MBB: Conference of New England

[goenc]

Well guys its been a while. Chewning is back in the house. I missed you all. Not to get to personal but i just moved to NC and am living in the heart of the ACC. Big step up from the CCC. Anyway it looks like it is starting to get heated up in here already, which is nice to see. Be careful messing around with John. Most fathers dont like it when people bash their sons, I'm sure that you all can understand.

First and formost I would like to say "Hi" to some of my veterans in here.
CCC Fan
HoopsFan
John
RoyWilliams
Its nice to still see you guys in here.

As all of you know, i mostly will be talking about ENC and How we should all have great expectations for them in the future (us over here at ENC have been saying that for about the past 4 years, ever since we lost in the CCC champ or even sooner when we almost upset Endicott) Anyway, again...its doesnt look to good for us. We lost to Lesley in their 1st game ever, thats embarresing. And the Conn College wasnt even really a game from what I heard. "hey but we all go to college to get an education right?" Wrong, basketball in the CCC can be life at times.

My prediction this year is that again Colby will be in the finals and win it all. St. Clair will dominate. Hey John, Whats St.Clair planning on doing after colege? They got an awesome squad again and anyone who comes close to beating them should be satisified. Also, I have to give my credit to Curry College. Wynn has really bee outstanding for them. He keeps bring in the type of kids that will be great for his style of coaching and his program.

Who are some of the surprise players in the conference this year? Are their any?

Hope everyone enyoys the Thanksgiving Holiday and has safe travels. Coming from a true Naz Grad, be thankful for Gods grace.

[CCC Fan]

Hey Chewning good to see you back on the board.

[john]

   chewning...good to hear from you.will miss your insight on some of the games.i will always remember talking to you at csc and hope the future will be plesant for you and family.anyways as to what andrew has in store...he doesnt say much and wont until bb season is over,and i am the last to know as he likes to keep me guessing.anyways keep posting.........john

[goenc]

Well it looks like ENC is in some real trouble. They lost 2 games over the break and in those 2 games nobody scored more than 12 pooints, nobody has more than 6 rebounds and nobody played more than 27 minutes. It seems that again they are lacking any on court leadership and a person to count on to score. Over the last 3 years or so, I think it always took ENC at elast 6 games before they grabbed their first win. It looks like that wont change.

Coach Zink, seems to still be a bit confused with his lineup. He has had just about a different starting lineup every game. The only good thing about this team is that they have no seniors and potentially can bring everyone back next year. In that sense, that makes this entire year just practice.

I hope that everyone enjoyed their holiday and John, tell Andrew that said Hi. I had a couple of conversations with him over the 2 years that we played against eachother and he seemed like a great kid.

[24/7/365]

Are you sure you're going to want to bring back a team like this next year?  Seems to me like some much needed recruiting is in order.  Because the way this team is shaping up, they are nothing more than target practice for everyone else in the CCC and beyond.

[goenc]

Can't argue with that.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

ENC's problem still seems to be the rigidity of Zink's system.  From everything I've heard he's got good players sitting on the bench because they don't fit the system.  That may be fine if you have a strong program with a history of success, but this system has yet to work and won't so long as your recruits see no advantage to playing.  I know Zink is a great guy and a very good coach, but he needs to be more flexible.  ENC is not going to be competitive for many years, they need to work on building a program.  I thought Zink was headed that way, but this system is letting him down.

I assume that with the addition of WNEC, we'll see some shifting of teams out of the CCC to other conferences.  The GNAC looks to be restructuring and you could see the cellar-dwellers of the CCC in the GNAC in the near future.  The top teams want to distance themselves from the likes of Curry, Nichols, AMC, ENC and UNE.

An 8 team conference of WNEC, NEC, GC, CSC, RWU, SRU and WIT looks a lot better both atheltically and academically.  Certainly the teams in the CCC are moving in opposite directions and this change was inevitable.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Tonight's games:

NEC @ Plymouth
ENC @ Mt Ida
WIT @ Becker
CC hosts Springfield
CSC vs Keene at NHIT
RWU hosts Framingham
SRU @ Wheaton (MA)
AMC @ Elms

EC is at Bates tomorrow night

[goenc]

I agree with your thoughs of Zink's system. He likes to talk a lot about transition and pushing the ball but at the same time, his players dont seem to have the freedom to that. Hes like to have full control of his players and the game. By doing so, he has limited some of the players. If you watch Wynn, he lets his kids play. They are disaplined players and know what they are allowed to do and what they arent. With Zink, there seems to be a sense that the players are holding something back. Players play their best when they are comfortable and not afraid to make mistakes. When playing for Zink, sometimes you feel like your on eggshells. Bad shot or turnover you can be pulled.

I agree that he is a great man and that one day he will be a great coach. He defentially has the leadership skills and desire to be great. I enjoyed playing for him most of the time, but just like any player/coach relationship you have your moments.

It seems like it's been a pretty long rebuilding stretch for ENC. They better get things rollin soon and start to get competitive.

[24/7/365]

Tonight should shed some light on a few topics of discussion.  The first being CSC vs. Keene.  This game seems to be big for everyone in the CCC because it allows them to see how good CSC really is.  If CSC can put up a W tonight, I wouldn't be surprised if a few coaches around the league get a chill down their spine.

The next being RWU.  When their big man went down with an injury a few weeks ago, he apparently took the team moral with him from what I heard.  He was a good team player, and everyone seemed to enjoy his locker room presence.  This game, like CSC's game, will be a good indication of where they land in the CCC, especially after losing their big guy.

GC takes on MIT Thursday.  That has the makings of a high scoring game.  MIT's D'Auria is averaging 22 ppg this year.  The next close player on MIT is averaging 9.  If GC doesn't put the clamps down early on D'Auria it could be another frusterating defeat at the hands of the Engineers.  GC needs to put the scoring burden on the role players if they want to remain undefeated going into their first conference game against Salve this Saturday.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

CSC has gotten the better of KSC the last few years, I don't think a close win will tell us anything we don't know already, but a CSC win by 20 points would definately put the fear of God into people and surely make Amhearst glad they took the Chargers off the sched this season.

[broke_ya_ankles]

Keene beats CSC in a great game tonite 81-80 with Dave Sontag of Keene hitting a turn around 30 footer with .7 seconds left to win the game.....wow!

bray had 2 FT's with 8 seconds left and bricked the front end and made the 2nd....

missed FT's haunt teams........

[CCC Fan]

Josh Carter led CSC with 19.  St. Clair had 12 pts and 11 boards.  Next up for CSC is Bowdoin.   

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Spanos missed the front end of his 1 and 1 just before Bray's shots.  CSC has had some FT trouble in the past, maybe this is the evidence Foti needs to get through to the guys.  Great game though.  I figure these two teams are both top five or six in the region.  CSC still played poor defense.  I'm not sure where this is coming from; with essentially the same team as last year, you would expect a continuation of the good D.  Also Pat Kenny couldn't hit the broadside of a barn last night, which certainly contributed to the loss.  I guess we have to call KSC the better team because of the result, but I think CSC still has more to work with, if they can get it together.  CSC was also outrebounded, another rarity.

Impressive win by Salve over Wheaton 68-67.  Wheaton might not be that good this year, but I certainly didn't think SRU would take this one.  Grendal dominated with 20 and 14.  Steve Walsh had 17 and 7, including the winning bucket.  Woodworth had 13 and Coute only managed 6. SRU hit the boards hard 40-26... big factor.

Becker beat WIT 68-67.  Not good form for Wentworth.  Frankie Hall and PB&J both had 15.  I can't find a box score, so not much else to be told yet.

Elms over AMC 100-62.  Ouch.  Freshment Loussaint went 15 and 8 for AMC. DiTullio, another first year, went for 12.  Pocaro did squat and O'Malley didn't play; I'm wondering if he's even on the team this year... maybe an injury?  They just got totally rocked 50-18 at halftime and Elms played their bench the whole second half.  This could have been really ugly. Elms didn't even shoot well (8-30 from three).

RWU goes down to Framingham 59-62.  Their season is in free-fall for Roger Williams; they need to do something quickly.  RWU had a 14 point lead with 15 minutes to go.  They also committed 27 turnovers.  Cormier went 11 and 10, Wooley had 16 and Parrish had 13.  Turnovers killed them, but I'm not sure this game should have been so close to begin with.

58-76, ENC loses to Mt Ida.  ENC is, as in recent years, having trouble scoring in the rigid system.  ENC was actually leading early in the second half, but couldn't hold things together, giving Mt Ida their first win.  Freshmen Ricardo Jean-Noel (he's from Quebec; that's always fun) had 21 points, good signs for the future; this kid appears to be for real.  Corey had 11, transfer Seaberg had 10 and Jasmin pulled down 12 rebounds.  Duda went for 10 and 14.

Curry went down to Springfield 55-67. I wonder how this would have gone with a full CC squad.  Bartelle went for 22 and 7, Mohrin had 18 and Prescod went for 9 and 6; no one else did anything.  Springfield shot 40% to CC's 30 and outrebounded them 45-34.  Lamb was obviously missing from the middle as CC's big stiff got shut down completely once again.

NEC loses, predictably, to Plymouth State 47-73.  No box score.

[primetimeplayer]

Some good games last nite...a little surprised tough about the NEC losing big and AMC losing HUGE....i heard NEC has a dominant center Kinglsye Oneychi?..anyone have more info on that?...also..in the AMC box score half the players on it were not on the roster, vice versa..and im positive porcaro is the best player on the team, terrible stats though, looking for adam o'malley, and a big factor Quincy Nunnaly, what happened to him? also a solid player nick cappello is missing...is AMC starting from scrath with all these new players...anyone have info on these two teams?  thanks