MBB: Conference of New England

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Just a word on Bartelle, he had a grade change that came through to allow him to play.  I know no other details and it still seems fishy to me, but whatever.  Nobody cares about the CCC but us.

[24/7/365]

Although the Bartelle re-entry reeks of scandal, it only helps the CCC in terms of "high-profile" players.  No one could ever knock Bartelle as just an average player.  He brings a lot of notoriety with him, as well as some much needed respect for this conference.  Unfortunately it took him this long to get going this year.  Maybe next season, assuming he studies, he will be a bigger contributor to his team and the league.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Honestly, right or not, Curry should be better next year without Lamb.  I think they should have been better with him, but the bottom line is, Bartelle has not played as well nor as well with the rest of the team, when Lamb is suited up.  Curry will be losing no one, but Lamb, who they did quite well with in the first semester.  It's dumb and it shouldn't be that way, but I think the CC team, with the current personnel will function better next year.

[akirk]

As I have said before.  The only game that really matters for GC the rest of the season is the CC game.  Yes winning at CSC is important but if they cant win against CC then the rest doesn't matter at all.  All the other games should be wins without question.  Let the last two weeks be filled with exciting results.

[Maq Diesel]

Yeah after a little visit to Curry.edu I was able to find out that they do indeed have a J-term so Bartelle may have been able to bring his GPA back up.  Still fishy, but at least there is a viable excuse.

[MLamont1214]

Have to give Bartelle alot of credit last night, made some big shots to set the tone. Last nights game showed that Curry played real well together. Curry's defense sealed the deal. I was surprised to see Curry in the 2-3 and Lamb not starting, but CC's big man did well filling in Lambs shoes til he came in. Although it was a close game, still not dissappointed with CC's efforts. Look forward to attending tomorrow's game.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Were you there Lamont?  I heard rumor Lamb is hurting, which was the reason for beginning on the bench.  Any indication of that?

[roy_williams]

i dont see how you can say Saturday's game isn't the biggest left for Gordon. if they can't find a way to win, then they will have to rely on CSC beating EC (setting up tiebreakers of epic proportions) or hope for an EC slip up against someone else which would still leave them in a tie-break with EC, assuming they run the table after Saturday. frankly, not to get into too much coach speak here, but when you are precariously tied for first as Gordon is, the next game on your schedule is always your biggest from here on out, no matter the opponent. Either way, if Gordon beats CSC they put all the pressure squarely on EC to win when they visit New London, plus all but mathematically eliminate CSC from catching them in the standings. the game is HUGE.

logan is back for the scots. dap needs to be given to vogelzang and kaufman who really stepped up in the absence. also,  the captain jon beebe, mr intangible, was very instrumental in guiding the scots during mr. logan's injury, providing senior leadership and smart decisions at the guard spot.

the curry "scandal" is interesting and makes for good fodder (GC 6th man please start preparing--dont forget Lamb's d1 exploits either--be creative now), but unless steve nelson gets tom brady to suit up, its a three horse race at best, and none of those teams play in the south. so really lets just let collegeexpert weigh in. wasn't bartelle good friends with barros? maybe he tutored him. he is of course a BC grad. they do things at the heights.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

all but mathematically eliminate CSC from catching them in the standings. the game is HUGE.

Yeah, no first place team has ever lost home court becuase of a loss to a non-playoff squad at the end of the year.  There's a lot more basketball to be played.

As much as I understand the logic behind saying CC is the biggest game (a slip-up there would really hurt them), beating CSC in New London is probably something GC has to do to be considered "legit."

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

AMC hosts Thomas
EC @ NC
NEC @ CC
ENC @ RWU
SRU @ WIT
GC @ CSC

[akirk]

The reason why tomorrow's game is not the biggest game left for GC is because it will mean nothing if they don't beat CC.  That is the only other game on the schedule that will be a difficult win for them (other than CSC).   Look at it this way.  EC has the pressure on not matter who wins tomorrow.  

CSC should win the rest of their games (GC & EC games are tough game but at home - Curry away)
GC should follow suit (CSC away & Curry Home.)  
Now look at EC remanding tough games (Curry and Roger Williams at home - CSC away)

I think that CSC will win out, GC will only loose to CSC and EC looses to CSC also.  This would result in a three way tie giving GC the #1 seed due to out of conference record.  Both CSC and EC have more loses than GC.  I think it would end up coming down to the forth or fifth tiebreaker.

Don't get me wrong.  If GC wins tomorrow than GC has a great chance to win out but it may still come down to that last game against CC to clinch the CCC North Regular Season Championship.  It would be truly impressive if GC could win out and the best chance for the CCC to get two teams in the big dance this year (assuming GC only loose the championship game.)

[TheFence]

I've had this conversation in the Pool C room but If 2 from the CCC get in even if Gordon wins out less the Conference Championship game there's a huge injustice in the system. 

I quess we all know that already.

[akirk]

That's why I said it would be the best chance.  Not that it would happen.

[24/7/365]

Let me first say what everyone is already thinking.  Teams do not "loose" they "lose."  With that clarification lets move on.

If we are to assume GC beats CSC tomorrow, akirks rational places every game for the rest of the season as "the most important game of the year."  The CC game does take on more meaning with Bartelle back, but EVERY game from here on out is just as big as the next.

[roy_williams]

hoops,

i guess i need to clarify. if GC wins tomorrow that leaves GC with 1 conference loss and CSC with 3. it also makes GC 2-0 against CSC, and i believe head to head is the first tiebreaker. thus, see if you can follow, CSC would be 3 games back in the loss column because they have to finish with a better W-L in conference than Gordon, rather than just tie them (because of the head to head records). So, with only 4 remaining games for the Scots after Saturday they would have to have 4 losses to a "non-playoff squad at the end of the year."  That's 0 for 4. And CSC would have to win out just for that 0-4 to matter. so yes, a loss by CSC tomorrow would still mathematically have them breathing to catch GC in the standings, but i promise it won't happen. even with basketball left to be played.