MBB: Conference of New England

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Pat Coleman

Well, keep in mind we didn't agree with the All-Region team selection per se. We do have a Northeast player on the third team.
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Hey did you take into consideration the fact that someone like Drahos was obviously nominated as a Center so he'd have a better shot at making the list?  Hasn't he been a forward all year?  Most teams these days don't have a true center; they are all forwards.

Honestly, I don't think I'd put St Clair up above any of the forwards.  He might have a case against Drahos as a Center, but I don't think he got snubbed.  There are just too many good players.

I do think Rhoten should have been on there, even if he was a forward.  I'd take him over Welton for sure; more likely he should have had Drahos's Center spot.

I won't argue too much, you've done, as always, a pretty fantastic job.
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Word on the street: a former Boston Celtic seen interviewing at ENC.
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I just talked to someone at the school and they are a buzz with wonder as none other than Dana Barros was interviewing.

He'd be a fantastic recruiter, but you have to wonder if ENC will go with someone without any school ties.  There is also the issue of spirituality.  I don't know anything about Mr Barros personally, but it will be interesting to see if he can sign the statement of faith or if they find a way around it.


On a similar note.  I've never really understood that statement of faith thing.  I mean, if you're sincere about it, then you'll uphold it right, but if you're just signing it to get the job, what do you care if you're lying?  I'm not sure what it accomplishes.

That being said.  I certainly didn't expect to get rumors this good for the summer.  Although its hardly a rumor.  He was on campus and did meet with the AD about the job.
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the_cru

Hoops,

I would love to know who you your contact is.  I heard the same thing but I didn't have the guys to post it on here, just in case it was all hearsay. 

Can you imagine that?  It would be such a huge boost for ENC, but what is Dana Barros doing with his life that would make him want to coach a below .500 christian school?


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Exactly.  That's the point.  However, he does have a rep now as a good teacher of the game, with his successful basketball camps in the area.  Maybe he's looking to break into coaching and you know, you have to start pretty low and work your way up.

I can't imagine ENC would pay him enough, but you never know.

It's great off-season talk though.


I like that ENC is looking at people already.  Maybe they'll make a quick hire this time; they school sure needs the recruiting help.
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Plus, I was just checking out the "Dana Barros Sports Complex" website.  It's down in Mansfield.  I assume he lives nearby somewhere.  That's just down 95 from Quincy; not much of a commute.

He seems to love helping young players develop.

I think the odds are about 100 to 1 right now.
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the_cru

Can you imagine what kind of recruiting Barros could do?


This could be a HUGE off season move for ENC. 


Its about time.
 

the_cru

Here are some potential problems with the whole Barros to ENC talk. 

I know the Head coach would also be required to teach in the Phys Ed Dept.  (Zink was my professor for team sports.)  I know they want someone with a masters, or is getting their masters, or something in the higher education area.  What does Barros have?  anything?  The faith is a big part of it, and again I don't know anything about Barros when it comes to that.  It would take ENC stepping out of the box when it comes to their philosophy for this one to work..  But hey we can dream can't we? 

And don't you think this would be a good thing for the CCC as a whole?  Having a former NBA star in the CCC would be pretty cool.

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Responsibilities Academic and athletic development of student-athletes and recruiting for a competitive basketball program. The head men's coach is responsible for planning and executing a comprehensive NCAA Division III program. Teaching assignments or administrative load will be made commensurate with the candidate's qualifications and institutional needs. Applicants should be able to facilitate multi-cultural, ethnic diversity, and gender understanding on the campus.

Qualifications Master's Degree in Physical Education required. Present evidence of successful experience in coaching and recruiting basketball at the collegiate level. Teaching at the collegiate level is a consideration.

Salary Commensurate with experience.

Application Procedure Applicants shouldsend as soon as possible a letter summarizing their interest in the position, a comprehensive vitae, a brief statement of philosophy, a brief statement of personal faith and at least three letters of reference.

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The Master's Degree thing is up in the air, but Barros has been retired for two full years now, he may have been working on it.  They also are not tied to the coach teaching classes.  They like to have that respect in the office, but there are certainly plenty of people with the academic qualifications to teach basic physical education classes.  I'm sure Zink wasn't teaching advanced Phys Ed classes to begin with.

You're totally right, and I brought that up earlier, ENC has a pretty tight relationship with the Statement of Faith thing.  It's not like they haven't bent those rules for coaches in the past, but it was always because of an institutional connection.

Like I said, right now its 100 to 1, but the rep he could bring to the department might be a little motivation, especially if there is a shake-up coming in the conference.

If anything, ENC fans can be proud of the Athletic Department for getting on this early; that's a huge step forward in itself.
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The latest on the whole Barros to ENC talk...

It is true he was on campus but it looks like it was only to get some info on the job, and it seems very preliminary.  My source tells me he doesn't have a good shot at it... ENC wants someone who is more involved in the Nazarene church, rather than just some church going person. 

I hope I am wrong.  That would be a very dumb reason to let someone like that go.

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I'm pretty sure that he was long gone once he found out what the demands were and what it pays.

I can't see someone with the off-court success that he has had wanting to take a relatively thankless job like a CCC head coach.
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i can see why ENC would not take Barros based on their beliefs as a school. it is pretty common place for a school to make their faculty hold the same beliefs as it does its students. that being said, i don't think money would be a factor. he makes a decent amount of money from NESN and FSN with appearance fees, plus i think he qualified for NBA pension and was a million dollar player. his other business interests have seemingly done well. i thnk he would bring ENC alot of 'Boston' kids and would do wonders for the program. and like Hoops said you have to start some where. former patriot steve nelson coaches Curry football and he still has time to do WEEI and NECN work.