MBB: Conference of New England

[24/7/365]

Hey John, kudos on being the first person to use a smiley face.  And I think we all understand what Roy was trying to say.  St. Clair, a preseason All-American, should be smart enough to not pick up 5 fouls so quickly.  Whenever someone averages one foul every three minutes, that is never a good thing.  I don't doubt that St. Clair will get back on track for the rest of the year, and be the player we all know him to be, and until then let's try to be a little less sarcastic...  ! 

[john]

 i wasn't trying to be sarcastic but to prove a point that anyone can have a bad game. i was there and the second and fourth fouls were poor calls. st.clair did come back in the second game and showed what he can do. anyways they were non ccc games and thats what i am waiting for to see how good they really are.bench is good and i can see some new players stepping up when needed.

[primetimeplayer]

hey whats up everyone...new to the post......anyways...the conference just dont have any contenders anymore,coem on we cant even get a top 25 votes,we have teams like amc and enc that will only compete with each other...i mean amc is favored not to win 1 game,thats embarassing to the ccc, when we will be back on the map?

[broke_ya_ankles]

the ccc had climbed onto the scene some with CSC and EC both receiving top 25 votes in years past, and i expect CSC to wind up with some as the year goes on, more likely earlier than later.  EC even hosted an NCAA tourney game a couple years ago (vs Brandeis?) and last year i forget who where they played I believe it was @ Western Conn.  anyways this is a down year overall but CC, CSC, EC, and even Gordon (prolly a year away) are all respectable teams that can play with most NE teams (see EC vs #5 Amherst) so dont knock the CCC too much...

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

That's a bit ignorant to say the CCC is down.  In fact its totally the opposite of the truth.  I think in terms of ENC, AMC and others, its more a case of the rest of the conference passing them by.  Granted, ENC is down from their glory years of the mid to late 90's, but they were contenders as recently as four years ago.  Teams like EC, GC, RWU, and CSC have just totally picked up their level of play and recruiting and brought the CCC into the forefront.

It's another reason why I see a defection in the near future.  I would not be surpised if six or seven of the top teams took off and formed their own league.  However, I don't think its because the CCC is keeping them down, but because they are moving beyond the capabilities of some of the smaller and less financially secure schools.

[24/7/365]

Unfortunately I'm going to have to agree with my friend Hoopsfan on this subject.  The CCC as of the last three years or so has been as competitive as it's ever been, in both the South and North divisions.  In every league, D1, D2 or D3 you have a select group of teams that are incapable of hanging with the upper tear teams, ENC, AMC as well as a few others are no exception.

On the contrary, the CCC has the ability to begin gaining nation wide recognition for their play.  With the new format of the NCAA tournament, the CCC has a legitimate chance of putting two teams into the tournament this year.  With that being said, that is a long shot, but with the teams the CCC is fielding this year, almost anything is possible.

On a side note, GC plays Johnson State tonight.  If GC can withstand the horrible multi-hour drive to Canada, they should be 3-0 on the season.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

It's only four hours to JSC, not too much longer than Salve has to go to get to CSC, although Johnson, VT is closer to Canada than it is to either NY or NH... pretty odd.

[roy_williams]

hey john

i wasn't trying to say St. Clair is a bad player. He is one of, if not the, best player in the conference no doubt. Heck, he was third team preseason All-American.  I'm just saying, with all that considerd, i found it odd he would foul out so quickly (15 minutes). Usually a coach will protect him by leaving him on the bench after 3 fouls for the rest of the first half, or trust that a senior will know how to not foul out so quickly. Maybe Foti was testing him since it was a non-conference game, to see how he responds in that situation? I wasn't sure if it was a show of undiscipline or jsut a bad night. I just found it curious, because it was so quick.

And for the record, yes I think if Shaq or Duncan fouled out in 15 minutes more than a few people would be up in arms. It was just shocking because a player of St. Clair's caliber fouled out so quickly, not neccesairly that he fouled out. 

i do feel bad for gordon as not one kid across the nation is welcoming a cold, rainy trip to johnston state, when every other kid is on their way home for thanksgiving feasts.

[cant dog]

Gordon College over Johnson State 80 - 48

[primetimeplayer]

ok..first off i was not trying to be ignorant,i want to see the ccc improve,sorry if I came off that way...but, ccc is at the bottome of the pile in the northeast,nvm the country,yes maybe 1 or 2 teams satnd out,but i dont see any of them getting national attention or national recognition...i know you guys are big fans of the ccc,but lets keep it realistic fellas...ccc is not going in the right direction

[d3bballinboston]

yikes.. newbury first beats Roger williams but then newbury loses to Anna Maria College last night at home by 6

[24/7/365]

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How can you even say this?  There is no basis for this statement.  This lowly CCC is carrying a preseason All-American.  This lowly CCC has the ability to put two teams into the tournament.  This lowly CCC is most likely going to form a new conference because teams are becoming too good for the present one.  I understand that you are fairly new to the CCC board, so we'll give you a reprieve for your obviously unfounded comments.  However, you should probley do your research before you speak, as well as back up your arguments with facts and not just opinions

[Clark Basketball]

Ahhhh....I wouldnt bad mouth Anna Maria too soon.  They have some young talent and they play hard.  I am not saying they will win the league but they will win some games and they certainly do not deserve to be badmouthed this early in the season.  CCC is very mediocre....deal with it.

[d3bballinboston]

CCC won't be making a new conference anytime soon.  Most because the Management Council of the NCAA has already shot down that proposal.  So unless a CCC team applies to a new league and gets in, they are all stuck in here for the long haul.  CCC did get better though as WNEC is going to be in i belive for Fall of 07. Might even be Fall of 06, not 100% sure when they will be starting CCC Play though.

[AJ]

From what I've heard so far from coaches and AD's in the CCC is that WNEC is definitly in for the fall of 07'.  With the addition of WNEC 6 schools (Gordon, RWU, Endicott, CSC, Salve, WIT) will split off to start a new conference.  I'm not definite on what schools stay with the top 6 (NEC maybe, good at lax and other conference sports), but the remaining teams look like they'll either be heading to the GNAC or will try to start a new conference with some other schools.  This is what the conference wants to do, but there are a lot of hurdles to get over to accomplish this.  Gaining WNEC is a step in the right direction though.