MBB: Conference of New England

[Trueball38]

you know what you are so right and I agree with you on that.  there's no argeument there I just hope he does get things together because to waste talent like that would be a shame, but some sources tell me that half the Curry team won't be playing against Anna Maria due to suspension don't know why but this is his chance to step up and really help the team Good Point Hoops Fan it is an team thing.

[MLamont1214]

Hoops fan is right, but I ask myself this why was James Bartelle even mentioned in the first place, curry won that day, any teams goal is to win, it's not about individual and their stats. But from what I'm reading how do you know so much about James Bartelle, from scholarship offers, charges being dismissed, to summer activities. Then on top of that to complain about how many minutes he's getting and then to say most of their players will not be playing Saturday. I think college expert just revealed he his James Bartelle. But that's not important, I just don't think you should be complaining because things shouldn't just be handed out to any player and then to brag about comments made about you or "so called" college offers. Hope Coach Wynn is checking the posts!

[AJ]

Just because collegeexpert72 knows alot about Bartelle and Curry doesn't mean he is actually Bartelle.  Teamates, alumni, and friends of Bartelle could also have known this information.  Is there a chance that collegeexpert72 is actually posting about himself? sure there is, but I think we have to give posters the benefit of the doubt till its known for sure.

[buddy]

I agree with HoopsFan & whoever else said that Coach Wynn is a well established, good coach.  I want CollegeExpert72 to give us more insights as to how he knows about the Curry suspensions. Doesn't this stuff belong "in house"?

[Trueball38]

well for one I know his High School Coach, and very close friends of his Mentor  Al MCclain the all-time leading scorer at UNH.  I know the kid personally to and he is a great kid, and has great pontential, and he can help this team greatly.  I'm the one who suggested to him to go to curry because I used to play there myself, and I know alot of people there and I know what's going on with everyteam at Curry not just the Basketball team.  as for the Suspensions I can't tell you what it was for because it is in house but the suspensions are already known to most schools.  Also lamont I don't knock you for thinking I was him but I don't say anything when all that is mentioned on here is Andrew St. clair or Gordon College or whatever i'm giving respect to where it's due and he hasn't gained yours yet like he has alot of people aorund the City but you will Respect him at the end of this season mark my words.

[AJ]

Gordon 69 - CSC 51

St. Claire had 20 and 8 for CSC.  Herr had 15 and 6 and Kaufman had 16 and 6 for Gordon.  St. Claire had no help tonight, no else on CSC scored in double figures.  Best game I've seen this year from Gordon, well rounded contributions from the whole team. 

[Maq Diesel]

I was at the GC Colby game tonight and I have to say Gordon looked pretty good.  The final score was 69-51 Gordon.  GC out-played, out-shot and out-coached CSC tonight.  Colby just looked bad, they shot horribly and defended even worse.  St. Clair played well and finished with 20 and 8 including 4 offensive rebounds, but was under utilized.  He had a couple shots blocked by GC defenders, though when he had the ball on the block they had a tough time stopping him.  Personally I feel bad for him he is a great player and a class act and CSC doesn't deserve him, they don't get him the ball and I don't think they know that they have in him.  Foti must be losing his mind he look dazed all night and made some odd descisions such as having St. Clair on the bench for 14 minuets, including sitting him down when CSC trailed by 11 with 7 or so minuets left with the game slipping away.  St. Clair is their team and after watching tonight I am convinced they don't know it.

As for GC they were lead by Kaufman with 16pts, 6rebs and 4ast and Herr who had 15, 6 and 3.  It was a good team effort and a solid shooting night for GC.  This win is big for them especially when you think they did it with out a starter (Shnakenberg) and a key reserve (Mark Beebe) both out with minor injuries.  GC looked good and it will be fun to see how the fair when Endicott comes to town on January 31st.

[24/7/365]

While St. Clair was the only thing CSC had going tonight, his final stats were buffered by the fact that 6 of those points and 3 of those boards came when GC had already stretched their lead to 15+.  They were garbage stats.  Why do we all feel as though we need to build this kid up, even when he has a bad game like he did tonight?  Yes he was pre-season 3rd Team All-American.  But is there a rule that says we can't be critical of them?  I think not. 

This was not the same CSC team that has been the dominate figure head of the CSC in years past.  They fought just to stay close, and when that was no longer a possible, they, including Foti, mailed in the final 5 minutes of the game.  As a spectator, I was very, very, disappointed in CSC's effort tonight.  I was hoping they would have some pride and play until the final whistle.

That being said GC was on fire, in every facet.  With Marstaller going down early b/c of fouls, soph. Marino came in in a huge way and did as good as anyone has against St. Clair.  He had at least 3 blocks on the kid, not to mention 2 or 3 steals.  Put that with the 3pt shooting of Beebe, Herr and Kauffman, and CSC was done before they stepped foot on the court in the 2nd half.

It will still be interesting to see how GC performs at CSC.  As we are all aware, CSC's home is anything but a cake walk.  Very few live to tell the tail.

[john]

to 24/7/365........... does that mean the rest of his stats were because he took gc to school without any team around him?

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

GC 69 CSC 51.  I was thinking something like this might happen.  I'm now starting to wonder if Foti is just trying to get fired.  It's just not fair the way St Clair is ending his career.  He certainly won't be an all-american come the end of the year, when it really counts and that's sad.  His 20 and 8 was already mentioned.  Bray had 4 assists and 3 steals.  Kauffman had 16 and 6 with 4 assists and 3 steals.  Herr had 15 and Logan had 10.  Gordon shot 10-21 from three (nearly 50%).  CSC didn't hit any, not one, 0-11.  There were barely any free throws.  Gordon forced 18 turnovers from CSC and hung tough on the boards.  Let's recap our uncharacteristic stats for CSC: poor rebounding, poor three pt shooting, poor ballhandling, poor perimeter defense and selfish play.  You know the talent is there because they are in some of these games (albeit, not last night's).  I really have to assume Foti doesn't care anymore.  He would have been on these guys and this would never have happened in previous years.

NEC loses a close one to Johnson State 67-70.  I'm not sure either of these schools posts box scores anywhere.  Tough home loss for NEC; they probably should have won this one.  They needed it if they wanted to try and stay at .500 for the year.

NC 81 SRU 72  Now this one totally throws me.  Nichols lost at home to Salve by 17 last week and now this... very strange.  Salve gave up double digit leads in both halves.  Butler had 16 points.  Vallee had 16 also, along with 8 assists and 6 steals.  Lewis had 14 and Mercer had 12.  For Salve, Coute had 14, Woodworth had 19 and continues to give Todd Doyle a run for Rookie of the Year, Grendal had 13 and 9.   Nichols didn't shoot well from three, but Salve was over 50% (currently 10th in the country at 43.9%).  Nichols got to the line three times for than Salve and that, along with a very wide rebound margin, seemed to have evened things out.  I have to believe that no one is in control of the South anymore and even ENC has a chance to get the #4 spot with a timely win or two.

Speaking of ENC, they lost a close one to Worcester State in Worcester 49-51.  ENC just can't seem to win the close ones (or really any at all).  ENC had a halftime lead of nine, but blew it in the end and couldn't get it done.  FT's were even; ENC shot well from outside, but WSC kept pounding the ball into the paint and had success.  Noel had 15 for the Crusaders and Jasmin had 14.  ENC has played a lot better since the break.  They played tough in the Gordon game, but as we saw last night, GC is lights out right now.  I guess ENC decided they didn't want to be a laughingstock.

RWU over AMC 73-64.  I can't mind stats anywhere yet.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Just an update on where the CCC players and teams stand nationally:

McManus (UNE)
t32nd in 3pt fg made per game with 3.3
8th in 3pt fg% with 50.8

Grendal (SRU)
t26th in rebounds per game with 10.0

Stickney (UNE)
t26th in rebounds per game with 10.0
t34th in blocks per game with 2.1

St. Clair (CSC)
t38th in rebounds per game with 9.7

Onyechi (NEC)
41st in rebounds per game with 9.6
t39th in blocks per game with 2.0

Sylvia (NEC)
50th in rebounds per game with 9.4

Mercer (NC)
t49th in assists per game with 5.1

Marstaller (GC)
18th in blocks per game with 2.5

Montrond (UNE)
t2nd in steals per game with 4.0

Endicott
15th in scoring defense allowing 60.6 points per game
33rd in FG% defense allowing 39.1%
t38th in FT% with 73.3%

Curry
42nd in scoring defense allowing 62.7 points per game

Salve Regina
t46th in scoring defense allowing 62.9 points per game
10th in 3pt FG% with 43.4%
t46th in rebound margin with +6.6 rebounds per game

Wentworth
t47th in scoring margin with +11.0 points per game
43rd in FT% with 73.2%

New England College
25th in FG% defense allowing 38.6%



A lot of these will change as more conference games are played, but not a single CCC player is averaging 20 points per game, sad.

[akirk]

I do not understand how everyone is saying that Gordon played a great game last night.  I am the biggest GC fan and I must say it was very sloppy.  To many turnovers, bad decisions, basicly it looked to much like a high school game.  Yes they won but if they play like that against EC they will loose by 40 next time.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

It might have been sloppy, but they did things that they don't normally do against CSC, including sticking with them in rebounding.  Granted, CSC may have quit on the season already, but still a win by that margin was not expected.  Maybe it could have been more, but it was a great game compared to previous years.  I hope GC is capable of better, but that doesn't diminish what they accomplished last night.

[24/7/365]

"Took GC to school" puh-lease.  What a joke!  The Saint's 20 points is in now way indicative of the way he played.  As mentioned earlier, the majority of those stats came when the game no longer mattered, and Coach Schauer for GC, was gettn' his younger guys minutes.  The Saint was as much of a factor as the GC Women's Softball team selling concessions out in the lobby.

The Saint is a great player.  No one argues that point.  However, even the best players in the world struggle from time to time.  So to assume that a kid, who is in a lower tear D3 conference, will struggle as well is not a far fetched idea.  But I'll tell you what doesn't help, that "supporting" cast around him.  They were horrific.  If it weren't for Truncellito's defense, the GC faithful would have started the "warm-up the bus" chant after the 1st half.

[akirk]

24/7/365 

I don't know what you where watching but most of Andrew St. Clair's points came early in the second half when CSC closed the gap to 2.  If CSC gave him the ball at all in the first half the game would have been much different.  Again, I am happy the GC won but you can just go around posting up with tainted views.  ST. Clair scored 10 points in the first 6 minutes of the second half.  And also, the extended bench didn't play that much.  GC only played there normal 7-8 guys except for the freshman DeLuca who has put two great games together off the bench.  I can't stand when people pump up there team more then it should be.  You need to be a little more careful with your outlandish remarks.  This was not a good game for GC at all.  They should have won by 30+ but sloppy play diminished the performance.  Of the 40 minutes GC only really played for about 23 minutes of decent ball.

I am as much of a Homer as the next one but be more realistic.