MBB: Conference of New England

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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


I'll go back through all the placements once we get the full slate of scores.  It looks to be shaping up with a lot of scenarios.  Saturday should be fun.
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ENC's up 15 with 15 seconds left to play.  I'm going to go ahead and give it to them.
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Curry beats Roger Williams 66-59.

AMC with a big win over WNEC 93-58.


I'm at work on the scenarios for Saturday.  Be with you shortly.
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Schedule for Saturday:

SRU @ GC
WNEC @ CSC
AMC @ RC
RWU @ ENC
NEC @ WIT
EC @ CC
UNE @ NC

Playoff scenarios:

Gordon (11-1) is #1 no matter what.

Wentworth (9-3) and Curry (9-3) are #2 and #3 no matter what.  WIT is #2 with a win or a CC loss.  Curry is #2 with a win and a WIT loss.

WNEC, UNE and EC are all 7-5.  If they all win, a three-way tie for 4th breaks down: #4-UNE, #5-WNEC, #6-EC.  This is also the same order if any two tie at 8-5.

Here's where things get hairy.  We have the possibility for a six-way tie at 7-6 for five playoff spots.  If that happens: #4-CSC, #5-NC, #6-UNE, #7-EC, #8-AMC.  (This is the most confusing and the tiebreakers would be unclear in determining 4th and 5th.  I made a call that makes the most sense; hopefully we won't find ourselves in this scenario).  WNEC would be out in this scenario.

If UNE, NC, EC, and AMC tie at 7-6 we get: (#4-WNEC), #5-EC, #6-NC, #7-UNE, #8-AMC.  CSC would be out in this scenario.

If WNEC, CSC, EC, and AMC tie at 7-6 we get: (#4-UNE), #5-EC, #6-CSC, #7-WNEC, #8-AMC.  NC would be out in this scenario.

If WNEC, UNE, CSC, AMC, and NC tie at 7-6 we get: (#4-EC), #5-CSC, #6-NC, #7-UNE, #8-AMC.  (This is the easiest tiebreaker to figure out.  If we're going to have one, hope it's this one.) WNEC would be out in this scenario.

If WNEC, CSC, and AMC tie at 7-6 we get: (#4-UNE, #5-EC), #6-CSC, #7-AMC, #8-WNEC.

If UNE, NC, and AMC tie at 7-6 we get: (#4-WNEC, #5-EC), #6-NC, #7-UNE, #8-AMC.

If the 7-5 teams (EC, WNEC, and UNE) all win (tiebreakers above) the picture below them looks like this:

An AMC win nets them #7, CSC would be #8.

If NC, CSC, AMC, and RC tie at 6-7 we get: #7-NC, #8-RC.  CSC and AMC would be out in this scenario.

Editted: I forgot one last scenario - an EC win and a four way tie at 7-6 between WNEC, UNE, CSC, and NC for the final four spots.  It pans out: #5-CSC, #6-NC, #7-UNE, #8-WNEC.
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Great job Hoops Fans, appreciate the breakdown

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Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 17, 2010, 10:57:59 PM

Schedule for Saturday:

SRU @ GC
WNEC @ CSC
AMC @ RC
RWU @ ENC
NEC @ WIT
EC @ CC
UNE @ NC

Playoff scenarios:

Gordon (11-1) is #1 no matter what.

Wentworth (9-3) and Curry (9-3) are #2 and #3 no matter what.  WIT is #2 with a win or a CC loss.  Curry is #2 with a win and a WIT loss.

WNEC, UNE and EC are all 7-5.  If they all win, a three-way tie for 4th breaks down: #4-UNE, #5-WNEC, #6-EC.  This is also the same order if any two tie at 8-5.

Here's where things get hairy.  We have the possibility for a six-way tie at 7-6 for five playoff spots.  If that happens: #4-CSC, #5-NC, #6-UNE, #7-EC, #8-AMC.  (This is the most confusing and the tiebreakers would be unclear in determining 4th and 5th.  I made a call that makes the most sense; hopefully we won't find ourselves in this scenario).  WNEC would be out in this scenario.

If UNE, NC, EC, and AMC tie at 7-6 we get: (#4-WNEC), #5-EC, #6-NC, #7-UNE, #8-AMC.  CSC would be out in this scenario.

If WNEC, CSC, EC, and AMC tie at 7-6 we get: (#4-UNE), #5-EC, #6-CSC, #7-WNEC, #8-AMC.  NC would be out in this scenario.

If WNEC, UNE, CSC, AMC, and NC tie at 7-6 we get: (#4-EC), #5-CSC, #6-NC, #7-UNE, #8-AMC.  (This is the easiest tiebreaker to figure out.  If we're going to have one, hope it's this one.) WNEC would be out in this scenario.

If WNEC, CSC, and AMC tie at 7-6 we get: (#4-UNE, #5-EC), #6-CSC, #7-AMC, #8-WNEC.

If UNE, NC, and AMC tie at 7-6 we get: (#4-WNEC, #5-EC), #6-NC, #7-UNE, #8-AMC.

If the 7-5 teams (EC, WNEC, and UNE) all win (tiebreakers above) the picture below them looks like this:

An AMC win nets them #7, CSC would be #8.

If NC, CSC, AMC, and RC tie at 6-7 we get: #7-NC, #8-RC.  CSC and AMC would be out in this scenario.

You are unprecedented. +k for you, sir.

With that said, what do you expect to happen? i.e. what's your predicted finish for everyone? (You're guaranteed at least one correct spot  ;) )
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I know you weren't asking me, but here's my take . . .

#1 Gordon - They should handle Salve no problem.  Gordon looks solid all around and will be extremely tough to beat.  Now is the time for Aaron Trigg to rise to the great names of TCCC. (No disrespect to Brady Bajema either)

#2 Wentworth - I expect them to handle NEC on their senior night.  This team can burn you in so many areas, but we're never sure which area that will be.  They'll be tough to beat as well; I expect at least a second round appearance from these guys.

# 3 Curry - Endicott is their final game.  Guard dominant team, but with those guards, can't blame them.  For all the criticism we received in the past about not giving Marstrullo his credit, he had a great year and has to carry this team in the playoffs.  I still wouldn't be surprised to see them get knocked off in the first round but they could get hot and be in the championship game.

# 4 UNE - They know the value of home-court advantage and should beat Nichols on the road.  They've shown some inconsistency this season but are still very dangerous.  I predict a potential GC-UNE re-match.

# 5 WNEC

# 6 EC

# 7 Colby-Sawyer

# 8 Anna Maria


No point in me talking about teams I don't know a whole lot about.  EC has great size and good veteran leadership, but that's been there all year and they're still not that good.  Colby-Sawyer is the model of inconsistency, so who knows?  Anna Maria still has a tough game vs. Regis, but I'm giving them the benefit of doubt.

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Quote from: backboard on February 17, 2010, 11:32:26 PM
I know you weren't asking me, but here's my take . . .

#1 Gordon - They should handle Salve no problem.  Gordon looks solid all around and will be extremely tough to beat.  Now is the time for Aaron Trigg to rise to the great names of TCCC. (No disrespect to Brady Bajema either)

#2 Wentworth - I expect them to handle NEC on their senior night.  This team can burn you in so many areas, but we're never sure which area that will be.  They'll be tough to beat as well; I expect at least a second round appearance from these guys.

# 3 Curry - Endicott is their final game.  Guard dominant team, but with those guards, can't blame them.  For all the criticism we received in the past about not giving Marstrullo his credit, he had a great year and has to carry this team in the playoffs.  I still wouldn't be surprised to see them get knocked off in the first round but they could get hot and be in the championship game.

# 4 UNE - They know the value of home-court advantage and should beat Nichols on the road.  They've shown some inconsistency this season but are still very dangerous.  I predict a potential GC-UNE re-match.

# 5 WNEC

# 6 EC

# 7 Colby-Sawyer

# 8 Anna Maria


No point in me talking about teams I don't know a whole lot about.  EC has great size and good veteran leadership, but that's been there all year and they're still not that good.  Colby-Sawyer is the model of inconsistency, so who knows?  Anna Maria still has a tough game vs. Regis, but I'm giving them the benefit of doubt.

Hey, it's alright. I appreciate discussion and I'll give ya +k for your efforts as well! (I'm feeling generous tonight)

I'm planning on putting together my stats posts for each team like I did last year. I just have to start pulling everything together and formatting it so the tables look nice and aesthetic.
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I see:

1-GC
2-WIT
3-CC
4-

This is where it gets tough.  I think Endicott wins and WNEC loses, but the UNE-NC game is hard to call.  It's at Nichols and both teams come in playing well.  Nichols only lost one home game all year - I have to go with Nichols.

That leaves either:

4-EC
5-CSC
6-NC
7-UNE
8-AMC

or, if AMC loses, it leaves the one scenario I forgot on my list:  A four way tie between WNEC, UNE, CSC, and NC for the final four spots.  It pans out:

5-CSC
6-NC
7-UNE
8-WNEC

It all comes down to AMC-Regis for me.  If AMC wins, they are guaranteed a spot somewhere.  If Regis wins, they need help.  I think AMC is the more consistent team and playing better right now, but Regis, at home, in a must-win is tough to pick against.
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Bill Gorman

Wow.  Great job Hoops.  I'd throw you +1, but I don't see that option.
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Quote from: Bill Gorman on February 18, 2010, 08:25:56 PM
Wow.  Great job Hoops.  I'd throw you +1, but I don't see that option.

That's something you achieve with 200 posts I believe

Bill Gorman

Quote from: backboard on February 18, 2010, 10:33:28 PM
Quote from: Bill Gorman on February 18, 2010, 08:25:56 PM
Wow.  Great job Hoops.  I'd throw you +1, but I don't see that option.

That's something you achieve with 200 posts I believe
I have a long way to go...
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Wentworth Institute of Technology

whiteplainshoops

Good Morning All -- First time poster, long time reader.  I know it is playoff time in the CCC but I had a question regarding one of the bottom feeders, New England College.  I am an alum and a former player and I can not figure out for the life of me how a program is allowed to be so bad for so long.  No disrespect to the CCC but its not exactly a power conference in d3.  Why is is that a school in this conference can be the worst year to year.