MBB: Conference of New England

[WITball]

Didnt this whole "Dempsey for POY" come about last year too? honestly hes a solid player but hes not great.  im not trying to knock the kid because he is the best player gordon has but there is no way he will be POY...maybe....MAYBE first team, my bet is second team.

Also saying top three in the league!? I think we all know how quickly things can change when league play comes about, every team from UNE-Salve could be in the top three...lofty predictions from you gordonhoops

[high flyer 21]

gordonhoops123, why the username change from tcccfan2010 ?

[Gordonhoops123]

My computer crashed with all my passwords etc, so I just started a new account. And yes Dempsey is POY material. And why does it seem ENC always picks people up after Christmas break?

[high flyer 21]

Dempsey did just get voted the Player of the Week.  Don't let that fool you, though.  Aaron Trigg got it thrice his junior year while Todd Doyle only got it once, but it was Doyle who won POY that year.  Dempsey's numbers may lead to multiple Player of the Week nominations, but in no way does that gaurantee him getting POY.

[Chantastic]

The point is that Dempsey is a candidate.  There are times when he could stand to play with more consistent intensity.  Regardless, he is the most skilled forward in the conference and it isn't close.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

My computer crashed with all my passwords etc, so I just started a new account. And yes Dempsey is POY material. And why does it seem ENC always picks people up after Christmas break?

I think one is grades, but the other is a guy who only has one semester of eligibility left.  It also gives them time to get Ezeigbo healthier.

I think the second semester thing goes in waves.  It used to be Curry bringing in new guys after Christmas.  Endicott had a few years where they were doing it.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

WNEC gets trounced by Westfield 48-71.  Shaw had only 14 and they couldn't buy a three.

Nichols falls just short at Clark 56-58.  Not a bad result, but you hate to lose the close ones.  What's worse, they gave away a 33-12 lead.  Sheehan is having a sophomore slump, shooting poorly and managing only 11 points.  We'll have to get some on site scouting to find out whether he's getting guarded for intensely or just trying too hard.

WIT loses to Conn Coll 43-53 in what must have been a snoozer.  CC went 15-16 from the line as opposed to WIT's 1-2.  Wentworth needs to be more aggressive.  Therriault had 10, but the team was terrible from deep as well.

Salve went into the cave at RIC (right on the cusp of the top 25) and did alright, losing 55-69.  I would have hoped it would have been closer, but RIC's home gym advantage and superior talent won out.  Birrell had 14 and SRU got very little from the bench.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

No games Wednesday, but three Thursday night:

Gordon hosts Wheelock
Curry hosts UMASS-D
RWU hosts Coast Guard

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Gordon pulls out another win, 67-53 over Wheelock.  Dempsey went for 15 and 11; Miersma comes on strong with 14 and 12.  Luke Hamilton hit five threes for 18 points.  They even got a chance to give the end of the bench a few minutes.  They might be rounding into respectable form after all - although it seems Miersma might end up being the best player on the team this year, not Dempsey.

Curry loses at home to UMASS-D 56-66.  Too lazy to look up a box score.  This seems about right.  The CCC is perenially full of underachievers; it seems this year is no different.  This is yet another in a long line of games our teams are expected to lose, but with a slight glimmer of hope that they could pull it out.  We almost never do.  Sometimes it pays to be predictable.

Roger Williams took out Coast Guard 76-74.  Flannagan had 17, but Kramer's nemesis Grossbard missed only one shot in scoring 24 off the bench.  Not a lot of depth here, but they know how to play.  Based on the numbers, though, if CGA had gone inside more instead of settling for threes, it would have been a different outcome.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

No games today, but Saturday has a few, the last muti-game day until almost New Year's.

EC hosts Clark
SRU hosts Connecticut College
RWU hosts Wheaton
WNEC is headed to Berkeley College (NY)

[Chantastic]

I don't know that the conference is full of underachievers - it just isn't very good.  I only see four teams that could be decent this year - Endicott, Gordon, RWU, and Salve.

I've only watched TCCC action for the last five years.  During that time, there hasn't been anyone with size, talent, and potential that even resembles Hans Miersma.  He is starting to put up double-doubles every night and he has played only six college games and is getting less than 30 minutes a night.   

[uconn05]

Maybe. Or, he may not even be the best freshman big man in town. Makris has been playing very well, also. Either way, to say that no else's "size, talent, and potential" resemble his is nonsense. In the last five years TCCC has seen some very good players - some that were able to do more than put up double-doubles on Wheelock and watered-down WNEC.

[CCC Talk]

Chantastic,

Couple of things, there is no way on planet earth Gordon will finish in the top 4, no chance. guards are not good bigs are ok.



As for your absurd statement that Miresma has "the most size talent and potential of any ccc player in the last 5 years" you clearly have not been paying much attrention to the league.

The following names come to mind immeadiatly:  Jon Bowers, Toby Britain, Andrew St Clair, Jon Chaloux, Matt Abbott, Sam Herrick, Andre Makris, Sam Evans, Joey Burgos, Chima Ezigbo, hell even John Marstaller from your beloved Gordon.

The Miersma kid is big and pretty decent, however he is remarkably soft and comes from a HS program that has produced a long line of remarkably soft players. Not only will Gordon not finish in the top 4 in the league this year. They will NEVER win a championship in Hans' 4 years. You can write that in pen.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Saturday results:

EC goes down to Clark, 50-63.  Poor shooting and rebounding from EC.

Salve falls just short against Connecticut College 54-55.  This is what I mean by underachieving.  The CCC seems to lose a lot of close games to non-con opponents.  We should be winning some of these.

And Roger Williams, did, taking out Wheaton 70-66 in OT.  And they did it without Flanagan.  Impressive.  Grossbard was hot again, leading the team with 18 off the bench.

WNEC took out Berkeley (NY) 68-60.

[Chantastic]

Chantastic,

Couple of things, there is no way on planet earth Gordon will finish in the top 4, no chance. guards are not good bigs are ok.



As for your absurd statement that Miresma has "the most size talent and potential of any ccc player in the last 5 years" you clearly have not been paying much attrention to the league.

The following names come to mind immeadiatly:  Jon Bowers, Toby Britain, Andrew St Clair, Jon Chaloux, Matt Abbott, Sam Herrick, Andre Makris, Sam Evans, Joey Burgos, Chima Ezigbo, hell even John Marstaller from your beloved Gordon.

The Miersma kid is big and pretty decent, however he is remarkably soft and comes from a HS program that has produced a long line of remarkably soft players. Not only will Gordon not finish in the top 4 in the league this year. They will NEVER win a championship in Hans' 4 years. You can write that in pen.

Miersma will need to toughen up.  I'll be interested to see Makris & Miersma go head to head in conference play.

Chaloux, Marstaller, Abbott, etc. were all excellent, but those guys were all about 6'5" and weren't real post players.  St. Clair ('06) was before my time. 

Herrick was an immense physical force but he played anchored to the floor and when he transferred in you never expected him to put up more than the consistent 15 and 10.

Miersma is a true 6'9" with the ability to run the floor and hit the mid-range jump shot.  He will need to get stronger and tougher but he has the potential to one day dominate in a league that's generally been guard heavy.

As for Gordon, I didn't attend and have no loyalty to the school.  I just don't think the league is very strong this year.  They have Dempsey and Miersma and will outrebound almost everyone.  That will help make up for their negative turnover ratio.