MBB: Conference of New England

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roy_williams

while i feel alittle bad for freedom1 getting bashed out of life, and i agree that this year in particular the board is basically Gordon hoops. We need representation from other schools.

however, just like on an ACC board you don't expect much talk about schools other than Duke, UNC, BC, Maryland, NC State or Wake, you can't expect alot of talk about a Wentworth or UNE or Salve of the world. I mean sure a VA Tech will take a Duke to the wire or maybe even upset a BC, but the board isn't going to devote alot of time talking about a 15-12 (7-9) team. And the same holds true on this board. Sure Wentworth will win 6,7,8 conference games....and maybe they upset a Gordon or CSC or EC. But until they beat all three, or at least two of the three, they are nothing more than a team you don't want to play in the first round. they don't have legitimate championship hopes. they have to make a splash to get noticed. The CCC has four teams who honestly think they will win the CCC; CSC, Curry, GC, and Endicott. Period. Come April, we might talk about a Salve or Wentworth as a dark horse. We might devote some time to them then. But now, unless we support WIT they aren't going to get much run. This is the CCC. Games aren't televised. And not gonna lie, i'm probably not gonna travel NE checking out games. So unless you start 10-0, or are a CSC, GC, EC, or Curry....you aren't gonna get much pub.

the best way is to get students from your school to get on this board. I mean heck, I even think Curry gets underrated because we really don't have anyone reporting on them. Take it from a Chewning, I mean he follows ENC and does a good job of it. He has a take and he doesn't suck. Otherwise you think anyone would mention ENC, unless they were talking about their fall from grace or just how putrid they are? Exactly. Take a lesson from him.

I am all for more coverage of all CCC teams on this board. But to be honest, unless you are a supporter of a team, the average college basketball joe isn't going to post on here. while hoopsfan might beg to differ, there isn't a Jay Bilas of the CCC.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


Sorry for being incommunicado for the last couple days.  I think the whole current-player thing has blow up because of me.  Maybe I wasn't clear enough.  It's discouraged, not prohibited.  Generally the posters have policed themselves by not responding to or calling out players who post on the board.  Generally we let them know its not looked favorably upon and then ignore them.  It's really the responsibility of everyone else to keep it regulated.  So guys, just stop responding to this kid.

Tuesday:

CSC 88 UNE 66.  St Clair went for 34 and 14; Kenny, Bray and Cousins had ten each.  The CSC defense really picked up in the second half.  Perhaps they were just under-conditioned to start the year?  I don't know, but they do have plenty of time to round into form.  McManus had 16, Stikney had 12, Farynaz 10.

Curry over ENC 67-50.  Freshmen Noel had 18 and transfer Seaberg had 11 for ENC, who were 1-14 from three and only shot 31% from the floor.  Marcus Jones had 17 fro CC, 13 from Bartelle, Mohrin 12 and Prescod 12 boards.  Curry didn't shoot well either, but they hit 9 threes and got a few extra boards; I guess that made a big difference.

EC 62 GC 47.  Not quite so close as we thought, although Endicott has given Gordon more trouble than anyone else recently, so we can't write the Scots off until they get a few more losses under their belt.  EC has been playing real well this year; definately overacheiving.  35-20 halftime lead sealed their fate.  Although GC held Marinkovic to only 6 points until he made 8 of EC's last ten, finishing with 14 to lead all scorers.  Corbett had 12 for EC.  Schnackenberg had 12, Logan 11 and Marstaller went 9 and 12 with 5 blocks.  EC won shooting 51% from the floor and holding GC to 31%.  EC played their game and won; that defense really seems to be in good form.

Nichols lost to Fitchburg 58-73.  Mercer had 15, Butler 13 and Edgerton 12.  Lewis shot 2-11 and was held to four points.  Fitchburg was up 51-24 at the half and coasted home.  Nichols shot pretty well from deep, but the seem to have been overmatched the whole game.  This was probably a bad night for them; we shouldn't judge by this performance.

Salve over AMC 79-54.  Salve looks legit, even if it was just iver Anna Maria.  Freshmen Loussaint is proving to be AMC's best player, with 12 points.  Daigneault had 11.  Coute dropped 24 for SRU, Rego had 11.  Not much of a game here.

WIT over NEC 82-73.  WIT looks to have at least 4th place in the North locked up.  Hall went for 19 and 12 with six assists.  PB had 16, Doyle and Gain had 13 a piece.  Bolton had 10.  It looks like NEC put up a good fight though.  Onyechi had 23, Quinn had 18, Sylvia anb Montrod each had 14.  This seems like it was the best game of the night.

Tonight's games:

UNE @ Thomas
WIT @ Coast Guard
EC hosts WPI
NEC hosts Daniel Webster
NC hosts Becker
ENC hosts Emerson
RWU hosts Wheaton (MA)
SRU @ RIC
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roy_williams

do any EC kids have any knowledge about Darko's injury? gordon did a better job on him, but for the most part he was limited by what appeared to be an ankle injury. he was slower than usually, didn't get much elevation on anything (well less than he normally would), was stretching behind the bench for a good chunk of the game and only entered towards the end? also why is he bringing the ball up? is Ellis that lost in the new system? George looks really frusterated.

dsd bag

Nemanja is ok, just a nagging soreness during the game. He has been fine in every other game. He can bring it up as well, he has a decent handle for a big guy. Ellis is the 2-guard in the offense so Burton is bringing the ball up anyways. George was frusterated a bit during the game, but I think anybody would be if they got some of the foul calls go against them like he did.

Im looking for a strong performance tonight from the Gulls against #10 WPI. If they bring the same defense and handle pressure well then they could pull off a nice W tonight.

Oak12

I must say, although new to this forum, I agree, we need to hear something more than Gordon, Gordon, Gordon.  I was in attendence at the 'Dual at the Post' on Tuesday night, proof and point to this subject.  Gordon needs some work.  They shot poorly and were dominated on the boards.  I just don't see anything out of them this year.  It was odd, 2 minutes left in the game and I got the vibe that the Gordon Coach packed it in?  The 15 point lead was up and down all game.  A late time out and some press might have made this more of a game?  I don't know just a thought.

EC looked great.  I have seen a few of their games this year and I really think they are starting to take to Coach Millette's new system.  They ran the ball when it was there and the half court sets had a lot more flow.  I think we have a star in the making with the freshman, Joey Burgos.  Give him a year to hit the weights, with a little size and his jumping ability we are looking at huge potential.  He really lights the gym up with his dunking ability and ups!

Big game tonight for the Gulls, WPI at The Post should be a great one.

24/7/365

Can we please refrain from saying that GC was out matched the whole game?  Yes they got HAMMERED the first half, but the second half was a draw with both teams going for 27.  This game was just a common mistake that GC does of letting their opponent mount a substantial lead and then not being able to counter it.  No one, on either team, put up gaudy numbers on Tuesday night.  Rather everyone was just average.  It was EC's "team" concept and energy that put them through the roof.  I think when EC comes to the Bennett Center, with their students still on break, they wont be able to get as "up" for the game as they did the other night.  Yes I am bitter, but the gap between these two is hardly of Grand Canyon proportions.

intheknow

Wow, very impressive by EC tonight to take the #10 team in the country to the buzzer.  Might just be my opinion, but Coach Millette really seems to be pushing the right buttons.  This guy is doing a great job so far

roy_williams

you bring up a good point oak. gordon just flat out stunk tuesday night; on both sides of the ball. but the result was a product of gordon's underwhelming performance, rather than Endicott running them out of the gym. while i wont take away from the EC win, i'm not going to give them much credit for Gordon's poor performance. the scots are still a strong contender for #1 in the north. they are legit. tuesday was an abberation. they had open looks, and they will adjust defensively. while EC's performance tonight sounds impressive on paper, i'm going to reserve my judgement on who owns exit 17 until the meeting in january.

i agree coach millette looks like a great up and coming coach. With Millette and 3 more years of Burgos it looks like the gulls have reloaded nicely since the departure of Plansky but what else would you expect form a BC man? also one of his assistants Casey Arena, was a star guard at D1 UMaine during the early 90's. he ranked nationally in assists and steals as a senior, including a loss in the championship to a Malik Rose led Drexel University. He scored over 1500 at Umaine, 25th all-time in the America East. now i know just because you play d-1, that doesnt make you a good coach, but he was a very celebral point guard and he brings alot of experience to the Gulls staff.

the_cru

ENC BLOWS OUT EMERSON BY 30!!!!


Haha just joking.  I just thought I would bring some humor to the post.  Emerson came out with a really tough defense and ENC hasn't learned how to shoot yet, Emerson won by 19 ish.  I don't have the stats yet but I just thought I would get this very important score posted.  I knew you all would be wondering. 

CCC Fan

Cru.  I was definitely laughing.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


EC playing well again, comes close to beating #10 WPI, but falls 60-61 on a last-second shot.  EC was up 12 at the half, but they lost their chaacteristic defense and allowed 50% shooting in the second half.  Ellis had 16, Marinkovic had 11 and 9. 

78-45 WIT loses to Coast Guard.  Ouch.  CG up 36-16 at the half.  Prezzie-Blue had 13, but Wentworth just shot horribly; couldn't hit anything.

ENC lost to Emerson by 20.  57-77.  Jasmin had 12; Noel had 11.  ENC allowed nearly 60% shooting from the floor.  Poor showing.

NEC killed (yes killed) Daniel Webster 81-50.  No stats, what do you expect... its NEC.

Salve beats RIC, solidifying their place atop the South for now.  74-72.  GRendal got a putback to break the tie at the buzzer.  He won the player of the week with a 25 point, 24 rebound performance.  Hazzard had 14; Rego, 12.

UNE over Thomas 91-77.  McManus put up 30 (including seven threes), Stikney had 21 and Marriot 19.  Oliver had 13.  This proves one thing: Thomas sucks.

Wheaton over RWU 80-55.  Barranger keeps up the solid play with 17 points.  They just got rocked out of the gym.  Baranger also led the team in rebounds (6) and assists (3).  I wonder if it was just one on five the whole game?
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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


Forgive me for forgetting Nichols and Becker.  NC won 79-59.  Lewis had 19, Vallee 18.  Butler had 10 rebounds.  Lots of rebounds for Nichols and solid bench performance.



This weekends games:

SRU @ Wesleyan on Friday

On Saturday:

NEC @ Thomas
UNE hosts ME-Farmington
RWU hosts WPI
EC @ Wheaton (MA)
SRU hosts Conn Coll
WIT hosts Rensselear
GC @ Salem
AMC @ Bard

AMC vs Newbury or Centenary in the second round of the Bard tournament.
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I like GC's chances at Salem today.  With Salem missing their preseason Player of The Year in that of Shawn Bloom, the gap has dwindled between these two teams.  It's always hard for any team to go into Salem and get a win, but GC has extra motivation to go into their break on a positive note. 

Look for Herr to get back on track today and for Marstaller to keep his low post presence alive.  Schnack has been improving with each game and GC's back court has been consistent as well.  GC, like in every game, can not let Salem get a big lead on them.  Because if that lead goes above 10, early on, GC will mentally pack it in and chaulk it up as an L.

Factoring in the loss of Bloom, and GC's much need for a win, I still have to give the edge to Salem.  The game is goin' to have to be in their favor by 7+.

broke_ya_ankles

salem beats gordon 83-74

Wheaton beats Endicott 71-56

George had 15, Nemanja had 15 and 9

Maq Diesel

I was at the Gordon vs Salem St. game today and Gordon was disapointing.  They held the half time lead and were up by as much as 7 at one point.  GC had a hard time defending in the post and in the second half Salem was pouring everything in, they were throwing up junk and it was falling including a bank shot 3-pointer from the conner.  The difference was GC having a hard time defending Salem's post players and of course, Gordon's achillies heal rebounding, as the Scots were out rebounded 38-20.  Gordon's offense looked much better but still not there yet.  The GC is tired and beat up look for them to be rested and ready after finals and the break.  The Scots will be a force once CCC is in full swing.