MBB: Conference of New England

backboard · February 04, 2008, 05:23:47 PM

Ok let me enlighten you.

Prezzie-Blue: One of the top two scores in the league
Todd Doyle: One of the best shooters in the league
Bynes: Probably the best defensive center, oh and by the way, he can throw it down too

Those three right there are better than any trio in the league when they play to their ability. That being said, they don't always do that. Sometimes their defense isn't top notch, but they are a team that just needs time to get it right. Exactly why they won it last year, and probably why they'll win it again. I'm not even going to get into the rest of the roster, I'll just let you find out the hard way.

dwebbs · February 04, 2008, 07:14:48 PM

I feel like WIT goes as SP Blue goes. If he is having an off night, it'd be unlikely that Doyle or Bynes could will the team to victory. They're great role players, and can elevate their play if the defense focuses too much on Blue, but that seems to be it.

As where Gordon for example, has Marstaller, Kaufman and Trigg. Either one of those players can carry the team when needed, and if one is having an off night, another picks up the slack. And even Gordon's role players -- Doyle has been the leading scorer in a game for WIT just one more time than Bajema.

RWU has a pretty solid three as well.

CCC Talk · February 04, 2008, 11:16:09 PM

To even compare Doyle to Bajema or even Kaufman is ridiculous, If you've watched more than 2 or 3 wentworth games which very few people here probably have he might be the best player on that team. He can create his own shot, find the open man, and knock down open looks better than just about any guard can do all 3 in the league. There are better shooters there are better penetraters and better distributos but if you watch him play he's the best of the bunch.

Also if you look at WIT's schedule they have played 4 out of 6 league games on the road, against playoff teams. Let's wait a few weeks before shoveling the dirt on them after they've played the rest of the league at home.

broke_ya_ankles · February 04, 2008, 11:24:10 PM

Quote from: CCC Talk on February 04, 2008, 11:16:09 PM
Also if you look at WIT's schedule they have played 4 out of 6 league games on the road, against playoff teams. Let's wait a few weeks before shoveling the dirt on them after they've played the rest of the league at home.

and they went 1-3....

dwebbs · February 05, 2008, 08:46:03 AM

Doyle is second on WIT in scoring (182). Trigg and Marstaller lead the Scots, but their other three starters - Bajema, Schnackenberg and Kaufman -- are all within ten point of Doyle for the season.

Maybe Doyle doesn't compare to the other guys, but the point I am trying to make is that WIT just doesn't have the depth as some other teams.

backboard · February 05, 2008, 10:34:48 AM

I disagree with that, they can go as many as 10 deep if they need to

Put_It_On_My_Tab · February 05, 2008, 11:53:02 AM

Arguing one way or the other between WIT players and Gordon players just doesn't make any sense. They are both solid teams with good players. That's about all one can say while sitting in front of a computer screen....the useless argument could go on for days. Player's names and numbers mean nothing when the ball goes up...ask George Mason about that one.

Tab Tab Buffet

witfan · February 05, 2008, 04:45:38 PM

"....I think last year was a good old fashioned fluke...."

Winning 3 consecutive hard fought playoff road games a fluke? Not likely. Only one player missing from last years squad with some additions. WIT has depth and experience. Wednesday night will be a battle, no doubt, but UNE will face a solid D.

j.CCC · February 06, 2008, 12:27:04 AM

gordon falls to bates 66-61, as kauffman records his 400th carear assist and 999th point.

scout · February 06, 2008, 01:26:25 PM

oh no... not a tarheel fan...
duke will most certainly win this one...

anyway, gordon lost last night in bates' 100 degree gymnasium that even the webcasters admitted is done for a homecourt advantage...
hey, it's totally allowed, but i can't imagine any CCC team traveling up to maine, playing a nescac team in that kind of environment...

gordon turns it around and hosts another maine team in husson tonight...
this is a game that was rescheduled from earlier in the season due to snow...
these two games give gordon a break from CCC play before they host nichols on saturday...

as a side note, justin kaufman notched his 400th career assist last night and sits at 999 career points...
tonight, he will become gordon's first 1000/400 player...
congrats...

broke_ya_ankles · February 06, 2008, 08:18:44 PM

update from the Wentworth/UNE game...

wentworth came out hot scoring the opening 7 points, and building the lead to 15-2 just 5 minutes into the half. UNE answered with a 12-0 run of their own to cut the lead down to 1 with 11:22 to play in the half. The teams played even until 6:28 to go when UNE took their first lead of the game 21-19. UNE would go on to outscore Wentworth 17-10 over the remainder of the first half taking a 38-29 lead into the break.

broke_ya_ankles · February 06, 2008, 09:35:31 PM

more from Wentworth/UNE:

UNE picked up right where they left off scoring the first 9 points of the 2nd half extending their lead to 18 (47-29). the teams play dead even over the next 10 minutes with UNE keeping their 18 pt lead 59-41 with 7:49 to play. Wentworth was able to cut it down to 10 with 2:11 to play, but UNE was able to hang on from there and secure an impressive 72-62 road win tonite.

Jaykyri Simpson proved he is amongst the elite in the league playing reigning league MVP Sherrad Prezzie-Blue point for point throughout 39:20 of the game until the final 40 seconds where SPB scored 5 "garbage time" points. Prezzie-Blue finished with 29, Simpson with 24

I think this proves UNE isnt as much of a "pretender" as everyone has thought....

dwebbs · February 06, 2008, 10:57:35 PM

A lot of close games tonight, but just the one upset.

Put_It_On_My_Tab · February 07, 2008, 12:30:26 AM

Quote from: backboard on February 04, 2008, 04:07:26 PM
Wentworth will not lose at home to UNE, it's a joke to think otherwise. The two teams already played once up at UNE and Wentworth won that game. They have 5 conference wins this year, 5 last year, and 5 the year before that. It would be nice to see another contender in the league, but they're still far from that.

I generally agree with your power rankings, although I'm not sure if the CCC is Roger Williams' to win. I wouldn't be surprised to see a rematch of last years finals again.

Joke? The only joke here is that nobody wants to realize that UNE can beat anyone in this league. Just dominated WIT on the road, and if you want to talk about a big three...how about Simpson, Jefferson, and Stickney. I guess you have found the "contender" that you were hoping for. According to your concensus UNE will lose the rest of there games since they have their 6 wins.

Take a sip of my tab.

dwebbs · February 07, 2008, 11:21:41 AM

You have to give respect to UNE for winning on the road. I know there has been a lot of debate about how good WIT actually is this year, and so far, they haven't given their supporters on this board much to get behind. That being said, WIT is still capable of hitting their stride in two weeks and knocking off UNE in the playoffs in Maine. You have to remember, going into the playoffs last year, WIT had only a small handful of regular season victories to be proud about.

On the other hand, this victory doesn't prove that UNE can "beat anybody in this league" because they can't say that about Curry and WNEC. So while they can enjoy the victory over a 4-4 team now, they aren't out of the gauntlet yet. I haven't seen them in person yet, so it's hard to say how they'll do, but if they come out of their next four games with a wining record, then I think you can say UNE has arrived (in the regular season anyway).