MBB: Conference of New England

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dwebbs

the thing is, gordon won. forit didn't lose on purpose and st. clair didn't have a bad game. gordon out played colby. they shot lights out, and were tight on defense. and quite honestly, if they shoot like they did and play defense like they did last night, there is no way they will lose to endicott by 40.

and for anyone who might have thought bray is the best point guard in the conference, kaufman shut him right down last night. it was a good game from gordon.

24/7/365

To Captain James akirk.  My remarks are nothing close to, outlandish, nor did I "pump" up my team, which apparently you can't stand.  My comments, however, were true.  The Saints 20 points couldn't have been less meaningful.  Because even when he got the lead down to 2 (which was actually 3) his "supporting" cast had no heart to take it further.  So when the Saint saw that, he, as well as Foti, packed it in.

I really hope that your are true in your statement of GC only really playing "23 minutes of decent ball." Because if that's the case, I would love to see the throttling they would put on CSC if they played 24 decent minutes, or dare I say, 25.

Listen I understand that as a CSC fan you are upset at 6 straight losses.  I know I would be upset if my team was being made a mockery of night in and night out.  That being the case, vent your frustration with Foti or #44 Szeliga.  Or vent it on the fact that Bray was absolutely owned by Kauffman. But don't try to pick me apart my arguing semantics.   
 

broke_ya_ankles

id like to be the first to say colby-sawyer is down......not out.

its still early in the CCC schedule, and colby-sawyer is an unimpressive 2-2, however theres still another 13 games or so.  And Colby-Sawyer will at least have a shot to string together a tourney run.  There next 3 games are against Anna Maria (2-9, 0-3), NEC (5-5, 1-1) and Salve (8-5, 2-3) all winable games which could put them up to 5-2 and right back into the mix. 

Colby-Sawyer seemed to have played god awful against Gordon by the sounds of it and the looks of the box score, I would look for them to at least give gordon a 10pt game next time around, Foti can still coach, its just a matter of if he will or not, and playing in wenham and New London is quite different.  CSC is 2-1 at home this season out of 12 games, playing only a 1/3 of your games at home is tuff to have to amazing of a record, and colby-sawyer has been playing some very good out of conference teams. 
Keene State 10-3
Bowdoin 8-3
Brandeis 7-5
Springfield (4-10) however this record is extremely deceitful, springfield is a much better team than 4-10
Trinity 9-4
Middlebury 10-3

so it hasnt exactly been a cakewalk for the chargers.  6 of their final 12 games will be in new london where colby-sawyer typically plays much better and oppositions playing slightly worse.  I can realistically see CSC going 8-4 to close out the season and finish .500.  perhaps even better if they can steal one from EC or Gordon.  St. Clair is averaging 24 points and better than 12 boards a game in New London so far this season so I expect him to carry through with better numbers at home. 

I honestly believe the key to the chargers is within one person, and its not st clair nor is it foti....but pat kenny.   It seems his past 2 years he was that silent scorer that seemed to often make a difference.

Another thing, James Thorpe makes a HUGE difference for Colby-Sawyer, their 2nd leading scorer missed 5 games at the end of the first semester and recovering from Mono takes some time, and hopefully as the season closes out hes back to 100% and is contributing like he did at the start of the season. 

given its a long shot and a lot needs to go just right but Colby-Sawyer shouldnt be counted out just yet.

and no these arent meant are excuses, i look at them as reasons for optimism. 

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


Yeah, that was a big thing I noticed this season: the 3pt shooting seems to be lacking for CSC.  Kenny has at least kept teams honest in the past, however, anyone who's seen the team in action knows, it's not just increased defense that's slowing St Clair down.  CSC just has to play better than they have been, but they will have to win the conference tourney, probably at Endicott to make te post-season.
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john

 now i dont know what to think about the csc-gc game.i did not see it in person but can only read what you people write. some is pro and some is con.. 24\7\365 did you see all the game or did you miss some when you were working at the conssesion stand???

akirk

24\7\365

Apparently you do not read everything posted.  As I said, I am one of the biggest GC fans around at least for the last 6 or 7 years.  By no means am I a CSC fan.  As a matter of fact I can't stand them.  But I do realize that GC has not put a complete game together at all and despite the end result (a win), I am not encouraged by the play of the Scots last night. 

Oh and to point out one more thing, if the score was dwindled to two (and it was two) how can you say that as you said it   "The Saint's 20 points is in now way indicative of the way he played.  As mentioned earlier, the majority of those stats came when the game no longer mattered, and Coach Schauer for GC, was gettn' his younger guys minutes.  The Saint was as much of a factor as the GC Women's Softball team selling concessions out in the lobby."  I wonder if you where actually at the game because Coach Schauer did not put any non-regular players in at all.

Before you try to bash anything said please do your homework first.  It will save you from looking ignorant.

ccc #1 player

Ok, I havent posted in a while but I needed to say a few things.  I went to the gordon csc game last night.  First of all at the beggining of the season, all I was hearing about was this unbeatbale csc teams, with this unanimous league MVP in St. Clair so I go to watch them play last night expecting to see the D3 version on the 1960's celtics with st clair being Russell,  WOW was I wrong.  This team was terribly sloppy and the only reason St. Clair had any of the numbers he had is because he must of took close to 40 shots.  Mid way through the second half he took six shots in a row that barely touched the rim, not even coming close to going in.  Gordon didn't even look that good CSC was just that bad. This team without the hype is not a good baseketball team at all.  Gordon and Ec werent scared of what they have heard that is why both of them won, the only thing CSC have going for them is  the lower end schools get nervous to play this "unbeatable team".

secondly whoever wrote all thos stats on D3 really needs to go get a job and take it easy.  That was the saddest thing I had ever read and I feel that you should devote your time to something a little more intresting, or something more worth while. 

Tomorrow Ec plays now most people wouldnt concider that ne landmaqrk of a game but the real MVP of the league Matthew "the legend" George is 19 points away from scoring his 1000th point.  This is a great accomplishment in college and I wish matt the best of luck tomorrow. 

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


You might want to pay a little more attention to the records or even these boards next time if the shock of CSC's play was too much for you.  We stopped hyping CSC... oh about five seconds after their first game ended.

And as for the stats, well I totally didn't expect there to be that many (usually there are like four CCC highlights), but once I was in, I had to finish... I'm a bit OCD.  Like I said, those stats will go down by the end of the season and make them more manageable to list.

In all the talk about last night's games, I almost forgot to give the rundown for this weekend:

NC @ NEC
EC @ SRU
CC @ AMC
ENC @ WIT
GC @ UNE

CSC's taking the weekend off... well from games anyway... I would wager that they might be doing a little running and defensive drills.
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AJ

John,

I went to the game last night and I would say the game was somewhere betweens akirks version and 24/7/365 version.  St. Clair played good, whenever he got the ball on the post he scored, but he wasn't really dominating on either end of the floor.  CSC as a team played really bad, thats one thing everyone can agree on.  I thought that this was one of the better games I've seen Gordon play all year, they shot well, defended, and rebounded well.  They did have too many turnovers and some questionable decisions in the second half.  All in all it was a good game from Gordon and a horrible one from CSC.

ccc #1 player

I would like to add that CSC has all the talent they need to win a CCC champ and prob the best coach in the league.  The factor that will keep them from accomplishing this is the lack of effort by CSC players.  Every loose ball was tracked down by Gordon, there was a tremendous lack of ball pressure and the ability for Gordon to penetrate the middle and kick to three pointers was much to easy.  Either their scouting reports are poor, their coaching staff is not getting their players prepared well enough or the players are just mental midgets and ignore what their coach is telling them to do for each game!  If CSC could find just 5 players that would play with half the emotion coach foti coaches with then come feb and march they will be in the running.  You may think that all of my other posts have been to harsh...but i speak the truth....i see what i see....i also have been noticing zach ellis has been bulking up in the muscle department and if he continues to hit the gym he will be at the shape of oxten was at the end of last season.  I also have inside info that george believes he will get his 1000th point tomorrow because he has gotton a new haircut and has hit the tanning booth up

roy_williams

i would echo the point that colby sawyer is still alive. while they can kiss the 1 seed goodbye, their two conference losses have been at Gordon and Endicott. these are clearly the best teams in the north, and they still have home games left with each. had they lost at home it would be a bigger deal, but this scenairio presents them with a chance to hold serve at home and split the series. and since the luster of the colby auroa has completely worn off, GC and EC coaches might have to protect themselves from over confident teams going into the rematch. that is a probably a stretch, but you never know.

personally i dont believe the turnaround will come. their are just too many holes. they can't play D and they can't shoot from the outside (or at least stretch the d for the Saint). these aren't ingredients for success, let alone easy areas to fix. last night st. clair had 25-30 touches and i would say the team did look for him better than they have in the past. however, when you get nothing from the outside and no one else even posing a threat offensively, you can't expect a post guy to put up 40. their guard play is horrific. then you have the questionable coaching decisions that have been talked about, and the players basically quitting. you have to wonder if the schedule has backfired as preseason everyone was salivating at the fact CSC's SOS could get them an at large bid, and now it looks like all the losses have defeated the team mentally. they don't believe in themselves.

the memo to the CCC would be to let sleeping dogs lie


Maq Diesel

Anyone have any predictions for this weekend's action?  I have a few.  First the posts on this site will become even more "homerish" if that is even possible, Akirk will watch a completely different game than the rest of us, concession stand sales will hit an all time high with 24/7/365 at the helm, John will become even more bitter (if that is possible),  Matt George will score his 1000th point because he went tanning and got a hair cut and not because he is a great player, and lastly CCC#1 Player (who is an EC player as far as I can tell) will not become the CCC#1 Speller (try using spell checking or taking an English grammar class, if those are indeed offered at EC).

NC over NEC- Nichols has been playing well of late and should continue.

EC over SRU- Will be closer than people might think maybe even 5 points, Matt George will get his 1000th point it's too bad he couldn't do it at the post in front of his own fans.

CC over AMC- Even with CC recent "struggles" they will trounce the Amcats.

WIT over ENC- Shouldn't even be a close one.

GC over UNE- GC shooting stays hot and they get Shnakenberg back which will help a little look for a nice win for the Scots.

Trueball38

Well for what i'm understanding he had a full scholarship to Florida A&M but lost it due to a case he was involved in that the charges got dismissed on his behalf but the school revoked his scholarship.  He's good but the thing is he isn't getting the chance to really show himself.  There's people all over the city of Boston who knows this kid and what he can do even Wynn.]

Trueball38

The last post was an accident how do you modify or delete a post you don't want.  There's no option that I can see

AJ

Gordon 57 - UNE 46

Marstaller had 18, Herr had 15 and 8 for Gordon.  Isaac Stickney had 13 to lead UNE.  John Beebe continues to be a big spark off the bench for Gordon, he had 10 last night and 9 verse CSC the other night.  He doesn't take many shots, but he's been hitting his opportunities.