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witfan

Quote from: dr_j on February 07, 2008, 02:08:50 AM
Tab,

It sounds like a good win against a banged up team.

I don't know about banged up, but WIT needs to show-up!  They did play an impressive 10 minutes (1st 5 & last 5).  The WIT bigs had more turnovers than defensive rebounds!  Even a POY with a 29pt night needs some support.  After last year's NCAA visit everybody is coming to the City ready to play.  The City needs to be ready...a rowdy crowd wouldn't hurt.

Too early to panic, but WIT has to be thinking about that playoff spot.  UNE is a contender but so are plenty of other TCCC's,  parity is blurring the early playoff predictions.  I need a map from Miss South Carolina...

CCC Talk

Let's BREAK IT DOWN. Top to bottom: Just one man's opinion.



1. Roger Williams Currently: 7-1 (1st place). Still playing well winning the battle for Rhode Island on the road. They have size and depth and have been making shots.

Games Remaining: UNE at home, AMC at home, at Regis, at Curry, at ENC.

Projected Final Record: 11-2 (W, W, W, L, W over last five)

2. Gordon  Currently: 6-2 (tied for 2nd). I may be the only one not sold on this team. Trigg is making shots and Marstaller is an inside force in this league but I think they rely on too many marginal guys. Also thier love of stats is interesting. I can't wait til bajema joins the 150 steals club or whatever they want to make a big deal of next.

Games Remaining: NC at home, at CSC, at WNEC, at UNE, SRU at home,

Projected Final Record: (9-4) (W, L, L, W, W over last five)

UNE   Currently: 6-2 (tied for 2nd). It's a tradition when you start getting good in this league that one of your players starts posting as a non player, good to see UNE following suit, we've seen it in the past with EC, Curry and WIT. Glad UNE is on board. They're playing with confidence and winning at WIT was big for them.

Games Remaining: at RWU, EC at home, CSC at home, GC at home, at Nichols

Projected Final Record: 7-6 (L, L, L, L, W over last 5)

WNEC  Currently: 6-2 and starting to hit their stride in the league. I think this team is very dangerous and they match up very well with the league's elite.

Games Remaning: at NEC, RC at home, GC at home, at AMC, at CSC

Projected Final Record: 10-3 (W, W, W, W, L) over last 5.

Curry  Currently: 6-2 and very quietly among the top of the league again. They are a tough matchup for just about anyone and very dangerous at home.

Games Remaining: at ENC, SRU at home, at WIT, RWU at home, EC at home,

Projected Final Record: 11-2 (W, W, W, W, W) maybe a little lofty but I don't see them losing at home and WIT could have trouble with them in their own building.

6. Colby-Sawyer Currently: 5-3 and playing well well.  They do not make a habit of losing league games at home.

Games Remaining: SRU at home, Gordon at home, at UNE, at WIT, WNEC at home.

Projected Final Record: 9-4 (W, W, W, L, W) in final 5.

7. Wentworth   Currently 4-4 and yet to prove anything. People that were around last year know they shouldn't nessicarily sleep on them.

Games Remaining: at AMC, NC at home, Curry at home, CSC at home, NEC at home,

Projected Final Record 8-5 (W, W, L, W, W)

Endicott   Currently 4-4 and all over the map. Great efforts against WIT and RWU and awful nights against WNEC and CSC.

Games Remaining: at Regis, at UNE, SRU at home, NEC at home, at Curry

Projected Final Record: 8-5 (W, W, W, W, L)

Salve Regina   Currently: 4-4. This is the team none of the top half want to play down the stretch. They have a brutal schedule though.

Games Remaining: at CSC, at Curry, at EC, ENC home, at GC

Projected Final Record: 5-8 (L, L, L, W, L)

10. Nichols Currently: 3-5 I have no idea what to make of this team. I thought this was the year they took the leap.

Games Remaining: at GC, at WIT, ENC at home, Regis at home, UNE at home,

Projected Final Record: 5-8 (L, L, W, W, L)

11. Anna Maria Currently: 2-6 and playing with some serious youth. Could steal one down the stretch.

Games Remaining: WIT at home, at RWU, at NEC, WNEC at home, at Regis

Projected Final Record: 3-10 (L, L, L, L, W)

Regis Currently 2-6 and I think Nathan Hagar needs serious consideration for Coach Of The Year.

Games Remaining: EC at home, at WNEC, RWU at home, at NC, AMC at home

Projected Final Record: 2-11 (L, L, L, L, L)

13. ENC   Currently 1-7 but heading in the right direction when your only league win is against Gordon.

Games Remaining: Curry at home, at NEC, at NC, at SRU, RWU at home

Projected Final Record: 1-12 (L, L, L, L, L)

14. NEC Currently 0-8. I have to think they are too talented to not get a couple.

Games Remaining: WNEC at home, ENC at home, AMC at home, at EC, at WIT

Projected Final Record 2-11 (L, W, W, L, L)


That's how one man sees it unfolding that would leave you with final standings of this:

1. Curry (11-2) (holds tie break with RWU)
2. RWU (11-2)
3. WNEC (10-3)
4. Colby-Sawyer (9-4) (holds tie break with GC)
5. Gordon (9-4)
6. Endicott (8-5) (holds tie break with WIT)
7. Wentworth (8-5)
8. UNE (7-6)
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9. SRU (5-8) (holds tie break with NC)
10. NC (5-8)
11. AMC (3-10)
12. Regis (2-11) (holds tie break with NEC)
13. NEC (2-11)
14. ENC (1-13)

That would leave you with the following first round games:

#8 UNE at #1 Curry

#5 Gordon at #4 Colby-Sawyer

#6 Endicott at #3 WNEC

#7 WIT at #2 RWU

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While I'm making predictions might as well go on record with all of these:

Player Of The Year Tim Jones - Curry
Rookie Of The Year (assuming the transfers at UNE don't count I can't remember a transfer ever getting it) Garret Bishop NC
Coach Of The Year Nathan Hagar Regis

First Team ALL TCCC

Tim Jones Curry
Sherrad Prezzie-Blue WIT
Jon Bowers Curry
Jakyri Simpson UNE
Ryan Jaziri NEC

Second Team All TCCC

Jon Marstaller Gordon
Aaron Trigg Gordon
Duncan Szeliga CSC
Kyle Fredette WNEC
Justin Woodworth SRU

Honorable Mention

Geoff Barranger RWU
Jonnie Jefferson UNE
Dave Rosso CSC
Justin Kaufman GC
Kingsley Oneychi NEC









backboard

Very impressive CCC Talk.  According to you we're in for another Wentworth-Roger Williams playoff game.  Not sure if Wentworth would like that more or would RWU dread it more?  Gordon fans aren't going to be happy that they don't get any First Team love

witfan

Ask for a map and one is provided!  Thank you CCC Talk.

I have some minor issues with the picks, (e.g., I don't see any team losing 5 consecutive conference games, especially one with a COY candidate, & I do see Doyle stepping-up to make some noise),... otherwise Miss S.C. would be proud!

Put_It_On_My_Tab

CCC Talk.....your name is spot on.  A lot of talk....nonsense talk.  Do you want my phone number?  Not a player so get over it.  A fan of UNE who is here to give deserved credit when it is warranted.  Honorable mention for Jefferson is amusing.  So now that your theory is shot down we can get back to talking basketball.  We do however appreciate your expertise in conference breakdown.

Father of Tab

broke_ya_ankles

very nice ccc talk, just for arguments sake I'll throw another mans opinion into the mix:  (and big thanks for saving me the time of going through each teams remaining schedule haha):

1.  Roger Williams-  Top of the league for right now and playing well, but not great, in 4 wins vs NC, WIT, SRU, and CSC they won by a TOTAL of 15 points.  Against middle and bottom CCC teams they have to do better than that, these squeak out wins wont last for much longer.   What is in their favor is remaining schedule, Curry will be a battle of the 6'10 boys and UNE could be a hassle other than that theyve got 3 cupcakes, I say they lose to Curry and win the rest.  Final Record:  11-2

2.  Curry-  This team is on a roll as well 6-1 over their last 7.  Very difficult schedule from here out, I fully expect them to stumble at some point but they could certainly win out.  They win their next 4 and lose the season finale to Endicott.  Final Record:  10-3

3.   Gordon-  Back 2 Back out of conference losses makes this team on a bit of a skid, although I fully expect them to bounce back and win some conference games.  WNEC will be a hiccup for them away so:  Final Record 10-3

4.  University of New England-  Can we say surprise!?! Simpson and Jefferson are capable of leading this team to a win over any conference foe night in and night out but they face the most brutal remaining schedule, that being said...Final Record:  9-4

5.  Western New England-  This appears to be a grind it out team with a very favorable remaining schedule, Gordon will be a game to watch but I think WNEC wins it @ home, they win out for the season and enter the playoffs tied at the top...Final Record:  11-2

6.  Colby-Sawyer-  As CCC talk mentioned they are playing well right now, most recently giving Endicott a royal whopping but theyve got tough game after tough game lined up for the rest of the season, Salve will be a win but from there I dont see the chargers winning a single game.  Final Record:  6-7

7.  Wentworth-  probably better than a typical 4-4 team but they arent up to par with the elite of the league.   Easy schedule bodes well for them with their only loss remaining coming by way of Curry, strong finish gives them a Final Record of:  8-5

8.  Endicott-  Never know which EC team will show up, inconsistency will kill them they go 3-2 the rest of the way...Final Record:  7-6

9.  Salve-  surprising they have clawed their way to .500 to this point but their schedule is anything but favorable from here 4-4 quickly disappears... Final Record:  5-8

10.  Nichols-  Surprisingly beat endicott earlier this year but that was nothing short of a fluke, this team I cant see them finishing very strong.  Final Record:  5-8

11.  Anna Maria-  Dangerous but in a very baby tiger sort of way, they'll pull out one more.  Final Record: 3-10

12.  Regis-  Very impressed to see this team with more than just 3 or 4 overall wins this season, the CCC has proven to be a struggle for them but hey at least they got a couple, and this team is crazy young could be battling for the top within 3 years... Final Record:  2-11

13.  Eastern Nazerene-  After the upset win at Gordon I really expected more, but from what theyve shown since then I cant see them stealing a single victory.  Final Record:  1-12

14.  New England College-  hard to believe a team with 2 of the top players in the conference has yet to win a CCC game this season.  They'll wind up outscoring someone sooner or later pretty good chance ENC and Anna Maria fall victim.  Final Record:  2-11

Final Standings:
1.  Roger Williams  11-2
2.  Western New England  11-2
3.  Gordon 10-3
4.  Curry  10-3
5.  UNE  9-4
6.  Wentworth 8-5
7.  Endicott 7-6
8.  Colby Sawyer 6-7
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9.  Salve 5-8
10. Nichols 5-8
11. Anna Maria 3-10
12. Regis 2-11
13. NEC 2-11
14. Eastern Nazerene  1-12

Looks like we're in complete agreement of the bottom 6 records and all, but that cant be too much of a surprise.  Our top 8 look considerably different though. 
My 1st Round Matchups would look like this:

#8 Colby-Sawyer @ #1 Roger Williams
#5 UNE @ #4 Curry
#6 Wentworth @ #3 Gordon
#7 Endicott @ #2 Western New England

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Individual Honors:

POY:  Tim Jones- Curry
COY:  Michael Tully- Roger Williams
ROY:  Tyler Washington-  Anna Maria

1st Team:
Tim Jones- Curry
Sherrad Prezzie-Blue- Wentworth
Ryan Jaziri- New England College
Jonathan Bowers- Curry
Johnnie Jefferson- University of New England

2nd Team:
Jaykyri Simpson- University of New England
Jon Marstaller- Gordon
Duncan Szeliga- Colby-Sawyer
Aaron Trigg-  Gordon
Kingsley Onyechi- New England College

Honorable Mention:
Jean-Paul Marcellus-  Eastern Nazerene
Justin Woodworth- Salve Regina
Justin Kaufman- Gordon
Kyle Fredette- Western New England
Geoff Baranger- Roger Williams

Put_It_On_My_Tab

"Regis  Currently 2-6 and I think Nathan Hagar needs serious consideration for Coach Of The Year."


Was this a joke?  I hope so. How can a coach who is 2-6 in the conference be considered the COY?  I'm baffled.  Granted it is their first year in the league and he is doing a fine job with his team, but not Coach of the Year.
If you want a serious consideration for COY than take a look at UNE's Jason Mulligan. Did a great job recruiting kids late in the summer and now has them playing winning basketball every night.  Need I mention his team has played and practiced much of the season with a total of 8 or 9 players.  Take that 2-6 and turn it into 6-2 with solid wins over the University of Southern Maine and University of Maine-Farmington.  Maybe I am missing something here on this 2-6 record from Regis, and if I am please enlighten me...but let's be real.

On another note, I don't think that any team that is 0-8 deserves first team and second team All-Conference selections(NEC).  You can make a case for one of them but not two.   

Tab step

scout

Hoops Fan...
where are you in our time of need for unbiased commentary???
"C.J.: They sent me two turkeys. The most photo-friendly of the two gets a Presidential pardon and a full life at a children's zoo. The runner-up gets eaten.
Bartlet: If the Oscars were like that, I'd watch."
- The West Wing, 'Shibboleth'

broke_ya_ankles

first and second team might be a stretch but they will both certainly be recognized.  Jaziri leads the conference in scoring by 3 points a game and Onyechi is 7th in scoring and 5th in rebounds.  Both of their individual efforts have to be rewarded thats why they are individual honors.  POY is more of something that puts more weight on the team having at least marginal success- exactly why neither has a case for POY, if NEC was ohh say 5-3 right now both players would actually have quite a case for the top individual award.  Onyechi might only get Honorable Mention and Jaziri only 2nd team but looking everything over I see them as a first and second team selection. 

Put_It_On_My_Tab

Quote from: scout on February 07, 2008, 04:23:31 PM
Hoops Fan...
where are you in our time of need for unbiased commentary???

You call it biased commentary, while I call it the facts.  It is a matter of winning.
The only thing biased on this board is that it looks like it is going to take a win over UCLA for UNE before people realize they are a very good basketball team.

Tabbit ears


dwebbs

Quote from: Put_It_On_My_Tab on February 07, 2008, 04:45:22 PM

You call it biased commentary, while I call it the facts.  It is a matter of winning.

Well then, in your unbiased opinion, how many points will UNE beat Roger Williams by tomorrow?

Put_It_On_My_Tab

Quote from: dwebbs on February 08, 2008, 11:44:22 AM
Quote from: Put_It_On_My_Tab on February 07, 2008, 04:45:22 PM

You call it biased commentary, while I call it the facts.  It is a matter of winning.

Well then, in your unbiased opinion, how many points will UNE beat Roger Williams by tomorrow?

I have never predicted a UNE win on this board. I have simply stated that there was a good chance that UNE will beat WIT on the road.  Just like I think there is a good chance that UNE wins at Roger Williams tomorrow.  I don't get into the predictions like some others here.  I am here to talk reality, and the reality is that tomorrow has the chance to be a really good game.  Anytime your team has 4 players that are in the top 20 in scoring in the conference...I would say you have a pretty good chance to win. 

Break the bad tabits

une-fan

Right On "Tab"
Coach Mulligan for COY? :o

scout

well ya'll are comin out of the woodwork, huh?

UNE is hot...
one of only a few CCC teams with a winning record...
i'm a fan of the CCC, but to be honest, we're a weak conference...
UNE has only beaten ONE team with a winning record this year, that being WIT this past week...

congrats on having some success this year, and i hope it continues, for parity's sake... (especially against RWU)

but your cred would be a lot stronger with some non-conference wins against successful programs from elsewhere...
"C.J.: They sent me two turkeys. The most photo-friendly of the two gets a Presidential pardon and a full life at a children's zoo. The runner-up gets eaten.
Bartlet: If the Oscars were like that, I'd watch."
- The West Wing, 'Shibboleth'

Jim Rome Of The CCC

*Welcome To The Jungle blares*

...Clones what is up..things are getting testy on the CCC Board and the pimp in the box Van Smack himself is going to have referee yet another skirmish.....

...starting in Henniker...what is going on with the pilgrims. With Ryan "Hibachi" Jaziri and Kinglsey Onyechi in the fold they should be able to throw myself and Jay Stew and T-Rodge in the lineup and be able to win a conference game....are you kidding me?

and what about the Wentworth Leopards. Last year not much expected finish around .500 and blast though the conference tournament. This year all kinds of things expected finish around .500 and do they blast their way through the conference tournament...we'll find out...rack it

..meanwhile down in Rhode Island Rik Smits Barranger and the boys are putting together a big time year the question is the same as it always is for the Hawks....can they finish?

I'd like to be the first to mourn the posting death of the illustrious Hoops Fan...we miss you

*shuffles papers*

I have a huge email here:

"Dear UNE Fans,

we understand you're excited about your team and also about finally having the internet up in there in New Foundland where your school is located

signed

The Rest of The CCC."

That is no doubt to start a border war up in the Northlands. That being said UNE has exactly one quality win so far so maybe they shouldn't be planning their parade yet.