MBB: Conference of New England

[dsd bag]

Hey everyone, new member to d3hoops. just wanted to throw in my opinions on the EC-GC game this evening. i was at the game and saw the defending CCC champs represent well. they brought good energy with help from their big crowd. gordon also had a big crowd so the gym was split pretty well.  endicott had good performances from nemanja, ellis, and corbett. nemanja scored most of his points at the end but had a solid all around game with 8 boards and 5 assists. corbett was huge off the bench with 12 points in 12 minutes. george was ok, but had some questionable foul calls go against him. as for gordon, they didnt get what they needed or anything out of herr or their entire bench. the big guys for gordon played solid, marstaller had only nine points but had 12 boards and 5 blocks. if a few of herr's 3's went down this would have been a different game, however endicott played good pressure DEFENSE. looking forward to the second game in january, hopefully we see a better game out of GC.

[ccc #1 player]

can u stop giving excuses to this overhyped gordon team who isn't very talented.  I went to the game last night and they were strait out-played.  You talk about gordon not having an offense it was because of the extreme intensity that ec braught on defense. you guys only look athe offensive aspect on the game when you analyze how george mani ellis and everyone else played but these kids played a hell of a defensive game not letting them get comfortable in their offense the whole game.  Ec used a lot of their bench which is going to help them throughout the year with a few freshman stepping up and corbet doin what he does best shootin three.  This team is top in the confrence so after they beat cs by about 15 like they usually do is that when the two time champs might get some respect.

[24/7/365]

 Kudos are in order for EC and their ability to get up for the big games of the season.  EC won every aspect of the game last night from intensity to coaching.  The only thing GC can hold as a positive in this game is the GC faithful dwarfed EC's, and the EC cheerleaders dropped one of their own on an aerial attempt.  Other than that, I'm not too sure GC has anything to be proud of after this game.

EC's bench was completely under hyped coming into this game.  After watching them play for 10 minutes, anyone could tell they were the real deal.  While EC may be lacking in the leadership department, they are just as strong and as a much a threat to win the CCC as they were with Oxton at the helm.  It goes with out saying that defense was the key factor in EC up ending Gordon.  They got GC out of their comfort zone quickly, which in return forced GC to take ill advised shots and errant passes.  GC never capitalized on EC's switching of screens; rather they allowed EC to get back in position and halt whatever offensive momentum GC was trying to muster up.

Luckily enough for GC the season is still in its infancy, and they have an amazing ability to bounce back from crushing defeats like last night.  They have an out of conference game against North Shore heavy-weight Salem State on Saturday; a game GC is not supposed to win.  With that being the case, Salem is playing sub par this year and is vulnerable every game.  A GC win would be appeasing to the team as well as the fans and followers of the Scots.  It may also soften the blow that EC delivered and give the Scots some momentum going into Christmas Break. 

[freedom1]

Good Afternoon,
While I do enjoy reading the opinions that are posted by you gentlemen, I would like to ask why all we speak about is EC, GC, and CSC? I know they are the top of the CCC (as of now) but you guys are dragging this topic into the ground. I am a player on a team in the CCC (and we are doing pretty well) and eventhough I will hold no grudge on you guys showing no respect to our team, since we have to earn that with wins, most of you guys are not even at these games.

I tell you now:
EC, GC, or CSC will lose to a team you do not think it should lose to.

[Maq Diesel]

Freedom1, the posting up section is a forum where parents, student and fans can post, NOT current players.  In answer to your question about why EC, GC and CSC are the only teams we talk about, the people posting have some tie to those schools (fans, students, alumni...).  If fans from your school what ever it may be want to post I think the whole crew would welcome them with open arms.  I personally don't post about teams that I don't know about, other than prediction.  I would love to get some perspective and game info from fans of the other CCC istututions, it would make this thread better.  So tell your parents, tell your friends just tell someone to post up.

[24/7/365]

Don't Post-Up on the CCC board if you Post-Up in a CCC game!!!

[AJ]

Not to beat the EC/GC topic into the ground but the big thing that stood out to me from the game was Gordon's low post presence.  There was none.  Gordon had 4 guys on the perimeter the entire time on offense.  Marstaller touched the ball once or twice in the post and Schnackenberg was catching the ball about 10-12 feet from the hoop everytime.  Gordon got outrebounded 42-24.  That was the big difference in this game.  I think if Gordon can keep Marstaller and Schnack on the blocks next time it will open up space for their shooters as well as allow both big men to contribute much more to the offense.

EC looked good in all aspects of their game but I think the score really reflects more on how bad GC actually played then on how good EC is.  Good news for Gordon fans is that I don't think the team can play much worse then it did last night.  The only way to go is up.

[Pat Coleman]

D3hoops.com/D3football.com does not have a policy that prohibits current student-athletes from posting. Many coaches do, and that is their right.

Obviously prudence suggests current players should not post, but just to clarify, that is not a site rule and we would not enforce it.

[akirk]

freedom1

If you are going to post up and tell us that you play on a ccc team, then why don't you tell us that you play for Wentworth.  By the way, I don't think Wentworth has a chance in the north.  GC, EC, and CSC are the clear favorites in the north.  Wentworth has done a good job of closing the gap but they are still behind.  I will not be shocked if they win one or two of the 6 games.  Any given night any team (except ENC and AM) can pull out a win.

[freedom1]

I understand the concept of not having current players post, but as the rule has been stated it is not prohibited. As for the person calling out my school, if I wanted to let everyone know that I play for a particular school than I would have acknowledge that fact. My opinion was very general and the fact that most of you that post won't show your face but will talk a whole lot a trash, is an indication of the heart most of you lack, (with exception of those who are not in the immediate area).

As for b-ball, I understand that the teams spoken of are from those with knowledge of these schools but for a couple of years now I have witnessed the constant bashing of these so called lesser schools and you cats can't even come check a game or two out, I thought that was called being biased.

[broke_ya_ankles]

you didnt need to say u play for WIT we can tell, and the reason you arent getting talked about is because u havent beaten anybody, and on top of that you lost to becker (2-5) and lyndon state (whose 5-1 record isnt that impressive considering 1/2 there games are against Community college teams) 

look at WIT's wins
UMPI-                  0-7
Mt. Ida-               1-7
Daniel Webster-  0-6
UNE-                    1-4
NEC-                    3-2  (an unimpressive 3-2 themselves)

so look at that the teams WIT has beaten have a combined 5-26 record

That's Why

[AJ]

Freedom1,

Two things, most of the people that post acknowledge what school they are supporting and those in the immediate area do usually show up too games and "show their faces".  Just ask gsmizzle who acknowledged us within the first 2 minutes of getting into the game at Endicott (and he played well, which sucked cause we were gonna get on his case all game if he started messing up). 

Secondly, most of us catch one or two games a year of lower CCC teams when they play the team we support.  Like it was mentioned early, if you want Wentworth to get some posts on this board get your fans to start showing support.  But don't hold it against the posters for supporting their own teams, most of our posts are in favor of one team or another but they are still pretty accurate posts.

[24/7/365]

Jesse Anderson
546 Brockton Ave.
Lincoln, Nebraska
cell: 218-749-0023

Don't tell me I hide behind my pseudo-name.  I take full responsibility for every post I make.  WIT is never going to be a CCC upper tear team.  Yes, you will beat EC, GC and maybe CSC from time to time, but you will never, EVER, enjoy the taste of Championship victory, for the sheer fact that you lack depth after your top 3 players.  I do give you credit in that your recruitment has seen improvement the last few years, but that is where the credit stops.  The respect, you so desire, will come when the respect is deserved.  And respect is not deserved when you go (21-76) overall and (14-45) in conference over the past 4 years.

[dwebbs]

I don't think Gordon is over rated. And as for the fans, GC brought a ton more to the Post Center than EC has brought to Bennet.

[roy_williams]

gordon got ROLLED by EC. Frankly, I'm gonna have to wait for GC to win a game at McDonald Gym before I ever pick them again to beat EC at home (5 years and counting).

gordon would have had to shoot 80% to win that game. they were an atrocity of epic proportions. they let the EC post get the ball basically 2 feet from the hoop every time, they got back door screened to death, and had poor help defense. it was ugly. on offense they settled for one and done almost every time in the first half, without even a blue shirt underneath. in hindsight i guess we could have seen this coming, as Gordon has won most of its games this season with defense. And last night their D let me down. Their offense has been sluggish at best thus far.

all that being said, the kids on Gordon have alot of heat and a strong work ethic. Coach Schauer and Co will get them back on track, and i'm not too worried about the rest of the season.

nemanja is battling an ankle injury. he was limited in what we could do, which actually hurt the Scots because he wasn't on the court that much and is such a bad defender.  he did nothing at best in this game. strangely, he brought the ball up multiple times and the Scots didn't even pressure him or try and trap. EC will not get away with that against most teams. Ellis looks like he is having trouble adjusting to the new EC offensive scheme. He is playing as a shell of himself. George seems to be struggling in a way that Herr of GC is, as  I think both are trying to find out how to assimilate into being the #1 option on their teams. George also got into a heated exchange with his coach while trying to inbound the ball. He looks frustrated, as he was complaining all night.

I'm surprised no one has talked about EC's freshman Joey Burgos. He is raw, but is the most athletic player in the CCC North. I would say only Lamb is more of an athlete. This kid can jump out the gym and was flying over would be rebounders. He also exhibited good body control on the glass and around the basket; he is not just a go-go gadget out of control type player. I look for big things in the future from him.

finally i agree with Maq, besides Endicott dunking in the lay-up lines, neither team came out with alot of intensity. It wasn't until our friend Gary entered, and sparked EC's mini 12-0 run, that EC took control as Gordon could not get up to match their intensity the rest of the way out.

EC's new uni's were terrifying.