teams do us all well......also to csc in the ecac, go as far as you can and good luck........

[dewcrew88]

So, here are some questions that might get us back on the right track of talking bball and not smack.  What do people think of the All-CCC selections?  What are peoples thoughts on the CCC winning a game in the NCAA for the first time in 10 years?  How good are these NY schools that our teams have to (Utica) or might have to play (Cortland St.)?  And although we still have three teams playing, CSC in the ECAC, and we have little information about possible recruiting classes, what will the league look like next year and who are some real early favorites?

From a Utica alum, I think the game between GC and UC will be a good, close game (closer than I'd like to admit!)

Utica, while 21-6 this season, has an unfortunate problem with not being able to win big games on the road in recent years. Just ask St. John Fisher, who we lost to all three times this year, twice at Fisher. Not knowing your team's lineup all that well, I can say that you need to watch for Ray Bryant and Justin Cichon. They both were named to the E-8 first team and Cichon is the #2 scorer in league history, with over 1,500 points.

However, if GC tries to double Cichon or Bryant, other players can hurt you. Willie Lucas, Doug Herring, and Dennis Munch are just three of the options UC uses to outpoint the competition.
We (as an alum! I get goofed on for saying we on other boards) have good three-point shooting, if UC can shoot 50 percent from three, GC may have a tough time.
Also, I see that GC tries to keep games in the 50-60 point range, and UC likes to run and gun, so if we can get off to a fast start and put up 25 points in the first 10 minutes, it could be over quickly.
Good luck to GC, hopefully UC wins, but this is one fan's HONEST opinion of what could happen.