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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: backboard on January 28, 2010, 10:29:19 PM
Eastern Nazarene 54 - Colby-Sawyer 70
WNEC 79   - Nichols 92
UNE 81 - Regis 80
Salve Regina 56 - Wentworth 86
Endicott 55 - Roger Williams 52
NEC 57 - Gordon 79
Curry 68 - Anna Maria 73

I suppose Anna Maria over Curry is a surprise as well as Nichols over WNEC.  Otherwise, everything else was expected

I think Nichols has played well enough to have wins not be a surprise.
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Saturday Roundup...

Salve Regina 67, NEC 64
Anna Maria 92, ENC 65
Gordon 64, Endicott 55
Wentworth 80, Regis 68
UNE 87, WNEC 79
Roger Williams 81, Colby-Sawyer 75
Curry 78, Nichols 66

Standings through seven games...
Gordon 7-0
UNE 5-2
Wentworth 5-2
Curry 5-2
Colby-Sawyer 4-3
Western New England 4-3
Regis 4-3
Roger Williams 3-4
Endicott 3-4
Anna Maria 3-4
Nichols 2-5
ENC 2-5
Salve Regina 1-6
NEC 1-6
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Very sad news. Mike Crotty Sr. Director of Middlesex Magic AAU basketball program and friend to New England Basketball Coaches Assc. Past away this morning. There is not enough space here to list the countless kids he helped to get into college or just be a part of the game we love. I will miss him and all that he has done to make our sport and community a better place. Our prayers go out to his family. Rest in Peace Mike!!!!

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Regional rankings just released, Gordon is 7th.

Northeast Region In-Region Record Overall Record
1. Williams 17-0 19-1
2. MIT 17-1 18-2
3. Colby 13-1 15-2
4. Middlebury 13-2 17-2
5. Brandeis 14-3 14-3
6. Bridgewater State 12-3 13-5
7. Gordon 14-3 15-3
8. Western Conn. St. 12-4 13-4
9. Mass.-Dartmouth 13-6 13-6
10. Rhode Island College 13-6 13-6
11. Eastern Connecticut State 13-6 13-6

backboard

Those rankings have lost all credibility in my mind

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Quote from: backboard on February 04, 2010, 04:54:06 PM
Those rankings have lost all credibility in my mind

Feel free to explain. It's easy to just say it without support.

Not that I don't agree with you, but let's hear why...
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backboard

Gordon has the advantage of playing in TCCC, therefore the competition they play is weaker.  I enjoy following the teams in this conference just as much as the next guy, but we're fooling ourselves in thinking that we're on the same level as the NESCAC or NEWMAC (not that anybody does hopefully).

When looking at the Gordon schedule, where's their standout win?  Salem State?  Sure that's a quality win, no argument there and I do realize that they played MIT tough and went into OT.  But Gordon has simply benefited from playing in a weaker conference and beating up on those opponents. 

A team like Amherst isn't even ranked on this list.  Not sure if this list depicts the best teams in the region, or just the ones with the best record.  Regardless, I'm glad that TCCC has a representative and I fully expect Gordon to be representing us come tournament time.

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Quote from: backboard on February 04, 2010, 04:54:06 PM
Those rankings have lost all credibility in my mind

It's ok to disagree, we all do, however these rankings can't lack credibility since they are the basis for choosing the teams that get into the tournament.

It's all about in region winning percentage and the SOS number (a combination of opponents' winning percentage and opponents' opponents' winning percentage).

Unless there's a real disparity in scheduling, they almost always go by regional record.  That's what we see here.

I know Gordon hasn't played a great schedule, but it's actually better than Colby's schedule thus far.  Colby will make up for it with the end of their NESCAC season.

The NE region gets a big advantage in these numbers because there are more bad teams with good records to schedule.

In the end it helps the NE get more teams into the tournament.

Amherst isn't in the rankings because they've lost to every decent team they've played this year.  Also, I'm not sure if the RIC game factored into these rankings.  That win will help them.
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Quote from: backboard on February 04, 2010, 07:19:03 PM
Gordon has the advantage of playing in TCCC, therefore the competition they play is weaker.  I enjoy following the teams in this conference just as much as the next guy, but we're fooling ourselves in thinking that we're on the same level as the NESCAC or NEWMAC (not that anybody does hopefully).

When looking at the Gordon schedule, where's their standout win?  Salem State?  Sure that's a quality win, no argument there and I do realize that they played MIT tough and went into OT.  But Gordon has simply benefited from playing in a weaker conference and beating up on those opponents. 

A team like Amherst isn't even ranked on this list.  Not sure if this list depicts the best teams in the region, or just the ones with the best record.  Regardless, I'm glad that TCCC has a representative and I fully expect Gordon to be representing us come tournament time.

I agree but is Salem State and there 6-13 record even a quality win?  I hope their out of conference scheduling improves next year.  Is it better to lose against good teams or win against bad ones?  I guess these reankings along with Hoops Fans explanation answers that question.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: GC Oldtimer on February 05, 2010, 10:02:14 AM
Quote from: backboard on February 04, 2010, 07:19:03 PM
Gordon has the advantage of playing in TCCC, therefore the competition they play is weaker.  I enjoy following the teams in this conference just as much as the next guy, but we're fooling ourselves in thinking that we're on the same level as the NESCAC or NEWMAC (not that anybody does hopefully).

When looking at the Gordon schedule, where's their standout win?  Salem State?  Sure that's a quality win, no argument there and I do realize that they played MIT tough and went into OT.  But Gordon has simply benefited from playing in a weaker conference and beating up on those opponents.  

A team like Amherst isn't even ranked on this list.  Not sure if this list depicts the best teams in the region, or just the ones with the best record.  Regardless, I'm glad that TCCC has a representative and I fully expect Gordon to be representing us come tournament time.

I agree but is Salem State and there 6-13 record even a quality win?  I hope their out of conference scheduling improves next year.  Is it better to lose against good teams or win against bad ones?  I guess these reankings along with Hoops Fans explanation answers that question.

You want to play teams from your region (or those close by) with good records, whether the teams are good or not.  Obviously, it's better to win and to lose.  In the end, winning is the most important thing.  It's tough to deny a team with only one or two losses - no matter who they played.
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CCC Talk

Rest Of The Way Predictions

1. Gordon
2. Curry
3. Wentworth
4. WNEC
5. UNE
6. Colby Sawyer
7. Endicott
8. Nichols
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9. Regis
10. AMC
11. RWU
12. Salve
13. ENC
14. NEC

First Team All League
Mark Mastrullo. Sr. Curry
Aaron Trigg Sr. Gordon
Jon Chaloux Sr. Colby-Sawyer
Dan Royce Jr. Salve
Rich Johnson Sr. WNEC

Second Team All League
Brady Bajema Sr. Gordon
Sam Herrick Jr. Wentworth
Anthony Johnson So. UNE
Chris Paquin Sr. Nichols
Jarrell Jackson Jr. Curry

Honorable Mention:
Jabreche Boyd Sr. Salve
Junior De La Hoz Jr. AMC
Gary Madison So. RWU
Jesse Vega Sr. Regis
Jason Chevrefls CSC Fr.

Player of the Year: Aaron Trigg Gordon
Rookie of the Year: Jason Chevrefils
Coach of the Year: Tod Murphy Gordon
Defensive Player of the Year: Quinten Thompson UNE

All Rookie Team: (not named just for fun)
F- Jason Cheverfls CSC
F- Anthony Click AMC
G- Adam Dombrowski Wentworth
G- Andre Shaw WNEC
G- Max Barbosa ENC

scout

Gordon is no longer undefeated in TCCC play as they drop one to Colby-Sawyer 74-63. Once again, the Chargers prove they are the most inconsistent team in the northeast as they controlled the game from the start.

Gordon is now 17-4, 9-1... but still hold at least a game lead in conference play.
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Bartlet: If the Oscars were like that, I'd watch."
- The West Wing, 'Shibboleth'

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I was going to do a breakdown of the playoff race, but every team is still mathematically in the hunt, so I'll wait another couple days.  Maybe this weekend.
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Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 09, 2010, 10:52:01 PM

I was going to do a breakdown of the playoff race, but every team is still mathematically in the hunt, so I'll wait another couple days.  Maybe this weekend.

Yes and please.

I'm excited to hear more opinion on everything...
"C.J.: They sent me two turkeys. The most photo-friendly of the two gets a Presidential pardon and a full life at a children's zoo. The runner-up gets eaten.
Bartlet: If the Oscars were like that, I'd watch."
- The West Wing, 'Shibboleth'

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

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I have to amend my previous statement.  NEC is mathematically eliminated.  Everyone else is still alive.

Gordon and Curry are the only two safely in right now.  UNE, WNEC, and WIT can clinch a spot with any one victory.
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